April 10, 2012
(incomplete)
This will be a post about an interesting character that's just gotten famous enough, as Dr, Salem once did, that we're able to put a name to previously known weird character seen at the site of the Khamis Brigade Shed Massacre.
Below, perhaps, some comments, until I pull those and/or others together into this post. Or maybe a fellow admin will fill this in, or just leave a great string of comments so I don't even have to draft a post.
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A quote was picked up by AFP,uploaded by TVE Nouvelles at 15.42h (=16.42 local time) Sat August 27, Découverte de 50 squelettes carbonisés
ReplyDelete«Ils ont fui comme des rats et quand nous sommes arrivés nous avons trouvé cela. Ils les ont brûlés. On ne peut pas dire qu'ils sont musulmans. Ils n'appartiennent à aucune religion du monde», fulminait Majid Fitouri, un combattant venu de Misrata.
Probably unconnected, a rare reference at North Africa United March 31 2012, exists to Col. Yazin Fituri, operations head of the Tripoli Military Council, the coordinating body for the capital’s military brigade.
From Sirte, 12 October 2011: Five corpses shown to a Reuters team wore civilian clothes and had their hands tied behind their backs and gunshot wounds to the head.
"There are about 25 innocent people with their hands tied. There is no humanity. It's sad," said NTC commander Salem al Fitouri standing besides the corpses, which he said had been there for at least five days.
Communications and Transport Minister Anwar Al Feituri,
Also, some interesting quotes from Al-Fituri here: In Libya prisons, former rebels exact revenge on Gaddafi loyalists, Tracey Shelton , Global Post Feb 17 2012.
ReplyDelete“It was easier to kill them [imprisoned loyalists]. This is how people thought,” said Majid Alfituri, who was among the first to take up arms against the regime of Muammar Gaddafi.
Alfituri, however, couldn’t bear to stand by and watch. He has now become one of a few who are fighting for the fair treatment of former Gaddafi loyalists being held in the country’s disparate, and sometimes makeshift, jails.
“In March, we turned one of the schools into a prison. We tried to save as many as we could, but sometimes it was impossible … Eventually I was accused of being with them [soldiers loyal to Gaddafi] because I was saving them.”
After six weeks, Alfituri fled from his role in the prison, which was home primarily to captured Gaddafi troops. Due to his efforts to stop the torture and execution of those captured by rebels, Alfituri said he was shot at and his home ransacked. But he continues to speak out against the treatment of Libya’s prisoners of war.
Since the outset of the revolution, reports of atrocities committed by both sides have been frequent.
While Gaddafi troops, now in detention, say they were often ordered to torture and execute prisoners and attack civilians. Revenge and mob justice played a major role in the treatment of prisoners on the rebel side.
Alfituri said these civilians often reflected the instant judgments of the brutal regime under which they had grown up.
Alfituri said that although the situation has improved in some prisons, the torture both to gain information and as punishment remains frequent.
“This mentality was reinforced by Gaddafi,” he said. “Under Gaddafi it was a jungle where the strong ate the weak. But now it’s worse than a jungle. There is no law, no justice, no control.”
What did alfituri with his rifle : shooting in the air 9 months?
DeleteAnd all this psyops talk is zero % true : everybody had a good live in Libiya and nothing to fear. Just ppl planning to kill the gvt had a problem , same as in every country
Did the saint alfituri not know what happened in his city or helped a little bit ?
DeleteThese were the burned, the exploded, the decomposed — soldiers who were blown apart by NATO airstrikes or who, surrounded in the fighting in the city’s center, died in buildings reduced to rubble or set on fire.
There are credible accounts in Misurata, from people who asked to remain anonymous to avoid retaliation and not have their future access to rebel leaders restricted, that some fighters disposed of dead Qaddafi soldiers by dumping them into the sea.
Many of the names of those in these holes will most likely never be known. The others may have a chance at being claimed by those who miss them.
This is especially so because the number of confirmed dead — contained in the cemetery’s registry — is most likely smaller than the quantity of dead actually recovered by rebels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrZc83I7dII&feature=endscreen&NR=1
look at face of carpetseller & Hunter-in-chief Hisham Buhagiar
@ 0.40 talking about 50.00 missing: a graveyard with 7000
misrata took the most : 15000/ 17000 the carpetseller says
14 April, another doctor said 700 rebels and civilians died in the two-month siege: how many loyalists, how many Towerghans?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4R7U-sVwRI
http://war.moonlitlibya.com/en/nato_crimes/2012/02/tarwhegan-blacks-in-prison-of-ntc.html
Tripolipost Gada Mahfud is turning upside down what happened :
The fact is that if there was any racist tensions it was solely on the Tawergha side because it was its residents who targeted Misurata's residents; and yes, that might have been racially motivated.
http://tripolipost.com/articledetail.asp?c=5&i=8041
Richard Spencer, Telegraph apparently has an audience with Al-Fituri, dated 28 August. For when the end came, the brigade ran away. "There was not much resistance," said Majid al-Fitouri, one of the rebels who swept into the barracks on Friday night. The defenders fled towards the airport, and then into the heat haze.
ReplyDeleteThe residents came out of their houses, and found the shed.
some fituri's :
ReplyDeleteREUTERS/Esam Al-Fetori (LIBYA
http://www2.2space.net/images/upl_news/110905/1315259402.jpg
weapons from tripoli transported to nofla
*
You've had your nap, you've drank your tea, now go and register! Only an hour and a half left to register for the #Benghazi #Election
Nada Elfeituri @NadaElfeituri
The report was also confirmed by Zagreb daily Vecernji list whose correspondent in Misrata, Hasan Hajdar Dijab, said many mercenaries had been killed in fighting, but those arrested were shot in the head.
ReplyDeletehttp://civiliancontractors.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/libya-rebels-execute-85-mercenaries-including-12-serbs/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzQSymiAnoo&feature=related
ReplyDeleteRecent UNHC report claims that hospitals have been attacked by Libyan forces, but ignores the fact that those hospitals were used as military facilities by rebels.
Ukrainian Doctors evacuated from Misrata speak about situation in a city.
They say that Misrata polyclinic, which is now accepting most wounded, is being used by rebels as headquarters and press-center, 3 colour green flag is on a hospital, heavy weaponry is stationed around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hioSFBCYZUI
ReplyDelete@ 6.28
does somebody know the name of this sick man?
@hurriya - yes, he is described in the next part as Mohamed Swehli, but he is quoted elsewhere, over the detention of two Press TV journos as Mohammed Al-Swehli of the Suwehli Brigade, leader Faraj Al-Suwehli. Mohammed Al-Swehli may be seen with other members of the brigade in this video concerning the journos, Libya Detains Journalists from Iran's Press TV for Espionage: Faraj al-Swehli Militia's Evidence , e.g. clearly at 0.14. He looks kind of English. For the record, Faraj Al-Swehli may be seen on this page
ReplyDelete@ felix : off topic :
Deletethx for answer , I saw the manners becoming so unfriendly on blog lately, answering without mention the name of the person who is talked to, taking links without saying who mentioned the link first.
Another point : for y as photo fan :
the photographers who jubilated the rebels are now at work for reconcilation :
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
Special thanks to the photo agencies: VII, Corbis, Prospekt, Reuters.We choose the name "ADIL-Almost Dawn in Libya" in memory of the photojournalists Tim Hetherington, Chris Hondros and Anton Hammerl.
http://www.emphas.is/web/guest/discoverprojects?projectID=545
finbarroreilly : We have just under a week left to fund our group project taking our #photojournalism work back to #Libya: http://t.co/n54n6Otq Thanks!
Majid al-Fituri was in Bab Al Aziziya on August 25th:
ReplyDeleteThe fall of Tripoli – Thursday, August 25
By Remco Anderson on September 06, 2011
But a return of the dictator is now out of the question. It is “game over” for him, says Majid Fituri, a 47-year-old rebel leader from Misrata, while wandering around the rubble of Qadhafi’s former stronghold of Bab Al Aziziya
It is almost certain that Sidney Kwiram of Human Rights Watch also was informed by Al-Fituri. In her report of Aug 29, she writes: "Human Rights Watch also interviewed an NTC fighter who said that he and his brigade found the warehouse while it was smoking when they seized the Yarmouk military base in Salahaddin on August 26. He told Human Rights Watch that as his brigade entered the base around noon, they went looking around. “We smelled it,” he told Human Rights Watch about their discovery."
ReplyDeleteAnother Fituri - Mohamed El-Faituri whose English is quite good enough and he is well enough connected enough to conduct a telephone interview with the US Washington Times, calling for a NFZ on March 8 2011: Libyan rebels call for ‘surgical airstrikes’
ReplyDeleteMohamed El-Faituri, a resident of Benghazi, said he was startled from his sleep by the rattling of his home’s front door as bombs exploded at an arms depot on the outskirts of the city last week.
“Would Mr. Obama be able to sleep if explosions in Washington made the front door of the White House rattle like that? How many more innocent people must die before Mr. Obama puts a no-fly zone over Libya?” an angry Mr. El-Faituri said in a phone interview with The Times.
felix : ? Mohamed Benrasali, a member of the provisional committee in Misurata, told The Washington Times in a phone interview Tuesday.
Deletehttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/mar/8/libyan-rebels-call-for-surgical-airstrikes/?page=all
Idris Tayeb Lamin : family of our mohamed lamin?
another family member? : The war is already on. It’s against the Libyan people,” Mr. Tayeb Lamin said.
In Benghazi, Libya’s second-largest city, Idris Tayeb Lamin, who spent 10 years as a political prisoner, said airstrikes should be launched on Col. Gadhafi’s tribal stronghold of Sirte and his heavily fortified military compound at Bab al-Aziziya on the outskirts of Tripoli.
benrasali was the one with the very open minded opinions about Tawerghans, [Sept 26] voiced to Leila Fadel of the Washington TImes, for which he seems to be rent-a-quote.
DeleteWe’re not saying that we will kill them all. We’re saying that they can’t live among us or near us.”
“There is no reason for [torture] to happen now,” said Mohamed Benrasali, a Misrata resident. [26 Jan 2012]
Another planter of Gaddafi death fables.
@ felix : there are so many correlations between Shed, Misrata brigade & UK & NTC
ReplyDeletehttp://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=3&id=29518
Hassan al-Amin returning to misrata after 28 years' exile spent in the UK and returned to the fighting in the middle of last year,
Hasan al-Amin returned to Misratah last June aboard a fishing boat from Tunisia leaving behind his family in Britain.
He worked with the revolutionaries and was with them when they broke into Bab al-Aziziyah [Gaddafi's compound in Tripoli] in August
[The children of the former oppositionists also returned holding western nationalities.Some of them returned to bear arms against Gaddafi and were welcomed by the revolutionaries ]
"I can't see any justication for [it] whatsoever," said Hassan al-Amin, who returned to the town after 28 years' exile spent in the UK.
"We have a big force in Tripoli. They are not going to follow orders from a war criminal.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/29/misrata-rebels-defy-libya-regime
alhabib alamien
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXQyQw3FYXU
@ 3.29 alhabib alamien , political prisoner freed by rebels from abu saleem prison
Shed escapee mohamed lamien @ 3.06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aX0WC78QmA&t=2m32s
http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/61/f1/2fa76d6d42388a1354a54f5a5883.jpeg
DeleteAmong the attendees was journalist and human rights activist Hassan al-Amin, one of the Gadhafi regime’s sharpest critics during his years of exile in London, who shared a bittersweet swirl of emotions as the books were revealed.
http://feb17.info/news/libya-welcomes-banned-books/
A leading Libyan opposition figure has said the movement is well placed to take over the running of the country "when Gaddafi falls".
DeleteHassan El Amin, who has returned to Libya after more than 30 years' exile in the UK, said there was now "a certain degree of organisation" among the opposition.
He said the internet and social networking sites had been invaluable in the rise of the opposition, with calls for change growing over the past few years until "by the time the revolution has started, there were thousands of them".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13745795
He's a big chum of the Guardian "newspaper", Hurriya. He told them about Gaddafi in Misrata, allegedly: Hassan Elamin, a prominent Libyan exile who has lived for 28 years in the UK and is the editor of the online Libyan newspaper Libya Almostakbal said he had called Misrata today and that Gaddafi was reportedly being held in Misrata, Libya's third largest city. He said the city was in the middle of wild celebrations. "We're still taking in the news," he told the Guardian. "This is a big buzz."
DeleteElamin said Gaddafi was arrested by Misratan units in Sirte late last night and reportedly transported to a secure location in the city and that in the same arrest Gaddafi's former defence minister Abu Bakr Yunis was shot dead.
he tells Chris Stephen of the Guardian at 13.01hrs, 20 Oct.
See what this perp also said in an Al Jazeera live blog on February 17 2011:
Hassan El Amin, editor of Libya Al Mostaqbal, estimates that 75 people were killed and hundreds injured after police and pro-government supporters opened fire on a peaceful protest
Dreadful Canadian BBC perp Lyse Doucet, now up to her usual tricks in Syria, to camera just before the Alhabib Alamien (audio at @ 3.29 link). These people are automatons. (or intelligence agents)
DeleteMiranda Leitsinger of msnbc ,31 March 2011 also caught up with El-Amin,as well as some other Americans,Illinois father Ibrahim Elfirjani and son Sanad, as well as Khalifa Hifter from Richmond, Virginia and Sofyan Amry, a 25-year-old student and musician from Chicago.
DeleteYr link above about the Rajmeh depot :
DeleteHis son, Sanad Elfirjani : I really felt the explosion. I was one of the first people to be there responding to that," said Sanad, 27, an operation manager for an oil company
here some other people about it :
Bengezi and Dr. Mahmoud Darrat, a Hamilton anesthesiologist, along with two other Canadian physicians of Libyan descent, rushed to Libya Feb. 27 for two weeks to help the country’s medical authorities [rebels]
“I was in Benghazi, 25 kilometres away, and I felt the earthquake from the explosion. I rushed to the hospital and found 11 people burned to death. Only one survived.”
http://www.thespec.com/print/article/506154
@Hurriya - I can't find my original Rajmeh comment (story here. At present it is not possible to search the comments on the blog via Google. I Don't know why.
DeleteHassan al-Amin returning to misrata after 28 years' exile spent in the UK :
Delete29.8.2012 GNC member, Hassan Lamin, defending the decision explained in a live debate on Al-Wataniya TV last night that “the way it was proposed and voted upon was wrong. Many members did not understand what they were voting on”.
The GNC had decided last week to award its members the equivalent remuneration package as that of the prime minister, including an extensive benefits and expenses package for housing, travel and health insurance.
The current prime minister Abdurrahim Al-Kib has chosen not to be paid a salary. However, his deputy prime ministers are currently on LD 11,000 per month.
GOTCHA THE SHED ESCAPEE MOHAMED LAMIEN :
ReplyDeleteList of those arrested so far: Mohamed al-Amin,Habib al-Amin
http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/02/16/libya-arrests-assaults-advance-planned-protests
Hassan Al-Amin Libya-al-mostakbal
Anchor Lisa Mullins speaks with Hassan Al-Amin, a Libyan anti-Gaddafi activist based in London. He runs a website called Libya Al-Mostakbal or Libya of the Future. He says two of his brothers back in Libya have been detained by security police since the protests began in February. Download MP3
032420112.mp3 (MP3 Format Sound, 162 bytes)
http://media.theworld.org/audio/032420112.mp3?
http://www.libya-al-mostakbal.org/
Hassan Amin, who is based in the United Kingdom and runs the popular opposition site Libya Al-Mostakbal said this is not the first time his Web site has been targeted by the regime in Tripoli since its establishment more than seven years ago.
http://global-news.info/libya-al-mostakbal-arabic/
hasan al amien :
Deletemy brothers were picked up early februari day before intifada, 15 feb
my brothers were picked up from misrata from their own houses
most likely they were brought to tripoli
unconfirmed report 24 people have returned today to misrata from sirte ,
security forces took young people from misrata,zintan,zawya
sirte could be another place were people are held
http://media.theworld.org/audio/032420112.mp3?
alhabib alamien
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXQyQw3FYXU
@ 3.29 alhabib alamien , political prisoner freed by rebels from abu saleem prison
http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/02/16/libya-arrests-assaults-advance-planned-protests
List of those arrested so far:
nr 7Habib al-Amin / nr 8 Mohamed al-Amin
Shed escapee mohamed lamien @ 3.06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aX0WC78QmA&t=2m32s
Hassan al-Amin
Deletehttp://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/61/f1/2fa76d6d42388a1354a54f5a5883.jpeg
Among the attendees was journalist and human rights activist Hassan al-Amin, one of the Gadhafi regime’s sharpest critics during his years of exile in London, who shared a bittersweet swirl of emotions as the books were revealed.
Hasan al-Amin returned to Misratah last June aboard a fishing boat from Tunisia leaving behind his family in Britain.
He worked with the revolutionaries and was with them when they broke into Bab al-Aziziyah [Gaddafi's compound in Tripoli] in August
[The children of the former oppositionists also returned holding western nationalities,some of them returned to bear arms against Gaddafi and were welcomed by the revolutionaries ]
Nuri Lamin
Delete"It's hard to get through each day," the 41-year-old, who now lives in London, says.
"The days of Gaddafi may be over but every family in Libya has had someone who was arrested, imprisoned or tortured by his regime. Waiting to hear what has happened to them is very difficult."
Mr Lamin's uncles, Mohammed and Habib bin Lamin, were arrested at gunpoint on 15 February from the port town of Misrata, just days before the protests began. Mohammed, a well-known artist, and Habib, a poet, had been inspired by the revolts in Egypt and Tunisia and had written tracts calling on Colonel Gaddafi to embrace reform.
For Nuri Lamin – who organised the Hollywood star Ewan McGregor's 2007 motorbike ride through Libya – the agonising wait continues.
"My uncle's just disappeared," he says. "After a few months we managed to speak to someone who claimed they were being held in Jdeida.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/beyond-bars-one-by-one-tripolis-prisons-give-up-their-secrets-2344155.html
UPDATE: Have just got off the phone with Nuri Lamin. He said his two uncles have been located and they are both safe.
Apparently they managed to escape from Abu Salim around a month ago and had been hiding out in a rebel held safe house nearby. There were too many Gaddafi troops in the area to risk fleeing to the western mountains so they stayed put.
IF these uncles had been killed Feb. 15 in Misrata it would most likely mean by "protesters" who started a few days earlier than this writer thinks. But since they were "reformists" who "disappeared" just as the revolt started, and later turned up safe with Rebels, chances are they just ran off and joined the NATO foot soldier circus.
DeleteAnd in the meantime let their supposed disappearance foment upset and cries for justice and regime change to find the missing. I imagine a lot of people took this route, creating a fake, implied, temporary mini-holocaust and a secret army to emerge side-by-side. Friggin' genius.
Imho mohamed pops up at the shed.
Deletejust wonder how they could escape fr abu saleem prison in july :
UPDATE: Have just got off the phone with Nuri Lamin. He said his two uncles have been located and they are both safe.
Apparently they managed to escape from Abu Salim around a month ago
and it aint small fishes :
DeleteNevertheless, some Libyans are unworried. Writer and activist al-Habib al-Amin said the Benghazi declaration “only represents those who wrote it,” who were trying to serve their own purposes and would not be heeded by the public. “They are a minority seeking to reposition themselves and to play a role after the revolution, because they supported the old regime and are thieves of public money," he said.
http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/2012/03/libya-federalists-trigger-fears-of.html
I think numerous disappearances and kidnappings, including of journalists, may have been engineered for political purposes as Caustic suggests. Escape from Abu Salim in July highly fanciful...
DeleteNuri Lamin
Age Guide: 32-36
Henley-On-Thames, Oxfordshire, RG9
(very expensive area....)
Jannat Tours a Libyan company run by Omar Nass and Nuri Lamin..
....based in Misurata Business Centre, Misurata.
http://www.simoontravel.com/index.php?q=libya_tours "Please note that due to the Revolution in Libya our tours to Libya are on hold."
felix : it's clear again that this blog is read 'thoroughly': yr links above don't work anymore.
Deletedid some extra research :
For Nuri Lamin – who organised the Hollywood star Ewan McGregor's 2007 motorbike ride through Libya – the agonising wait continues.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/beyond-bars-one-by-one-tripolis-prisons-give-up-their-secrets-2344155.html
"My uncle's just disappeared," he says. "After a few months we managed to speak to someone who claimed they were being held in Jdeida.
"But Jdeida was liberated days ago and still nothing : Friday 26 August 2011
Some of the first targets for rebel troops as they entered Tripoli were the city's prisons.
In the past week, thousands of inmates have been freed from large facilities such as Jdeida, Ain Zara and Abu Salim. The liberation of Abu Salim, dramatically captured on rebel soldiers' mobile phones, was particularly symbolic.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2742/is_359/ai_n25114469/
DeleteIn co-operation with Jannat Tours a Libyan company run by Omar Nass and Nuri Lamin, Amelia is planning a trip to Wau-Au-Namus near Sebha in the heart of ..
Nuri Lamin: Libyan Fixer and playboy extraordinaire
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?threaded=1&v=1p-R0o4Yw04
Nuri Lamin ... Himself (2 episodes, 2007),:mrgreen: Long Way Down (2007)
http://beerfarts.us.com/forum1/viewtopic.php?p=122424&sid=507f90811d242bffbf2c278019314b4b
Registrant:carlibya.com/ US
ReplyDeleteDomain Name: CARLIBYA.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: carlibya.com ramadantariq@hotmail.com
Similar sites :libya-al-mostakbal.org
The domain libya-al-mostakbal.org is currently hosted on a server located in Burlington MA, United States with the IP address 66.96.130.49.
strange site under the guise of car sales,ramadantariq@hotmail.com
Deletehttp://informe.com/carlibya.com/
strange name ressemblance too :
DeleteTariq Ramadan is a Swiss-born philosophy professor currently based in France.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1884
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/01/libya-alan-duncan-links-oil-cell
The government has admitted that the international development minister, Alan Duncan, took part in meetings between officials operating a Whitehall cell to control the Libyan oil market and Vitol – a company for which Duncan has previously acted as a consultant.
The "Libyan oil cell" involved a group of officials working in the Foreign Office since May waging a quiet campaign against Muammar Gaddafi's regime by controlling the flow of oil in the country.
It is said to have played a discreet but crucial role in the campaign in Libya by helping to enforce the sanctions regime to prevent Gaddafi importing and exporting oil while allowing oil to reach the rebels in the east. That oil came via one company, Vitol.
Duncan, a former oil trader and multi-millionaire, has had a 30-year friendship with the managing director of Vitol, Ian Taylor, at one point operating as a consultant to the company and as a non-executive director to a subsidiary firm. Taylor has also been a Tory donor, declared on Duncan's parliamentary register of interests.
Hurriya - thanks for the Star article Noveember 15 by Mitch Potter.
DeleteSaid Abdullah al-Harati, a senior Tripoli Revolutionary Brigade leader: “Our struggle is not just military, but intellectual. Gadhafi fought science, he fought knowledge. Clearly this is Mahdi al-Harati.
The archaeologist quoted, “Here in this historic place, knowledge was banned. The previous regime called it a national library, but it was more like an indoctrination centre to control our thinking,” said Dr. Salah Abdallah Rajeb al-Aghab, a senior official with the Libyan government archeology section. is better searched for under the name Salah al-Agab, director of the Dept of Antiquities. More recently, On Thursday,[March 22 2012] Salah Agab, Chairman of the Department of Antiquities, was kidnapped by unidentified militiamen, only to be freed the following day. It is believed that the brigadesmen responsible released Agab following payment of the promised bounties. (Libya Herald. Dr Agab is seen here in November 2010, Gaddafi period, successfully schmoozing with BP and a UK academic. I bet he thought he's never be kidnapped in his own city then.
@ felix : I thank you for this link :
Deletehttp://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=3&id=29518
which gave me the trace to the FAKE SHED ESCAPEE MOHAMED LAMIEN
Shed escapee mohamed lamien @ 3.06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aX0WC78QmA&t=2m32s
and his brother:
alhabib alamien
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXQyQw3FYXU
@ 3.29 alhabib alamien , political prisoner freed by rebels from abu saleem prison
al-Aghab, S
Deleteusers.ox.ac.uk/~corp0057/ - 7 Apr 2012 – This excavation of a Greek colony in Libya, occupied from the 6th-3rd ..... Mattingly, D., al-Aghab, S., Ahmed, M., Moussa, F., Sterry, M. and ...
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~corp0057/
"It is patently untrue, Tripoli Zoo Director Anas Ali al-Aghab confirmed
@ felix :Is this the same man? c here his name is salah al hassi
Deletehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15582483
Priceless antiquities stolen from Benghazi museum
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/03/libyan-job/
@Hurriya - Asharq Alawasat = Saudi financed London publication......
Delete@Hurriya: "FAKE SHED ESCAPEE MOHAMED LAMIEN"
DeleteHow so? I see the guy you mean, but not how you decided who he is or what he's done. From the hugs, I'd call (and have called) the OTHER white t-shirt guy seen at 6:09, a possible survivor.
That is, if you've got a good lead, I'll include him, but otherwise not.
@ caustic :
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aX0WC78QmA&t=2m32s
#26 M. M. Zedan, from ZlitenHorra video [VZH] names him : mohamed lamien from zliten @ 3.01
btw : there is also talking about hamza harisi zawiya
February 17 is a date that resonates in Libya because it has come to symbolize peaceful protest in the face of police brutality," Stork said. "This time Libyan authorities should protect - not violate - the right to peaceful protest."
http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/02/16/libya-arrests-assaults-advance-planned-protests
List of those arrested so far:
nr 7 : Habib al-Amin / nr 8 Mohamed al-Amin
Later in the day, in Misrata, Internal Security arrested brothers Habib and Mohamed al-Amin, whose brother Hassan runs the opposition website Libya Al Mostakbal out of London.
Alhabib Alamin, a 44-year-old writer and political activist in Benghazi :
http://feb17.info/news/new-libyan-leaders-juggle-demands-grievances/
There’s a lack of trust between the politicians and the streets,” said Alhabib Alamin, a 44-year-old writer and political activist in Benghazi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXQyQw3FYXU
@ 3.29 alhabib alamien , political prisoner freed by rebels from abu saleem prison
@Hurriya - Stork: Joe Stork, deputy Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. The HRW theme running all through this is suspicious and unhealthy. Is that I.O. Zadan next to MM Zadan at 2.33 in the video? From your photo of Hassan Al-Amin, (and also seen speaking in this June 13 2011 BBC Video of Al-Amin) he seems to be a different generation from the poet and the guy in the Russian B-KOHTAKTE t-shirt spotlighted by Petri (comments May 9).
DeleteThere's a thumbnail photo of the poet Al Habib El-Amin here at libya-watanona
Delete@Hurriya - do you recognise anybody here??
Delete@Hurriya - re arrests in HRW report of Feb 17 2011:
DeleteAnother report by Committee to Protect journalists, NY, Aug 25 2011 mentions some of them:
Atef al-Atrash, a contributor to local news outlets in Benghazi, disappeared on February 17 after speaking on air on Al-Jazeera. Mohamed al-Sahim, [no 10 in the HRW list] a blogger and critical political writer, Mohamed al-Amin, a cartoonist, [no.8] and Idris al-Mismar [no.9] a writer and the former editor-in-chief of Arajin, a monthly culture magazine, have also been reported missing. [by HRW?] Two Tripoli-based journalists--Salma al-Shaab, head of the Libyan Journalists Syndicate, and Suad al-Turabouls, a correspondent for the pro-government Al-Jamahiriya--were detained in late February, but have not been heard from since. All six journalists' whereabouts are still unknown.
An earlier CPJ article from Feb 24 2011 mentions an additional blogger missing Jalal al-Kawafi
Better picture of the poet Al-Habib Al-Amin here
Deletedo you recognise anybody
Delete@ felix , will study it after more
by now : white board : 21 10 2011 , I.O Zadan @ 0.01 [ I guess]
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/chainsawmoth/Libyan%20Civil%20War/shedmassacre_I_Zadan.jpg
@ Hurriya: Thanks. I will have to look into that.
Delete@ felix : faces Ive seen somewhere [ they say many of zliten]:
Deletebeard @ 0.06
@ 0.15
@ 0.26 the gloves,blue shirt embracer at shed?
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=237265516339078&set=vb.211377508927978&type=2&theaterin
@ felix : reporters without borders are a long time after Libiya :
Deletehttp://www.unhcr.org/refworld/publisher,RSF,,LBY,46e6911db,0.html
Reporters Without Borders Annual Report 2004 - Libya
Reporters Without Borders (RWB) is a French-based international non-governmental organization that advocates freedom of the press and freedom of information.
This organization, which has consultant status at the United Nations.,[1] was founded in 1985, by Robert Ménard, Rony Brauman and the journalist Jean-Claude Guillebaud.[2] Jean-François Julliard has served as Secretary General since 2008.[3]
English speakers also commonly refer to the organization by its French name, Reporters Sans Frontières, or its French acronym, RSF.[4] Its head office is in the 2nd arrondissement of Paris.[5]
@Hurriya - looks just like him! There can only be one head of the Libyan antiquties department. Wonder why he keeps two names? Thanks for the video link. This is the only reference to Salah Al-Hassi on the web. What is the BBC hiding?
ReplyDelete@ felix : another antiquties man just landed :
DeleteJustin Marozzi @justinmarozzi
Just landed #Tripoli, friend reports #Touareg attack on #Ghadames today, source in UN says 10 dead - all unconfirmed #Libya
16 5
In 2010 Justin was a senior advisor to the British government's Stabilisation Unit (SU)
http://www.albanyassociates.com/people/justin-marozzi
y name a name , y get it :
ReplyDeleteList of Benghazi Local Council candidates
Al-Tagouri,Al-Kilani,Darrat,
10 Ashraf Suleiman Salem Rajab 1985 M [ not 40 something]
10 Mahmoud Jibril drowsiness Ferjani 1960 M [?]
http://www.libyaherald.com/list-of-benghazi-local-council-candidates/
Since making observations on name similarities is so popular here, thought I'd just drop a rare comment on this post, something I stumbled across.
ReplyDeleteALGERIA ISP / According to Haraka Elmokawama Libya, sources confirmed the death of three Libyan rebels in Syria. The Syrian Army killed them. These are:
Jalal Ahmed Elakouri.
Waleed Talal Elfitouri.
Ahmed Walid Elfitouri
http://libyaagainstsuperpowermedia.com/tag/syrian-army/
Since making observations on name similarities is so popular here:
DeleteSaid Abdullah al-Harati, a senior Tripoli Revolutionary Brigade leader: “Our struggle is not just military, but intellectual. Gadhafi fought science, he fought knowledge. Clearly this is Mahdi al-Harati.
http://simonstudio.wordpress.com/2011/12/30/libyan-rebel-commander-i-was-on-the-mavi-marmara-2/
Prior to the Libyan rebellion against Qaddafi, al-Harati was living in exile in Ireland. He is reported to have returned to Libya in February, at the very outset of the uprising
"In each battle, we took prisoners. If they died, we buried them,"
ReplyDeletesaid Salem Mohamed Ismail, the commander of a rebel unit from Misrata that was one of the first to enter Tripoli and participated in heavy fighting last week.
Ismail said his unit had taken hundreds of prisoners during the fighting, but refused to say where they had been sent after their capture.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/08/28/122333/libyan-rebels-face-test-as-they.html#storylink=cpy
http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/mass-grave-found-in-tripoli-1.1151453
Diana Eltahawy : Still, the rebels seemed to have committed fewer war crimes than pro-Gadhafi forces.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8728597/Libya-last-act-of-bloody-vengeance-by-Khamis-Brigade.html
For when the end came, the brigade ran away. "There was not much resistance," said Majid al-Fitouri, one of the rebels who swept into the barracks on Friday night. The defenders fled towards the airport, and then into the heat haze.
Friday 26 August 2011
DeleteMass graves of 150 civilians have already been found in Misrata and reports emerged yesterday that a truck full of bullet-ridden corpses with their hands tied behind their backs was delivered to a hospital on the Matiga airbase.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/beyond-bars-one-by-one-tripolis-prisons-give-up-their-secrets-2344155.html
With Gadhafi's troops also accused of atrocities — photos circulated over the weekend of dozens of bodies of people allegedly executed by pro-government sympathizers and then burned — the risk of revenge killing is on many minds./Published on Sunday, August 28, 2011
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/08/28/122333/libyan-rebels-face-test-as-they.html#storylink=cpy
Al Italia has agreed to restart flights on Nov. 2, interim minister for transport and communications, Anwar Alfituri, told Reuters.
ReplyDeleteAnother Al-Amin is Lutfi, "a respected rebel fighter" who likes to be seen in his trademark postman's (really a ship's captain's but he is apparently a postman) hat and here, snapped here by Tracey Shelton, with his Misrata comrades.
ReplyDeleteThe Telegraph caught up with Lutfy on November 27: he was raring to go to Syria with Belhaj. "Increasing volumes of video footage have been uploaded to YouTube of Syrians calling on Libyans to join their fight. In a clip backed by dramatic musical effects, a veiled Syrian woman entreats men from Misurata, the west Libyan city that fought off a month-long siege by forces loyal to Col Muammar Gaddafi, to come to save her country.
"We cannot say no to a woman," said Misurata rebel Lutfy el-Amin. "Many men are readying themselves. If they can they will go to join the fight". "
Tracey shelton caught up with him in 2012, but the PBS Video is private. (??)
Lufti al Min , Martyrs brigade commander
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Sadun al-Suwayli Brigade credited with having led the final assault on Sirte,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19744533
19 october 2011 inside Sirte
Elamin said Gaddafi was arrested by Misratan units in Sirte late last night and reportedly transported to a secure location in the city and that in the same arrest Gaddafi's former defence minister Abu Bakr Yunis was shot dead.
http://i46.tinypic.com/10ydgyb.jpg
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Anchor Lisa Mullins speaks with Hassan Al-Amin, a Libyan anti-Gaddafi activist based in London
He runs a website called Libya Al-Mostakbal or Libya of the Future.
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Hasan al-Amin returned to Misratah last June aboard a fishing boat from Tunisia leaving behind his family in Britain.
He worked with the revolutionaries and was with them when they broke into Bab al-Aziziyah [Gaddafi's compound in Tripoli] in August.
Like Al-Amin, the majority of those that fled from Gaddafi's tyranny returned from abroad but are old now.
That is why most of them quickly form political parties or civic society organizations.
As for their young sons - some of them returned to bear arms against Gaddafi and were welcomed by the revolutionaries - but now feel frustrated. In fact, some local Libyans spurn them as not fully Libyan, especially after the law deprived them and deprived their fathers of taking senior positions in the state because of their dual nationalities
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=3&id=29518
At a Misrata garage that has been turned by militiamen into a makeshift prison, one detainee, Abdel-Qader Abdel-Nabi, shows what remains of his left hand: The fingers have been cut off in a ragged line about halfway down. Abdel-Nabi said militiamen lashed his hand with a horse whip until the fingers were severed.
ReplyDelete“Then they threw me bleeding down the stairs,” he said. His interrogators were trying to get him to confess to working with Qaddafi’s forces during last year’s civil war and collaborating in the killing of rebel fighters.
Around 800 other detainees are held in the same facility, which militiamen allowed The Associated Press to visit. The detainees are accused of involvement in killings, torture, rape and other crimes under Qaddafi. There are no courts at the moment capable of addressing the suspicions, so the detainees are entirely at the mercy of militiamen.
Medics in a clinic set up in the garage said they have treated dozens tortured in interrogations. One medic said he had seen nine prisoners whose genitalia had been cut off, and others given electric shocks.
He spoke on condition of anonymity because he feared retaliation by the militiamen.
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/03/04/198447.html
4/3/2012
Wow, that's a doozy of a report, and hard to find a full copy of. I've added this to
Deletehttp://libyancivilwar.blogspot.com/2012/01/mainstream-concern-over-rebel-torture.html
confessed Abdelbari Tahar Fitori
ReplyDeletehttp://www.algeria-isp.com/public/libye1(212).jpg
June 15, 2012
Photo of the rebel Zenten arrested by the Chakika youth.
After interrogation, confessed Abdelbari Tahar Fitori that senior militia Zenten as Mokhtar Akhdar, the commander of the rebel Zenten and the director of the Tripoli International Airport, are the ones who pushed the rebels to attack the town of Chakika since this city is loyal to the Libyan leader. He even confessed that the attack was coordinated with the militias of Zawiya and Misurata.
http://libyaagainstsuperpowermedia.com/2012/06/16/libya-a-video-of-the-bombing-of-the-city-chakika-june-15-2012/
Abdelbari does have the look of a Majid kinsman. Could be of interest. New post on the Chakakia stuff coming up in a minute.
Deletetalking about ferjani, but then on another place ,in benghazi, early uprising, I was amazed by the weapon knowledge of :
ReplyDeleteMamdouh El Ferjani,
In Al Berka Square, Gaddafi’s forces used a 14.5mm anti-aircraft gun against the crowds, said oil worker Mamdouh El Ferjani, who was present.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1360457/Libya-Inside-Benghazi-court-Gaddafis-mercenaries.html
post again :
ReplyDeleteAnuj Mishra1*, ElHousieni Mabrouk2 , Ali Ferjani2 , Mahjoub Rishi2 , Fathi Ebshina2 and Ehtuish Farag Ehtuish2 /Vol 5 (2010) incl Supplements > Mishra
http://www.libyanjournalofmedicine.net/index.php/ljm/article/view/4901/5487
*Anuj Mishra/Department of Radiology/National Organ Transplant Program
checking about ferjani , brought me the janat hotel in my mind :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9tEqAgjg_s&feature=youtu.be
Libyan Confession, Fountroy on Human Butchery, Organ Harvestor, Moshe Harel and Africans Go Home , listen from 4.58 they were putting the dead bodies into freezer mockets[?]
Could it be that the Jannat Resort is the "palace" implicated in this organ trafficking allegation?
A survivor from Misurata relates the following story:
"And I remember that there is a summer resort called Jannat (means Heaven) because any prisoner who was taken there was considered doomed."
We don't know...As we said, these are rumors, but they are only too easily believed since we've seen the share monstrosity of Misurata thugs and their love for blood and money.
Organ trafficking is a lucrative business and countries where there is an armed conflict and no law or security, are paradise for those vultures.
http://libyasos.blogspot.nl/2012/06/libya-news-backup-libyasos-19-may-24.html
The disclosure of mass graves seems to relate to the aftermath of the battle of Misurata, a decisive rebel victory that took place in May.
DeleteIn this context, the graves presumably contain the corpses of government soldiers, although the Misurata Brigade is also widely believed to be responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Tawergha, where thousands of civilians disappeared.
"In Misurata, there are mass graves of Gaddafi soldiers, but we are not supposed to talk about it," the Misurati commander says.
http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2011/levich200911.html
Anuj Mishra1*, ElHousieni Mabrouk2 , Ali Ferjani2 , Mahjoub Rishi2 , Fathi Ebshina2 and Ehtuish Farag Ehtuish2 /Vol 5 (2010) incl Supplements > Mishra
Deletehttp://www.libyanjournalofmedicine.net/index.php/ljm/article/view/4901/5487
*Anuj Mishra/Department of Radiology/National Organ Transplant Program
Mahjoub Rishi:
24 Aug 2011/Tripoli Central Hospital
There were hundreds coming in within the first few hours: "
said Dr Mahjoub Rishi, Professor of Surgery at the hospital
On Saturday night [ 20 aug ] some injured men came to me and asked for help. They knew they couldn't go to the government hospital because they supported the revolution.
A few hours later 10 Gaddafi soldiers came in they were furious. They abused me and pulled out guns and started shooting into the roof." He mimed with his hands as they fired into the roof of his clinic, pulling an imaginary trigger with his finger. They shot out the windows and terrorised eight injured patients.
"They didn't kill anybody. But I thought they were going to" he said. They then fired into each of his legs and stormed out, back to the battle, leaving him for dead.
"He only survived because a man living near his clinic overcame his fear of the Gaddafi soldiers and took him to hospital."
and took him to hospital
Which hospital ?
I have the feeling these poor people aren't alive anymore :
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2ysWK1UNC0&list=UUJlCIbTvRQYPoz8-DOqqZJw&index=2&feature=plcp
القبض علي متطوعين تاورغاء من قبل ثوار مصراتة
Yet there is one stretch of sand where no soul ever ventures. This is an area of scrub and dunes just back from the sandy coves.
DeleteCalled Funduq Al-Jannah - Arabic for Heaven Hotel - it is an execution ground where up to 1,000 of Gaddafi’s fighters were taken by the victorious rebel army, then slaughtered in cold-blooded vengeance.
Everyone in Misrata knows of the events that unfolded at this desolate spot, but no outsiders had been here until I visited this week and heard the full harrowing details of what happened at Heaven Hotel - a bitterly ironic name, as I shall explain.
The killings highlight the bitter divisions and violence in Libya as its people vote today in their first election for a 200-member national assembly that will name a prime minister, enact legislation and appoint a committee to draft a constitution.
For the truth is that, since Gaddafi fell, Libya has been run by a National Transitional Council which has overseen a descent into anarchy.
I was told of what happened at Heaven Hotel by a group of fighters I came to know at the height of Gaddafi’s siege of the town last year. They drove me to the spot up a bumpy dirt road past a beach crowded with families.
Here prisoners captured by the rebels were ordered to get out of the pick-up trucks into which they had been bundled after being tortured at rebel bases.
These Gaddafi fighters were the ‘worst of the worst’, I was informed - rapists and sadistic killers. Many had been mutilated and made to drink diesel - a form of torture common in Libya - and confessed to rape before being taken to the killing ground near the sea.
Misrata’s rebel fighters reassured them they would not be harmed, that they were simply being taken for questioning at the ‘hotel’. It was a lie. As soon as the captives arrived, the killing started.
‘I’d told one of these dogs that we were taking them to Funduq Al-Jannah near the beach - he was really pleased and said that was good because his aunt lived in the area,’ a Misratan revolutionary told me. ‘We cut his throat first.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2170025/Back-bloody-anarchy-Andrew-Malone-revisits-Libya-finds-country-riven-torture-mass-murder-savage-vengeance.html#ixzz1zzOQWgrB
The prisoners’ hands were bound with plastic ties. They were ordered to lie on their side, with their heads on piles of sand. All my guides were involved, saying they had held the legs of the prisoners while their throats were cut with bayonets. Every one of them denied killing any captives themselves.
Delete‘We burned some of the bodies before burying them in the sand,’ I was told. ‘I don’t know how many were killed - as many as 1,000.’
Most died in the immediate aftermath of the end of the war last August. But sources say people were still being taken to Heaven Hotel earlier this year.
The bodies were buried in a gulley across the sand from where we stood, explained my guides. Here, bulldozer tracks criss-crossed the area. The machines had been used to make large piles of sand and rocks to cover the bodies.
In blinding white sunlight, I scraped at the one of the piles of rock and sand. I found shoes, flip-flops and empty machine-gun cartridges near the surface. The men with me said this was a mass grave.
Later, I spoke to dozens of militia fighters. All told the same story: that Gaddafi fighters suspected of rape or particularly brutal killings were slaughtered here for their crimes.
Senior military sources in the city also acknowledged the existence of Heaven Hotel. Indeed, older, wiser leaders in Misrata were horrified when they learned soon after the war that the prisoners were being killed in such a manner.
They ordered that, in future, all executions had to be carried out with a single bullet in the head - rather than by holding the victims down and cutting their throats.
‘After that, we always shot them,’ another militia fighter told me. ‘It was quicker and cleaner - better for everyone.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2170025/Back-bloody-anarchy-Andrew-Malone-revisits-Libya-finds-country-riven-torture-mass-murder-savage-vengeance.html#ixzz1zzPHJyPC
Many of the victims were from Tawerga, a town 30 miles from here, where some 50,000 black Libyans once lived in happy co-existence with their neighbours in Misrata.
DeleteBut since Gaddafi fell, the rebels have been targeting its black population in indiscriminate revenge attacks for the despot’s deployment of thousands of African mercenaries recruited from outside the country against them.
Some Tawergans undoubtedly took money to join Gaddafi’s forces. But vast numbers never joined in the fighting - and are being attacked simply because their skin colour is associated with Gaddafi’s mercenaries.
Today, Tawerga has been ethnically cleansed of its black Libyans, and largely destroyed. Militia fighters regularly drive out there from Misrata to make sure none of the population have sneaked back in.
Signs bearing the town’s name have been painted over. What remains of the shattered homes, shops and restaurants have been daubed with vile graffiti: ‘Black dogs! No blacks.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2170025/Back-bloody-anarchy-Andrew-Malone-revisits-Libya-finds-country-riven-torture-mass-murder-savage-vengeance.html#ixzz1zzPdzTX4
The reporter Andrew Malone ends his article scape goating without giving any proof of his claims :
DeleteWhen I was reporting on the siege a year ago, I witnessed some of the atrocities inflicted by Gaddafi’s men - scenes of carnage and overwhelming grief I will never forget. This is Misrata’s bloody revenge.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2170025/Back-bloody-anarchy-Andrew-Malone-revisits-Libya-finds-country-riven-torture-mass-murder-savage-vengeance.html#ixzz1zzS6Xomm
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/news/article.cfm?id=5495&cat=field-news
DeleteAugust 18, 2011 Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières began its activities in Libya on February 25, 2011.
MSF teams are currently providing medical assistance in Misrata, Benghazi, Zintan and Yefren.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/26/doctors-without-borders-halts-work-in-libyan-city-of-misrata-over-torture-concerns/
Jan 26, 2012 ,Doctors refuse to aid Libyan ‘torture’
The boy talking in the vid below did trigger the question : how long did MSF help the rebels by healing people for their next torture ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu1wZWKiK-Y&feature=youtu.be&a
Libya - Efforts to Dismantle the Tribes are Underway - Part 3 Asiel
Chairman of Misrata Local Council, Yousef Ben Yousef
ReplyDeleteMembers of Misrata Local Council have called on the chairman Yousef Ben Yousef and his deputy, Mohamed Al-Jamal, to resign.
At a meeting of the council on Thursday, 18 of the 28 council members were reported to have demanded the resignations saying that the two had failed to resolve Misrata’s problems and were unable to manage its affairs properly. They highlighted in particular the recent arrest of media personality Sulaiman Dougha by gunmen from one of the city’s militias. Heading the call for the resignation were councillors Mohamed Ben Othman and Ali Jarani.
Yousef Ben Yousef was elected chairman on 25 February, just five days after Misrata elected its the council — the city’s first democratic elections in over 42 years. He played a prominent role in last year’s revolution getting information to the outside world about what was happening in the city.
http://www.libyaherald.com/misrata-councillors-call-for-chairmans-resignation-2/
http://inagist.com/all/227518965172297728/
ReplyDeleteMISSING PERSON: Ali Fituri Last seen: 1 p.m. in Gergaresh,
Just wondering...
ReplyDeleteIs Majid Al-Fituri in some way related to the Guantanamo prisoner Muhammad Abd Allah Mansur Al Futuri, born on December 1, 1968, in Al Rimi, Libya?
– DOD file
– Wikipedia
The name Alfituri is incorporated with a Large families spread into all over Libya"s sites , and most do not know each other, so there is no relation between me and that Guantanamo man .. any way I was among the first rebels in the city .. yes I was waiting for those times since I was 18 and now I am 50 .. but I was never think my self as a killer even in the battles .. so that is why I consider my self as a fighter did not kill .. as I was wise enough to avoid been in the front of the clashes and while is that was normal when you start to fight whom attacked to kill you, there was so many to carry out that ,, so NO even shots in the air .. and that was the reason which made others to chose me to be in the charge of the first prisoners of war detention site .. but as days past a great deal of oppositions I faced which made me leave .. as I was never able to stop others from carrying revenge.. no way to stop those killings at that times.
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ReplyDeleteFituri with rifle 2011
Comment: Fituri's personal relationship with Muatassim al-Qadhafi, together with the fact that he is U.S.-educated and instinctively intuits how we prefer to do business, lend him valuable perspective and make him an unusually astute observer of the bilateral state of play. His analysis of the GOL's critical lack of human and decision-making capacity is consistent with what we have experienced first-hand and heard from other well-informed interlocutors, including Dr. Mahmud Jibril, head of the National Economic Development Board and TRIPOLI 00000031 003.2 OF 003 National Planning Council, and Ali Essawi, Secretary of the General People's Committee for Economy and Trade (minister-equivalent).
Such limitations will continue to constitute a significant brake on the extent to which we are able to expand cooperation and the speed with which we are able to do so. More broadly, Fituri's remarks on regime elites' lingering ambivalence about the pace and extent of desired engagement with the U.S. suggest that the GOL's reaction to U.S. initiatives is likely to be inconsistent and fitful.
End comment. CRETZ 2009 January 15,
http://www.wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09TRIPOLI31_a.html