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Sunday, April 8, 2012

Shed Massacre Witnesses: BUSTED! Bashir Mohammed Al-Sedik/Germani / Mohammed Bashir / "Omar"

February 4, 2012
last edits May 17, 2012

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Original content, Feb. 4
Mohammed Bashir, aged 52. For fun, I'll add the notes I just made about him elsewhere. Take note that he is as dark-skinned as the escapees get, among the majority we get to see. He might well have a bit of black African blood in him, but not the gallons shed by the other, unlucky, escapees who look almost like “Gaddafi’s African mercenaries.” Mr.Bashir spoke to the Daily Mirror, with a handy picture (at left - cropped off, to his left, is Ibrahim Omar Zadan).

Bashir's account is strange in a few ways. He describes the shed wrong - a "container," stifling hot, men died from the heat, thin metal walls the soldiers fired through, banging on the walls for water. These walls are lined with cinderblocks, make no banging noise, wouldn't allow bullets, and shielded the inside from the sun's heat. And there's decent ventilation all over the leaky place.

Further, Bashir says he was still hiding in the shed, just minutes after the shooting on the evening of the 23rd, when the fire was started.
…something happened, either his gun was jammed or he ran out of ammunition. He walked away to get another gun and I ran to the other side of the container and hid behind an empty gas canister.

That’s when they poured petrol in and set it alight. They were trying to hide evidence but people were still alive. I could hear them scream."
And smoke was still wafting off the shallow pile of about 50 bodies only, five days after the fire was first set. The Mirror was (almost) all alone reporting as fact that people were burned alive there, by virtue of accepting one "eyewitness" story without checking against any others.

Those screaming people being burned alive in Bashir's tale apparently weren't able to get out the door. So why didn’t they run through the “hole in the wall?” Mohammed did.
"... I could hear them scream. My friends and I ran through a hole in the wall and tried to escape across the compound.”
Only an idiot character in a not-thought-out work of fiction would run across the compound after "running" out the only hole he could mean. You need to see that explanation if you haven't. Out that hole means out of the compound, more or less.

Mr. Bashir is not a reliable witness - he might not have been there on the 23rd at all. He's friends with fellow escapee, the quiet, bearded young Ibrahim Omar Zadan. They vouch for each others' stories of escape, unharmed, from certain death. Despite giving no details I know of to contradict Bashir with, Mr. Zadan is not reliable now. Zadan in turn has been seen [VZH] hugging other "fellow survivors" - the possibly related Moktar Mahmoud Zadam/Zedan, Bashir al-Siddeq/Sedik, etc.

Update, April 2: Mohammed Bashir is Bashir Mohammed
At least two contributors and I agree now that this same physical witness also spoke under another name, giving a different account. One of those seen hugging Zadan (visual ID) is the guy who always looked like Mohammed and apparently is. The name could almost be an honest mix-up - Mohammed Bashir vs. Bashir Mohammed Al-Sedik/Siddeq/Germani. The CBC's video is stretched horizontally a bit, and it seems I didn't correct quite enough here. Here's the imagery, best comparison bottom, center:

Just by visuals and the names, it's a no-brainer really, in a pool this small. Both also specify they escaped via the hole in the wall. I didn't match them earlier because of a less rigorous visual comparison, wanting a big list with lots of entries, and the fact that they give different accounts (stories). Mohammed cited the firethat couldn't have happened, but gave the correct massacre date of "Tuesday" (the 23rd), while Bashir put it on the day before that.  Mohammed also specified he only arrived at the hangar "last week," just a few days prior to the massacre, while Bashir claimed to CBC he'd been there exactly 95 days! (see below, this is interesting)

Note the appearance dates: Unnamed on the 27th in two photos comforting a distraught man who looks possibly related, and in an Arabic language video (truly I don't know if he's unnamed there). He's also on record that day as Mohammed Bashir, with Griffiths' photos carrying the date of the 27th, and showing sunlight suggesting early afternoon. It can be surmised he was in that character that day.

The 28th, it seems, is when he spoke to the CBC's Susan Ormiston,  again in the early afternoon (this is partly from visual clues set beside what we've halfway figured out from other exterior images of the shed). Another photo I have but have been unable to track down the information on also shows this guy on the 28th (cropped on him, at left). The sunlight here suggests a time shortly after Ormiston walked in to speak with Bashir, so he's in that character here.

Therefore, "Mohammed" is "Omar"
The above connection clicked, for me, only after compressing Mr. Al-Sedik into another entry, Physicians for Human Rights Witness dubbed with the pseudonym Omar in their December report (essential reading for scholars of these things). This isn't a name he gave to deceive, but one they selected for him to protect him from, presumably, the phantom loyalists who failed so badly at killing him the first time.

Omar details:
From Az Zawiya, a car-dealer who drives a Mecedes Benz, away in Dubai on business as the protests started. Arrested May 20, held at Yarmouk 95 days. May 20 to the accepted massacre date Aug 23, both days inclusive, is 96 days. Consistently, he cites a massacre on “August 22nd." He smokes cigarettes, which the loyalists stole. “They accused him of giving 225,000 Libya Dinars ($180,000 USD) to the revolutionary forces and of transporting anti-Qaddafi forces to Tunisia.” He was jailed with his nephew, who was apparently released soon after. Two of his cars were stolen and brought there to taunt him. He says guard Mustafa tried to set them all free (after turning down a fat bribe from Omar to do just that)

Bashir al-Siddeq (ph.) Details to CBC:
held there for exactly 95 days, he said, "accused of helping the rebels." The massacre happened "Monday night," the 22nd . He has things in his shirt pockets like packs of cigarettes. Weeps openly recalling the incident. [CBC]

"Bachir Mohammed Sedik" details to Le Matin (French, translated)
Held 95 days, somehow the massacre date comes out as "suddenly, the door opened, Friday, Aug. 26, then grenades were thrown..." He escaped, and "then, hidden behind a wall, he heard the screams, shots, cries for help, before seeing the fire lit."

"Bachir Mohammed Germani" details to someone, re-published in Spanish (translated):
We had been locked up here by the forces of Kadhafi," says Bachir Mohammed Germani. Stopped here three months for helping protesters to flee to Tunisia, the man miraculously escaped the massacre. "Last Tuesday, before retreating, the soldiers of Gaddafi opened the hangar doors. They fired machine guns at the crowd before throwing grenades inside. I was not injured, and got away with ten other people..."
Change of date... again? Here he cites the same usual date as Mohammed did. The details line up quite well, notably both being held exactly 95 days after being accused of helping people flee to Tunisia. It's hard to imagine two people in this relatively small pool of witnesses would share these traits, and quite reasonable to presume they are one and the same person.

To Le Matin, it sounds like, he specified the fire lit that day like Mohammed did, but only seen from a distance. To CBC, he apparently sounded like Mohammed on that - Susan Ormiston explained from someone she talked to that the grenades tossed in were what started the men on fire.

Otherwise, Omar was clearly an echo of the Bashir character, as opposed to the Mohammed character, except where those blur together. But he was also a different character with a different story. He's being quite clear between the accounts that he's the same guy the CBC and others talked to. He's clarified by saying Tuesday, and the 22nd, and giving his arrest date plus exact number of days there, that he was nearly killed on the wrong day. It's triple confirmed by him. (PHR simply ignored his date info, by the way, printing it but otherwise specifying the 23rd, as if that was unanimous).

In all versions, he was not injured. Like so many others, protected somehow on all sides from the automatic gunfire and bursting grenades. Physicians for Human Rights made a point of examining any injuries. But they gave only a psychological examination of Omar, focusing on his frequent sobbing when recalling the incident.

But Omar Has A Different Escape Story
But the end of the story differs greatly between Omar and Bashir, forcing separate entries as two distinct fake characters, as opposed to the usual one.

The CBC heard from Bashir that “when they went to re-load their guns, he crawled over bodies to a hole in the wall, and in the chaos, escaped.” [CBC] He sounds arguably like Mohammed here, except in  not clearly mentioning fire, in the snippets we're shown. But as noted, the idea of people being burned to death carried through.

PHR heard that Omar “hid behind some tires and farm equipment. When there was a pause in the shooting, detainees rushed the door and ran in all directions. Some were shot dead while others, like Omar, managed to escape safely by scaling the wall of the compound.” The difference is not hard to spot.

Luckily, this conformed with the only other PHR witness who saw and took part in the escape. "Mohammad" (also from Zawiya, also a pseudonym) agreed with Omar quite a bit. Both specify that a heroic guard named Mustafa tried to set them free, unlocked the doors, and told them to wait 30 minutes. Both specify they were discovered before that time was up, and agree on the massacre that followed, generally.

Both of them said the detainees rushed the doors, and Mohammad gave great detail. As PHR related: “At one point one of the soldiers’ weapons jammed, and one of the detainees picked up a metal object and threw it at the soldier while he ran out of the warehouse." But then the gun un-jammed and he was martyred, but not in vain - Mohammad saw another prisoner “grab a fire extinguisher and, while running past the soldier, create a cloud of smoke so he could safely escape.” He was followed by others who used the smoke screen and scattered. Mohammad was in no rush, and wanted to see the others out. He was one of the last two to leave, he told PHR. He and his unidentified companion ran “toward the back compound wall where the trucks with the shells” were parked and, like Omar, climbed up to the top of a wall, and then were home free.

So these two witnesses, while still disagreeing on the date, now agree on this dramatic manner of escape right out the main door. This happened without even waiting for the soldiers to leave like many others say, going to reload and finish killing the dead prisoners who couldn't run, apparently leaving the door unlocked for more than 50 prisoners to run out of unharmed. On this strong point of agreement, Omar and Mohammad contradict everyone else, including Omar himself when he was both Mohammed and when he was Bashir. The rest all agree on about five other ways out (besides many who don't specify or don't remember). Of the dozens of accounts available, none but this team of two that spoke to PHR says prisoners rushed the doors while guards were there and fought past them.

Therefore...
After I explained this all, briefly, to a friend, he asked an apt question. Apparently doubting my characterization, he said something like: "Really? What the hell, how does he think he'd get away with that?" I just chuckled, said something like "he's got a lot of help."

It's funny in a black-humor way that of all the witnesses we can recognize, it was Bashir/Mohammed/Omar that was (apparently) selected by Dr. al-Farjani, our other transparent faker, to sit in on the meeting he held with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon on November 2 (see the video-he's at the far left in the video still).

And the witch-hunt against Gaddafi loyalists NAMED by fakers like this continues, the massacrers NAMED by their attempted victims like this, being detained, disappearing, tortured to death in the ongoing purge Free Libya has decided to require. Truth optional. Better yet, not allowed. Main thing is, the takeover is rolling ahead splendidly.

Update May 2: Our subject also spoke to Al Jazeera English and Bashir Al-Germani/Jamani (phoenetic). That was August 28, not aired until their fancy docu in December (see here-he's at 39:18 or so). More recently, apparently in early March, he was called to speak with BBC Arabic reporter and fellow Yarmouk shed prisoner Feras Kilani, for a documentary on "Libya's torture farms." This I'm waiting to be able to see, but all the available previews anyway are discussed here. More to come.

Anywhere in the above mentioned accounts, did "Bashir al-Sadeq" mention his brother, a sheikh, who was locked up there with him, and shot dead by guard Ibrahim Tajouri? No? Well, he must've forgot until March, but he's telling Kilani about that now. And guess what, another Az Zawiyah escapee, Hussein Al-Lafi, corroborates him on the little detail of this one particular guard who stood out as the machine gunner who singlehandedly killed dozens with nearly four clips of ammo.  Getting "witnesses"in Zawiyah to agree on specific things: wow, impressive.

Update May 17: That was a mix-up. Hussein Al-Lafi said Mohammed Allafi was his brother, after Bashir named him. Sheikh means respected and elder (actually Bashir's same age, 52). Sorted out at the above link, and there's a video now for our subject and more. It's great:

Further, I finally looked up name meanings, always relevant when looking at fakers.
Bashir/Bashar: Bringer of glad tidings or happy news: http://www.islamic-dictionary.com/index.php?word=bashar
Mohammed: of course reference to the prophet, not sure what special meaning aside from Muslim
Sadeq/Sadiq:  truthful, real http://www.islamic-dictionary.com/index.php?word=sadiq
Jamani/Germani: Nothing came up.

So his name says to the rebels who approved his performances "good news! I'm here to tell your truth as an honest Muslim man who's keeping it real!" Perfect.


33 comments:

  1. some other witnesses :

    One survivor, 50-year-old ABDULLAH SALIM AL-DWEEB was among about 20 people who were released before the killings.

    The Libyan Society of the Missing says that 106 prisoners were killed in the building on August 23 when Gadhafi loyalists threw grenades inside.


    After the visit, a spokesman for the court, Islam Shalabi, said Moreno-Ocampo believed "the site merits investigation."
    http://azstarnet.com/news/world/prosecutor-views-site-of-mass-killing-near-tripoli/article_5886a7c3-b548-59c2-b134-9ba3eba70663.html

    http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/MontrealHome/20110828/gadhafi-forces-detainee-statement-110828/
    New survivor : Abdul hamid sanussi

    Old detainee :chris cobb

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  2. In the Guardian , 23 Nov ,where the AP story seemed to surface about Al-Dweeb and Al Shwedi, Vanessa Gera is the author.

    Note the blue prison truck parked outside the shed in the Janis Mackey Frayer CTV video, as also in the Alex Thomson one. Her video is made much later in the morning than Thomson's Channel 4 video.

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  3. There is a discussion going on here on the identities of PRH's Omar, Bashir, Bashir and Bashir. I am not sure, if it should be moved here.

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  4. Two important finds thank's to video links by Hurriya.

    1) Mohammed Bashir is the same man as Bashir el-Sedik and most likely PHR's "Omar."
    2) Mohammed Bashir was at the shed site on both August 27th and 28th.

    In this video from August 28th he speaks to Susan Ormiston and is clearly referred to as Bashir el-Sedik.

    Libyan massacre site
    Charred bodies were discovered in a Tripoli warehouse in an apparent mass execution by pro-Gadhafi forces, Susan Ormiston reports.
    Date: 29/08/11 Views: 3797


    This video on YouTube shows him with Moktar Mahmoud Zedan on August 27th.

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    What is still open is the identity of the guy looking very much like he could be the brother of Bashir. I understand he was thought to be Bashir el-Sedik. He was photographed grieving on the site by Benjamin Lowy (also 6/9 in this set) and later seen congratulated by Dr. Salim for his great performance.

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    1. @Petri -we know that the Zlitenhorra/123AlgerieNew video was filmed mid afternoon on 27 Aug from: blue prison van parked on west side. and water tanker parked next to telescopic mobile yellow boom crane. The red writing on the shed door and covering up "Moammar" has already been carried out.
      [Incidentally photo no 5 in the Chinese set above shows the bespectacled younger academic looking man with thinning curly hair. Who took it? ]
      The time of day and vehicle arrangement is similar to that obtaining at 1.13 in the second Sky broadcast
      When Bashir breaks down in the Susan Ormiston video, it doesn't seem genuine to me.

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    2. Sorry, I may have been wrong about the Moktar Mahmoud Zedan video from August 27th. The guy with him on the video at 2m 23s is Ibrahim Omar Zadan. Adam says here, that he also spotted Bashir el-Sedik/Siddeq on the video. I have to look more carefully.

      Anyway, Ibrahim Omar Zadan is the person that appears with Mohammed Bashir in the photo by Rowan Griffiths that now illustrates this article. Either he or Bashir was there on both days.

      The source of the photo is this Mirror article, that identifies the two men as Mohammed Bashir and Ibrahim Omar Zadan.
      Libya: rebels imprisoned in baking shed before being gunned down and burned alive

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      I have been wondering if there is photographic evidence for the blue prison transport van in its original location before it is towed to the spot in front of the shed. It is seen on the Moktar Mahmoud Zedan video.

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    3. Found him: Mohammed Bashir comes into view at 5m 19s on the video, evidently pointing to and making remarks about the blue prisoner transport van.

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    4. I wondered if it was A.I. Bashir, a son or something to Mohammed. Now I hear Omar/Sedik says he had a nephew was detained briefly with him. I'm pretty sure one of the photos (at the coach salem post) shows Bashir himself among those embracing this guy on the 27th.

      Guess work and speculation. Otherwise, we've caught him (apparently) acting and getting recognized for it.

      Cool video, better resolution, posted on the 27th.

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  5. Here is another version of the story by Martin Fricker, this one form the Daily Record.

    Hell on earth in chamber of horrors where regime thugs burned their captives alive

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  6. There is a number of photos of Mohammed Bashir and Ibrahim Omar Zadan in this set of photos by Rowan Griffiths:
    Gaddafi Overthrow

    All the photos are marked as August 27th. Could be.

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    1. @Petri , the link to Overthrow doesn't bring any photos up.

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    2. Same result. Found traces in a Google search, small thumbnails. Bigger images would help-it'sphotos of the guy AS M.B. that we're short on. As Al-Sedik he's all over.
      one image
      another
      The third is the same at the article, and I don't see any others.

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  7. At 1.15-1.30 in the Zlitenhorra video, the young man in white t-shirt pointing his finger accusingly at the camera also appears in the background of the 27 August Ron Haviv photo

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    1. And also in another Ron Haviv photo, 00109569

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    2. This Ron Haviv photo, 00109197 showing Mohammed Bashir embracing someone who could be Ibrahim Omar Zadan is taken quite early on August 27th. The red fire extinguisher is still in its upright position.

      The photo where he emerges from the shed followed by a blond woman and with a camera stand in front of the door must be from early afternoon on August 28th. It could be right after filming inside with Susan Ormiston for CBC.

      Mohammed Bashir is using the same gray pyjama-style suit on both days.

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    3. Interesting, that the Ron Haviv photo, 00109197 is taken at the exact same moment as the Newscom stock photo mrpphotos298364

      Stock Photos - Gaddafi Overthrow Libya.
      Mohammed Bashir and Ibrahim Omar Zadan embrace outside the compound they escaped from before the masacre at the compound behind the Al-Jarmouk military base, Tripoli, Libya. 27th August 2011 ABC0811 Photo via Newscom

      There must have been quite a crowd of photographers recording this embrace. I say it is staged for the show!

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  8. @Adam - the photo of "Omar", aka Bashir, emerging from the shed was taken by Derek Stoffel who accompanied Susan Ormiston. See Libya massacre site discovered near Tripoli

    "It is the most grisly sight," the CBC's Susan Ormiston reported on Sunday [28th] from Tripoli after she and CBC reporter Derek Stoffel visited the building south of the capital.

    There are two other photos on that page.

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    1. Thanks, I have seen those. Should have followed the CBC lead, if I were more serious about it. Must be from a different posting at higher resolution than there, but whatever.

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    2. Tweets of Derek Stoffel, 28 August...
      28 Aug Derek Stoffel ‏ @DerekStoffelCBC

      My ghastly visit to the scene of suspected massacre in Tripoli: http://bit.ly/oxstVN #Libya

      The stench inside warehouse was awful. Another alleged example of atrocities on both sides as the war came to Tripoli. #Libya


      Man held prisoner and escaped warehouse tells me pro-Gadhafi soldiers shot some of the prisoners then torched buildings as rebels approached

      1 of the worst things I've ever seen as a journo: this warehouse was torched. Inside about 30 badly charred bo… (cont) http://deck.ly/~644Bq

      More damage at Camp 32: barracks hit in likely NATO airstrike. http://twitpic.com/6cmwq1

      Visited Libyan Army camp #32, south of #Tripoli. This hanger destroyed - likely by #NATO airstrike. http://twitpic.com/6cms7u

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    3. @Adam - the high resolution photo of faker Bashir is on Derek Stoffel's twitpic stream , http://twitpic.com/6cmytc (not linked directly in his tweets, but)

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  9. @ 39.09 bashir [sadiq] aljamani 39.41

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YwenAKDDHo


    @ 0.20 yarmouk
    @ 39.18 matress, just soaked with blood

    @ 39.09 bashir [sadiq] aljamani 39.41

    who is the UK freak @ 42.52
    @ 46.04 yarmouk
    who is the UK freak @ 46.18 / berber @ 47.16

    moonbeam productions :
    The documentary also explores how Libyans grouped Britain among these inner-circle defectors,
    http://realscreen.com/2011/12/14/al-jazeera-wraps-up-gaddafi-doc-series/#ixzz1rKDuUYeD

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    1. Land Destroyer ‏ @LandDestroyer
      Qatari govt propaganda "Gaddafi: The Endgame - State of Denial" created by Al Jazeera AND Moonbeam Films UK-makes propaganda for BBC as well
      Qatari propagandists at #AJE rewrite the story of #Libya 's destruction http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YwenAKDDHo admit rebels were working w/Brits for years
      #Qatar govt #AJE propaganda rewriting history re: #Libya http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YwenAKDDHo for truth, read here http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/search/label/Libya

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    2. the cold thin-faced man with grey hair and stiff upper lip who appears throughout is Major General Robin Searby. See my comment here and quote: The paper said one secret document showed that Robin Searby, Blair's defence co-ordinator on Libya, had sent a confidential invitation in 2006 for Khamis and Saadi Gaddafi to watch "VIP demonstrations" of the SAS and its sister regiment, the Special Boat Service (SBS).

      "There can be no publicity at all connected with this visit, either here or in Libya," it quoted Searby as writing in the letter, found in Saadi Gaddafi's abandoned office in the Libyan capital.
      Searby (company Arturus) also mentioned in this article, How Britain courted, armed and trained a Libyan monster
      executive outcomes... was it a set-up? Or were the Gaddafis in on it and we are all being led down the garden path?

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    3. Wow, haven't seen that footage of ace-perp Bashir Al Sadeq before. And they call the liar Bashir Al Germani Absolutely brilliant find, Hurriya. Shot around mid-day on 28 August, Sunday, the day before Al Jazeera's Zeina Khodr finally turns up after everyone else. One for Adam!

      UK man at 46.18 is war criminal William Hague's deputy, member of UK parliament. Alistair Burt Another perp. He appears at the start of the video. What a load of nonsense.
      Moonbeam Productions (UK) has produced 3 films for distortion and regime change channel Al Jazeera. Long Road to Tripoli (2 parts) and the one you found, Gaddafi The Endgame - State of Denial

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    4. Just for the record - Al Jam'ani (much more likely as you say) in translation is, I think, الجمعاني But perhaps another fake name.

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    5. As Felix said, sweet video, Hurriya! Some background too, excellent. The footage is gold. I'm saving a copy now, if it works. Germani/Jamani name given. Will be noted and stuff.

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  10. @ felix : Major General Robin Searby

    felix said : From Al Jazeera The Sunday Times reported on Sunday.
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2011/09/20119320053377843.html

    The paper said one secret document showed that Robin Searby, Blair's defence co-ordinator on Libya, had sent a confidential invitation in 2006 for Khamis and Saadi Gaddafi to watch "VIP demonstrations" of the SAS and its sister regiment, the Special Boat Service (SBS).

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/gaddafi-killing-gets-war-criminal-blair-off-the-hook.html

    both labour and tory party are not trustworthy or reliable :
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17503116
    http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/10613325-british-defense-minister-resigns-over-scandal

    ask a country with Libya's wealth and resources to pay their share of the gold."
    http://www.publicserviceeurope.com/article/1018/libya-should-pay-costs-of-op-ellamy

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  11. @ felix : How Britain courted, armed and trained a Libyan monster

    talking about a monster : look vids below.
    Khamees was a good boy : quiet, friendly to everybody, not causing problems ,
    all ordinary people love him.

    http://www.channel4.com/news/british-arms-sales-defending-the-indefensible

    Recent events in the Middle East have highlighted the United Kingdom's position as one of the world's most successful arms producers.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqzksrV6fG4&feature=channel

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-banks-fund-deadly-clusterbomb-industry-2338168.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/8754379/UK-promoted-sale-of-sniper-rifles-to-Gaddafi-just-weeks-before-uprising-began.html

    It said: "With reference to the recent office call by the British Ambassador HE Richard Northern and the UK Ministry of defence, Assistant Chief of the Defence Staff, Gen Shaw, the British Embassy is pleased to respond on the points raised: Sniper 50 Calibre. Two qualified manufacturers, Accuracy International and Manroy Engineering, would be ready to host an inward visit to UK by an LAF team. This visit would be subject to the usual UK inwards protocol clearance and can be arranged through this embassy."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6OPwbb_JIs

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  12. Cristiano Tinazzi, reporting for Ultime Notizie, 29 August, also noted that Bashir was originally from Zawiyah. His visit is from 28 August, as he mentions a body in a bulldozer shovel and a green clad medic. In addition, Salem Faih [Ferjani??] lives right near here. "Last Tuesday, while we were eating something after the fast-break, we heard loud explosions and then the machine guns. We got scared because we thought that Qaddafi's troops had begun to shoot at everything and everyone. In the middle of the road we saw people screaming and running and to save them. The prisoners who have escaped from my house there were four: one of them had his hand severed cleanly, the other two bullets in the legs and one, fortunately, was uninjured. " (google translate)

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    1. I'm getting more ambivalent about new info, but always feel free to keep finding it. I can deal however I do.

      Here, cool find. I even went to the hassle of re-translating and googling a few words to get the link YOU DIDN't GIVE ME. New info on Bashir and possibly Dr. Salem, if giving another name yet. Sounds like him, starting always with the date or day, and working in fear, and not bothering to have the details line up... cites now four survivors, (3/4 at TMC), though one uninjured, and none sounding like Benowen, escaping "verso la mia casa,"towards my house." Yeah, that's him.

      Bechir Mohammed, the rare Zawiya pedigree verified, solidifying the connection between him and Omar. Now living in Janzour - arrested in Zawiya, held three months, escaped six days... yeah, hypothetically, enough to say "living" in his hotel room, close enough to keep doing interviews. He talked to PHR in Zawiyah - all their witnesses were there.

      Auto-translate:
      A massacre. "I'm one of the survivors - said Mohammed Bashir - I live in Janzour, not far from Tripoli, but are originally from Zawiya. There were my four children and my wife. When they took me and my cousin, we were taken first to a detention center and then to this place. They remained closed for 95 days in that place, "says Bashir indicating the warehouse, a building constructed with brick and corrugated iron roof. [...] "It 's all began at sunset, about eight o'clock in the evening. Some soldiers have opened the door and fired seven or eight bombs. Then they started shooting with machine guns. When I saw them take arms I tried to run away with me and many others.
      Ran where/how unspecified. Still no mention of Omar's attempted savior "Mustafa," date not specified, detention there at the shed for 95 days. The held somewhere else first might screw up the 95 days=August 22 thing, unless that was only hours. PHR report might help there... that's a point he remains consistent on otherwise, so I hope it doesn't get jammed up here. Might weaken my working theory on that guy and Dr. Salem ...

      Other points:
      Salem A hand blown off or actually severed? Never heard a peep from that survivor. Unless that's Benowen, and his hand was sliced off too in that "callous attack" no other prisoners mentioned...

      Idiots put a picture Saadi Gaddafi, I think, labeled as Khamis.

      "Thursday I was told that people are back to burn the bodies and bring on others." ("portarne via altri")
      The video suggests about the 25th and/or 26th...

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  13. My link works OK for me at this end in my comment!?! Curious.

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    1. Yeah... I guess I read it only from the control panel where links don't show up. Duh.

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