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Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Report: Behind the Scenes of an Al Qaeda Massacre

May 28, 2012
small edit June 17


<< Behind the Scenes of An Al Qaeda Massacre {masterlist}


This post will host this second CIWCL report when it's completed and published. Until then I hope it can gather some final details with a little research

It should be a quick report, a simpler incident than the shed massacre, and already mostly of it we'll need is on file at the posts linked from the masterlist (top link).

I think the cover is done, at left, of course.

Previously called here "the Al Baida massacre," based on vague location understandings, the new name is stronger as well as rhyming. The report will emphasize the apparent Al-Hassadi - and thus Al Qaeda - link. It's a clear link, not even via an affiliated group - he used the training he got from Bin Laden's camps in Afghanistan to capture and execute these soldiers trying to defend their country.

What Needs Gathered
Nothing's really needed at this point, but there are surely some loose ends to be found about, and I will, but if others can help...

The location is one thing I personally gave up on. The Hassadi story has the massacre in or around Makhtoub, just southeast of Dernah (Al Qaeda central, and Hassadi's base). Google maps link, given asMatruba I looked in and around that town , couldn't find. Shouldn'tbe hard, it's barely a town at all. Below are some stitched images and notes I made months ago to convey the compound interior and exterior, for anyone else who wants to take a crack at it. Can anyone even get the sunlight direction here to narrow down if this road is east-west (my best guess) or whatever?

It's a small walled area (walls about six feet high, cinderblock and concrete), with its wall just ten feet off a two-lane paved road. There's little else around, suggesting its a ways outside of whatever town. A dirt trail parallels the road on the opposite side. Scrub prolferates. The hazy weather and weak mid-day light mess up my tricks to establish directions. A few angled trees grow to the right of the entry way, and from a distance we can see three more spindly ones to the left as well. The inside is partly dirt and/or grass, but mostly concrete. It looks like an overly-marked parking lot, a confusing montage of white and yellow lines at odd angles suggesting a lot and a highway or runway were fused together. Inner buildings are only faintly discernable to the right side and the rear. Little else can be told.

49 comments:

  1. some location possibilities ?

    http://www.libyaherald.com/interview-with/

    We had all agreed to set off from the mosques, though which we coordinated with area residents.

    1. So on Friday, we went out immediately after prayers and headed for all security departments in the city. We took control of them. We were also joined by the police force and guards.

    2 .That lasted for about four hours, then we headed for Al-Beyda where there was one of Qaddfi’s brigades called Al-Jareh. We managed to overpower them.

    3. After that we went to Benghazi — that’s where the real battle started.

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    1. Hm, yes... that takes us on a vague journey by people of unknown relation to these events across half the country on unknown days. That's of course the opposite direction we need to go here. But hey, a first comment to start, thanks.

      (I don't think I'll be getting or needing much more for this simpler report, but what the heck)

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    2. It's just a friendly fighter of Dernah, this why I recall him here :

      What they were trying to do is to establish justice.
      For instance, a person whose been known for torturing and killing the Libyan people will be punished.

      Q) Does this mean a person could be executed without trial?

      A) Yes, without trial.

      What will the court do for us! Will it give you your rights! The court will sentence the perpetrator to seven or eight years imprisonment and then he will be set free.

      Do you know that we will be questioned by the martyrs on Judgment Day! They will say to us, “why did you not take back our rights on our behalf?”!

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  2. @ caustic , the place were the victims are murdered could be next to a barrack.
    But it is also possible that they were taken to a city or village with a smal gvt building ,
    same as in vid below @ 1.42 and were slaughtered in the courtyard there:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRgzYVQ_168&feature=player_embedded# !
    Mass grave' discovered in Libyan town /DERNAH

    strange thing : I did find the vid in my files with the copy paste I had done before with a writing beneath the vid :
    / Team Shaheed Muhammad Nbus Media / infidel / Photography and Editing: Faraj Okoider /

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  3. repost this unresolved thing too :

    libyanproud libyanandproud
    #Benghazi : Mass Grave found in #Sultan 120 Km West of #Benghazi . via @AlmanaraMedia
    http://www.libyauprisingarchive.com/61---68-from-a-good-source.html#/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USOr73WMdGY
    Mass graves found in Eastern #Libya www.youtube.com/watch?v=USOr73WMdGY #gaddaficrimes

    مقابر جماعية بالجهه الشرقيه
    Mass graves procuring East
    Uploaded by alhadi20 on Jun 2, 2011
    http://www.libyauprisingarchive.com/61---68-from-a-good-source.html#/

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  4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sznp6JtQRg4
    سالم العوكلي كاتب وناشط مدني من درنة الليبية

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  5. أفاد مصدر أمني ليبي بأن ضابطًا برتبة عقيد انشق عن الجيش وانضم إلى مجموعة من المتظاهرين اتهمها المصدر بأنها "جماعة إرهابية" تضم عناصر في تنظيم القاعدة.
    وقال المصدر الأمني لوكالة فرانس برس دون الكشف عن هويته أن "مجموعة من الشباب القاطنين بمدينة درنة "1200 كلم شرق طرابلس" قاموا الأربعاء باقتحام مسجد الصحابة وسيطروا عليه ثم استخدموا مكبرات الصوت فيه لتأجيج مشاعر السكان وحث المواطنين على العصيان" على حد وصفه في إشارة إلى المظاهرات التي تجتاح مناطق الشرق الليبي وتطالب بإسقاط نظام القذافي.
    وأضاف المصدر أن من وصفها بـ"المجموعة الإرهابية" يقودها "سفيان القومى، السائق السابق لبن لادن وعبد الحكيم الحصادى وأنيس هويدى"، مشيرًا إلى أن هذه العناصر "أفرجت عنهم مؤسسة القذافي منذ أقل من سنة".
    وأضاف المصدر أن المجموعة "اقتحمت الخميس مخزنا للسلاح تابعا لحماية درنة العسكرى وحصلوا منه على 250 بندقية مختلفة الأنواع بعدما قتلوا أربعة جنود داخل مواقعهم وجرحوا 16 جنديا آخر".
    وأضاف أن "عقيدا من ضباط الشعب المسلح (الجيش) اسمه عدنان النويصيري انضم إلى التشكيل وقام بتزويدهم بقاذفة "آر بي جي" وثلاثة رشاشات ام كى و70 بندقية كلاشنيكوف".
    وتشهد ليبيا منذ الثلاثاء تظاهرات مناهضة لحكم الزعيم الليبي معمر القذافي المستمر منذ أكثر40 عامًا، وترد السلطات بقمع هذه التظاهرات بشدة حيث بلغ


    http://www.etr-alislam.com/t7248-topic

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    1. Wednesday they stormed the mosque companions and took them :

      Auto translate link above :
      A security source said that the Libyan colonel who defected from the army and joined the group of demonstrators accused by the source as a "terrorist group" including elements of al Qaeda.

      The security source told AFP, without revealing his identity

      "a group of young people living in Derna," 1200 km east of Tripoli " Wednesday they stormed the mosque companions and took him, and then used the loudspeakers to inflame the feelings of the population and urged the people to insurrection,"


      The source added : "terrorist group" led by "National Sufyan,
      a former driver for bin Laden and Abdullah Hakim Alhsady Howeidi and Anis," pointing out that these persons were "released by the Gaddafi Foundation for less than a year."

      *
      The source added that the group "Thursday [ = 18 FEBRUARY} raided a warehouse belonging to the Army and got guns of 250 different species after four soldiers were killed and 16 soldiers. injured "

      النويصيري عدنان Adnan Alnueasiri
      "The colonel of the officers of the armed people (the army) named ADNAN ALNUEASIRI joined the forming and providing them with the Bakazfah" RPG "and three machine guns and 70 or so Kalashnikov assault rifle."

      Libya is experiencing since Tuesday demonstrations against the rule of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi continued for over 40 years, and authorities are strongly suppress these demonstrations reaching

      *
      Mr. El-Magri said a group of educated men tried to shelter the prisoners inside the mosque and planned to disperse them among safe houses with families in the city.

      Most of them were bundled into vehicles and kept away from the mob, he said, but men in the crowed snatched one of them from the back of a pickup truck. He saw them hang him with rope from a green pedestrian bridge near the mosque.

      http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/a-rebellion-divided-spectre-of-revenge-killings-hangs-over-eastern-libya/article556267/?page=3

      During the Friday prayers after the hanging, clerics spoke out against extra-judicial killings
      City leaders have recently asked Mr. Al-Hasadi, the guerrilla expert with experience in Afghanistan, to take a less prominent role in local defences.

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  6. Inkerman Insights ‏@inkermangroup
    8 june 2012

    #Libya: There are 20 - 30 "hardcore" jihadist fighters around #Derna who cause most concern, including Egyptian jihadists and #AQIM fighers
    Inkerman Insights ‏@inkermangroup

    Senior #Libyan official: Five Islamist militant commanders are operating in camps around #Derna, with 200-300 men under their command

    @PositiveLiby aOne year ago some in Benghazi, even one military official told me there was "alqaida in the green mountains near Derna, but that they first had to win the war against Gaddafi, before they could tackle them

    #Libya: US reportedly flying surveillance drones over suspected jihadist training camps in eastern Libya #Derna

    #Libya: Militant commander Abdulbasit Azuz complained that a drone strike targeted his training camp near #Derna

    http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/07/senior-libyan-official-u-s-deploying-drones-as-concerns-rise-over-al-qaeda-in-eastern-libya/

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    1. Libyan official: U.S. drones seeking jihadists in Libya

      The U.S. flew drones for a while after the NATO intervention in Libya to monitor chemical and biological sites, US military officials tell CNN. But the officials would not comment on whether drone flights were ongoing.

      The senior Libyan official said it would be bad if such a strike had occurred. He added that the Americans' use of drones in a surveillance capacity had been discussed at the top level of the transitional Libyan government.

      As CNN has reported, Azuz is a senior al Qaeda operative and longtime close associate of the group's leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, who was dispatched to Libya from the tribal areas of Pakistan in spring 2011, according to several sources. There, he subsequently recruited fighters.

      Azuz is a veteran jihadist who fought the Soviet-backed government in Afghanistan in the early 1990s, according to several sources. He later to moved to the UK, where he increasingly came on the radar screen of British security services for his radical recruitment efforts in Manchester. In the period after the July 2005 London bombings, he was detained in the Belmarsh high-security prison and placed under a Control order, according to the sources.

      He left the UK in 2009 and traveled to the tribal areas of Pakistan, from where al-Zawahiri redeployed him to Libya to set up a bridgehead for the terrorist group, according to the sources.

      According to one source, Azuz has dispatched men as far west as Ajdabiya and Brega in his attempt to build up al Qaeda operations in eastern Libya.

      According to the senior Libyan official, five radical Islamist militant commanders are operating in the Derna area, with 200 to 300 men under their command in the camps.

      Recently, Libya's grand mufti, Asadiq Gherayli, met with the five militant commanders, and four of them, including Azuz, agreed with the government terms not to carry out attacks.

      Only one refused: Sufian bin Qumu (also known as Abu Faris al Libi), a released Guantanamo detainee who is believed to be operating a camp in the mountainous woods along the sea outside Derna.

      Qumu, 53 is a Libyan jihadist who participated in jihad in Afghanistan in the early and mid-1990s and joined the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group in Sudan in the mid-1990s, where he worked as a truck driver for bin Laden's company, according to a detainee assessment compiled while he was at Guantanamo.

      He subsequently moved to Pakistan and then to Afghanistan, during which time he left the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group and declared allegiance to the Taliban, according to the assessment. He was arrested in Pakistan after fleeing Afghanistan after the fall of the Taliban and handed over to U.S. authorities.

      The assessment described him as having a "long-term association with Islamist extremist Jihad and members of Al-Qaida and other extremist groups.

      http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/07/senior-libyan-official-u-s-deploying-drones-as-concerns-rise-over-al-qaeda-in-eastern-libya/

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    2. see also :

      http://www.medialens.org/articles/the_articles/articles_2002/rk_secret_war.html
      THE SECRET WAR AGAINST LIBYA

      Wikicable : DIE HARD IN DERNA, 2008-06-02

      http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Catherina/716
      Wikicable provide some details. This is just one:
      DIE HARD IN DERNA, 2008-06-02
      National Front for Salvation Libya - financed for years by House Saud, CIA & French intelligence.

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    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifQr62smdTI
      derna inside kufra 2012
      Sam Hameed from the city of Derna "the same city Hana judge"

      http://libyasos.blogspot.com/2012/02/ntc-supports-ethnic-cleansing-of-black.html?spref=tw
      NTC supports ethnic cleansing of black Toubou tribe in Kufra

      In 2008 opposition members living abroad alleged that security forces battled Toubou tribesmen in the southeastern part of the country.
      http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/2010/nea/154467.htm

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  7. Thanks for all this, H. I'll be scanning this for useful leads and assembling the final research pretty soon.

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  8. The house of Musa Ahassi, 1 of Barga Council's military leaders was attacked by a bomb in the city Shahaat today. #Libya #Security /12 Jun 2012

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  9. Ex-Gitmo detainee training Libyan rebels in Derna

    http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2011/04/ex-gitmo_detainee_tr.php

    A former Guantanamo detainee who spent nearly six years in detention at Cuba is training Libyan rebels in the city of Derna, according to The Wall Street Journal's Charles Levinson.

    Sufyan Ben Qumu (whose name has also been transliterated as Sofiane Ibrahim Gammu) was transferred from US custody to Libya in 2007.

    Levinson reports that Qumu, who was imprisoned in Libya after his transfer from Guantanamo, was released by Qaddafi's regime as part of its reconciliation effort with Islamists in 2008.

    However, press reports from August 2010 indicate that he was released last year. [See LWJ report, Libya frees ex-Gitmo detainee.]
    Declassified files produced at Guantanamo point to Qumu's multiple ties to al Qaeda and the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), a known al Qaeda affiliate.

    Qumu, according to The Wall Street Journal, is now "training many of [Derna's] rebel recruits."

    Qumu serves as a rebel commander along with two other jihadists who also fought in Afghanistan.

    One of the two is Abdul Hakim al Hasadi, who was briefly detained by the US in late 2001 before being turned over to the Libyan government. Al Hasadi's role in the Libyan uprising has been widely reported and, according to The Wall Street Journal, he "oversees the recruitment, training and deployment of about 300 rebel fighters from" Derna.
    http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2010/09/libya_frees_exgitmo.php

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    1. http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=30147

      March 23, 2005 /Although LIFG guerrillas still maintain a modest presence in the mountains of northeastern Libya, intelligence cooperation with the United States has enabled the Libyan government to cut off their lines of logistical and financial support.

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  10. Colonel Hamed al Hassi was one of the first commanders to defect from ...


    I live in Shahhat town close to Beatha and Derna

    Al-Hassi: First of all, I'm Hamed Al-Hassi. I live in Shahhat town close to Beatha and Derna. I'm married with five children. We have been under the control of Gaddafi for 42 years. Our Military, the army has tried many times before to change the regime, but considering the strength Gaddafi has, he gave us no chance to do this. /Sat Jul 30, 2011
    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/191551.html

    I had the chance to defect from the Gaddafi regime. So I was controlling the Katiba, so I moved to protect the revolutionaries, if we hadn't defect there would've been a negative effect.

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  11. The new chief of the higher security committee in Derna, Colonel Mohammed Al-Hassi, was assassinated this afternoon when unknown assailants shot him outside a petrol station in the town. He… 2/ 3/2012

    http://www.libyaherald.com/derna-security-chief-assassinated/

    http://miis.academia.edu/EthanApplegarth/Papers/594235/Libyas_Emerging_Rebel_Leadership

    During the year 1984 several spies in the hire of the CIA entered the country for the purpose of carrying out assassinations and stirring up unrest. They came in groups on the following dates: 4 February 1984
    - Fourth group: [Usama Shallouf] , Salem Abdul Sallam Al-Hassi
    http://mathaba.net/info/terror.htm

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    1. Was the killing of al hassi a coïncidence?

      Col. Hamid Al-Hassi, commander of the Cyrenaica Supreme Military Council, made explicit the priorities of the forces:

      “Even if we had to take over the oil fields by deploying our forces there or risk another war, we will not hesitate for the sake of Barqa.” (Associated Press, March 4)

      http://pslweb.org/liberationnews/branches/la/reports/oil-rich-region-of-libya.html

      On March 6, militia commanders and tribal and business leaders held the first “Congress of the People of Cyrenaica” near the city of Benghazi, where they elected a governing council.
      At the head of the council is Ahmed al-Zubair Ahmed al-Sanusi, a direct descendant of King Idris—the pro-imperialist despot overthrown in 1969—and a member of the NATO-installed National Transition Council.

      Mohammed Buisier, a Libyan-American who helped organize the Congress, said that semi-autonomy means that Cyrenaica will be in control of “housing, education and other things and would delegate national security, defense ... to the central government.” (Reuters, March 5)

      Cyrenaica, or in Arabic, Barqa, stretches from the central city of Sirte to the Egyptian border. The region was home to King Idris, and not coincidentally, it is where most of Libya’s oil reserves are located.

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  12. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15582483
    salah al hassi , 2 flags an archaeological director & chosen new intelligence chief
    http://www.tripolipost.com/includes/newsresizedetails.asp?path=24-11-2010-1.jpg
    http://www.tripolipost.com/articledetail.asp?c=7&i=5152

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    1. Correction :

      The lectures - hosted by Dr. Salah Agab, aka Salah al Hassi ,Chairman of the Department of Antiquities


      http://main.omanobserver.om/node/82492
      Salem al-Hassi, who was involved in a bid to assassinate Qaddafi in 1984, was appointed as the intelligence chief at a meeting of the council, NTC member Mukhtar al-Jaddal said.

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  13. Mr. Hami denied any involvement in the recent killings
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/world/africa/11benghazi.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1

    el-Hami, Islamic Martyrs Movement,Mohamed Salem al-Omaish, co-founder of February 17 Movement
    http://www.onislam.net/english/news/africa/454028-islamists-carve-out-place-in-libya-politics.html

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  14. http://www.hobohideout.com/sitemap-alphabet/libya.php
    Alphabetical listing of Cities -- Each link is for 50 CITIES

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  15. DARNAH, Libya — Abdul-Hakim al-Hasadi first took up arms nearly 20 years ago to try to bring Islamic law to Libya. He studied under the Taliban in Afghanistan, and during last year’s uprising he led a local militia council here in a city famous as a cradle of Islamic jihad.

    But now Mr. Hasadi has refashioned himself as an eager politician running for local office, looking to the ballot box to promote his Islamic values. “There is no reason for weapons now,” he said. “Words are our weapons. Politics needs politics. It doesn’t need force.

    When Mr. Qumu appeared on the radio program in January, callers accused him of ordering killings and harboring foreign fighters, and they demanded to know why he had not taken a more active role in civic life like Mr. Hasadi. “What is it about the city that Sheik Sufian doesn’t like?” one asked.

    He pleaded for acceptance, reminding callers of his years in isolation in Guantánamo Bay. “If I speak about it now, you will not hold your tears.”

    He said he did not order killings — “You have to be an emir to give such orders

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/24/world/africa/libya-jihadis-offer-2-paths-democracy-or-militancy.html?pagewanted=all

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  16. As quoted by the Guardian, Amer Saad, a political activist from Derna, told Al Jazeera:

    The protesters in al-Bayda have been able to seize control of the military airbase in the city and have executed 50 African mercenaries and two Libyan conspirators.

    Even in Derna today, a number of conspirators were executed.  They were locked up in the holding cells of a police station because they resisted, and some died burning inside the building.  

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  17. Friday 18 February 2011 /Troops were reported to have landed at Benghazi airport, suggesting a significant move into the city.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/18/libya-protests-massacres-reported

    Security forces were also reported to be preparing to attack al-Bayda after protesters blocked the airport runway to prevent reinforcements arriving, according to one exile group.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BazvS79VB7c&feature=related
    mercenaries in libya arriving to the airport in Libya
    dinapoli123 9 months ago :This video was fake, its libyan citizens from the south that arrived

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  18. I was told by an SNC Lavalin employee who had been at the airport arrivals gate that a plane load of African mercenaries had landed.

    We set up a survey instrument to get a closer look at what was happening around the airport terminal. I could see a large contingent of soldiers (+/- 200) in a defensive pattern around the west side of the runway. We didn’t know if these were mercenaries or Libyan government soldiers.

    http://voices4libya.com/voices-for-libya/read-the-book/benina-airport-project-on-the-outskirts-of-benghazi/

    Suddenly there was a flurry of gunfire and everybody scattered. We told everyone to get back to their cabins and keep out of sight.

    The invaders then proceeded to ransack our offices taking everything including hundreds of computers, furniture, and all our pickup trucks, heavy duty equipment and buses.

    20 February SNC had somebody negotiating with the General who had defected to the rebels’ side and was now directing the defence of the airport.

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  19. UK-based Libyan website www.jeel-libya.net (Libya’s generation) reported earlier that a number of airplanes carrying “African mercenaries” had landed in Mitiga military airport, 11 km east of the capital Tripoli, and they were dressed in Libyan army uniform.

    The website added that some of those “mercenaries” were sent to hot spots in the eastern region were deployed in Tripoli.

    Uploaded by JeelLibya on Feb 25, 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCjyknjSplc

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  20. One of the interesting and very neglected features of the current "humanitarian intervention" in Libya is the extent to which it implicitly buys into racialized nationalist myths produced on the ground in Libya, adopting them without question and thus without concern for context, with little in the way of a critical examination of the media manipulation and calculated spread of racial fear by the leadership of "the rebels."

    It is not a simple matter of the Libyan opposition showing signs of xenophobia -- if that were true, it would resent the involvement of North Americans and Europeans.  Instead, this is a racially selective xenophobia, with a preferential option for Western (i.e., U.S. and European) intervention, and against the presence of "Africans" (code for Sub-Saharan, black Africans)
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27957.htm
    By Maximilian Forte

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  21. some jeel vids :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJGS28rDqfQ&feature=BFa&list=UUa11LfMVCSK4zZ6Y2lXc-tQ
    Eyewitness from USA
    Uploaded by JeelLibya on Feb 28, 2011

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMlmLi5DnYQ&feature=BFa&list=UUa11LfMVCSK4zZ6Y2lXc-tQ
    عقيد ركن رافع محيسن القوات الخاصة بنغازي
    Rafie Muhaisen Colonel Special Forces Benghazi
    Uploaded by JeelLibya on Feb 26, 2011

    Uploaded by JeelLibya on Feb 25, 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUUKsOeP8dg&feature=autoplay&list=UUa11LfMVCSK4zZ6Y2lXc-tQ&playnext=1

    موقع جيل || فيديو : طبرقي منقهر
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCaRU_Tan0M&feature=BFa&list=UUa11LfMVCSK4zZ6Y2lXc-tQ
    Uploaded by JeelLibya on Apr 16, 2010

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  22. And a AJE vid complete with bombastic music :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=fxwOkGaV7K4
    green flags @ 8.14 , hands in blood @ 17.36, hand? @ 17.39,dead soldier,burning cars@ 17.44

    btw : Report #libya : NTC office in #Zawiyah was burned down by Angry militia that weren't paid for months. / 27 june 2012

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  23. get error 503 again, so maybe a double post :

    AJE vid feb 2012 complete with bombastic music :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=fxwOkGaV7K4
    green flags @ 8.14 , hands in blood @ 17.36, hand? @ 17.39,dead soldier,burning cars@ 17.44

    btw : Report #libya : NTC office in #Zawiyah was burned down by Angry militia that weren't paid for months. / 27 june 2012

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  24. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2011/0329/1224293298818.html

    IN A drab villa down a rutted road in Ajdabiya, the key eastern town recaptured last weekend by rebels, sit two leading members of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG).

    In the past, the two men, both grizzled veterans of the 1980s jihad against the Soviets in Afghanistan, would have baulked at the prospect of an interview, let alone given their names or agreed to be photographed.

    “Everything has changed now,” says Abdul Monem al-Madhouni, who wears a scarf in the red, black and green colours of the rebels’ flag over a striped shirt and slacks. “This is a new era and there is no need to hide anything.”

    He and his companion, who gives his name as Abdullah Mansour, sit on the governing council of Libya’s foremost militant group.

    Its members, one of the greatest threats to Gadafy regime since it was set up in the 1990s, run to the high hundreds.

    The two, both of whom recently returned to Libya after years in exile, say they have permission from the 12-member LIFG council to give the interview and what they say reflects its position.

    “We are with the people and we are supporting the people,” says Mansour when asked for the LIFG stance on the revolt against Gadafy’s rule.
    “We have opened our hearts and our hands to all the Libyan people to work together to get rid of Gadafy.”

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/08/26/uk-libya-islamist-idUKTRE77P5XD20110826
    The Libyan Islamic Movement for Change (Al-Haraka Al-Islamiya Al Libiya Lit-Tahghir), is made up of former members of the now defunct Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) that once plotted against Gaddafi from Taliban-ruled Afghanistan.

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  25. Who is the man who standing behind Abdul Hakim Belhadj

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nTMUhV9uMc8/T-zbmlei1rI/AAAAAAAAF_U/J1Wylf20le4/s640/Who+is+the+man+who+standing+behind+Mulla+Abdul+Hakeem+Belhah.jpg

    Is he Colonel / Abdullah Hamad Al-Marri Fetais - Special Forces of Qatar?
    من هو الرجل الواقف خلف المُلا : عبدالحكيم بلحاح - الحاكم باسم قطر في ليبيا-؟
    هو : العقيد الركن/ حمد عبدالله فطيس المري - القوات الخاصة القطرية


    http://libyasos.blogspot.pt/2012/06/lyelec-who-is-man-who-standing-behind.html?spref=tw

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  26. not the right place & time ,but envirement & furniture looks familiair?
    @ 1.47 banks , @ 4.14 courtyard or roof

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqIM-XxDm2g
    upload 19 mrt 2011

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  27. caustic, it's not nesseceralily al qaida did the killing : watch this vid :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRdBkkbVkOQ

    Amateur video supplied by Libyan opposition groups is said to show the moment the army stationed in the Ghar Younis barracks at the outskirts of Benghazi joined the protesters in the city on February 21, 2011.

    ‘Some said the swords belonged to their grandfathers in the First World War,’ said Egyptian waiter Mahmoud El Masri, who witnessed the fighting.

    ‘It was a crazy sight, all these swords being wildly swung in the main street. I was hiding in a cafe but I saw them connect with the soldiers and I heard blood was spilt.

    ‘The men with swords were at the front of the protesters, leading them

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  28. Screenshot: Minute 5:04 of 11:51 min long Video : the man with the white jacket, standing outside where the soldiers are held , also has a long knive

    http://nocheinparteibuch.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/hidden-behind-propaganda-a-giant-crime-against-libya-is-fact-part-i/

    and a man inside too : Screenshot: Minute 4:32 of 11:51 min long Video

    their dressing look like normal citizen people , no dernah green mountain outfit

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  29. Could the anger been fuelled by starting to kill Arab country men? No, this job was after delegated to nato.

    But the racial card , black mercenaries from outside , attacking homes & women was the injection to get the people in a bestial, bloodthirsty , hysterical arousal.

    It happened some years before in Zawya too :
    a black man accused of raping a lady.

    I've met such mob myself one time in Mecca, smoking a cigarette near the ladies toilet ,
    1 man passing by and quickly calling 10 men of his group.I escaped by jumping inside the ladies room.

    Looking at the vid with the citizens with the big blades I can imagine it could have been them who done it.

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  30. The second way of fueling the people was of course the helicopter story :

    ‘The men in them were not from the Libyan army.

    They entered Tajura and attacked all the people with machine guns.

    They were shooting everywhere. Not just at the people in the streets but in their homes.

    I saw lots of people die. There were 250 killed in just a few minutes.’

    Two days later Mr El Mezoghi, who runs a food-importing business and has helped fund the uprising, says he witnessed further carnage, this time in Az Zawiyah, 30 miles away from Tripoli.

    ‘Again we were protesting peacefully, in the centre of the town, when two Toyota Landcruisers turned up with six black men, with scars down their faces.

    ‘The men opened fire again with machine guns.

    This time about 40 were killed and 150 injured. It was another massacre.’

    Last night, it was not possible to verify the details of the alleged atrocities.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361020/Libya-protests-Freedom-fighters-clashed-Gaddafis-army-2ft-scimitars.html

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  31. Thanks never came across the Institute of Development Studies. Close links with the Guardian. (warning bells). Their website only mentions 70 per cent of its funding. (47pc UK Govt) CWN a very strange body. Are the two really connected? IDS Crisis watch doesn't seem to link to CWN

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  32. Are the two really connected?

    http://www.crisiswatch.net/international/LibyanCivilWarLocation.html
    Crisis Watch is a global network of researchers and practitioners with a shared interest in monitoring the on-the-ground impacts of the financial crisis.

    Institute of Development Studies - Crisis Watch
    www.ids.ac.uk/go/crisiswatch -
    Crisis Watch is a global network of researchers and practitioners with a shared interest in monitoring the on-the-ground impacts of the financial crisis.

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  33. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M97HeKNBljg&feature=endscreen&NR=1

    some area views where soldiers were killed :
    white car @ 0.58 ppl involved? what is in front of car & smth on roof or is it a tree more distant? On road @ 2.34 ? other white car @ 3.16 ,3rth white car @3.16 / 3.19 again this object on the road, or more @ 3.20
    smb enters car on right side : was owner of car shot & now laying on the road?
    @ 4.14 it clearly looks like a body
    *
    Before the ceasefire, however, a group of 22 soldiers who broke through the rebels’ barricades near the airport on Feb. 23 seem to have fared worse.

    Residents say the soldiers climbed into three pickup trucks and raced down the highway that winds down the cliffs toward Darna, blasting their way through a rebel encampment along the way. Two revolutionaries were killed.

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  34. The surviving rebels called ahead to warn the city of an impending attack.

    Locals say that a rebel commander named Abdul Hakim Al-Hasadi organized an ambush near the outskirts; the 45-year-old had quickly become a prominent figure among the rebels because of his expertise in guerrilla warfare, which he received at training camps in Afghanistan from 1999 to 2002. (In an earlier interview with The Globe and Mail, Mr. Al-Hasadi declined to say who operated his training camp; al-Qaeda ran camps in the same part of Afghanistan during that period.)
    *
    The rebels caught all 22 soldiers and started transporting them in pickup trucks back to Darna; although seven leapt from the back of the trucks they were recaptured the next morning in a neighbouring village.

    The remaining 15 arrived at the central mosque in Darna, where a large crowed gathered and called for their execution.

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  35. Families that sheltered the prisoners that night remain afraid to speak to the media, fearing retribution. Abdel Gadir, 29, said one of his friends took in a group of prisoners and soon found it difficult to keep them.

    “His door alarm rang in the middle of the night,” Mr. Gadir said. “Men with guns were in the road with covered faces. They told him, ‘Give us those criminals.’”

    The masked men took away the prisoners.
    The next day, Mr. Gadir said he returned home in the evening to his village of Makhtuba, 20 kilometres east of Darna, and found his neighbours upset.

    They had discovered a pile of bodies, apparently executed with gunshots, at a nearby crossroads known as Hisha.

    A local mullah organized a team of men and a backhoe to bury the corpses, he said.

    None of them were willing to talk about the incident on Friday, although a freshly heaped pile of earth remains at the crossroads in the barren scrubland.

    Graffiti scrawled on a nearby wall marks the spot as a resting place for soldiers “killed by Gadhafi,” an explanation repeated by some others in Darna.

    They claim the executed men were killed by their own officers for disobeying orders.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/a-rebellion-divided-spectre-of-revenge-killings-hangs-over-eastern-libya/article556267/?page=3

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  36. @ 4.12 the rebels publicly execute 50 black workers in Dernah, along with 2 police officers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hlOhymEY7c&feature=player_embedded#!

    Rebels also set fire to the police station they overtook , burning about 15 migrant workers alive

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  37. Later on, wonder if these people are still alive?

    Held and interrogated, do these men look like Gadhafi’s mercenaries?

    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01230/SJS16-LIBYA__1230984cl-8.jpg
    (Hussein Malla/AP cell at the court in Benghazi,Libya, Friday Feb. 25, 2011.

    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01230/SJS13-LIBYA__1230985cl-8.jpg
    Suhaib Sale/Reuters,courthouse Benghazi February 25, 2011

    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01230/XHM103-APTOPIX__1230983cl-8.jpg
    Hussein Malla/AP ,Benghazi, Libya, Friday Feb. 25, 2011

    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01230/AKCF101-Mideast_1230962cl-8.jpg

    (Suhaib Salem/Reuters Libyan militia members from the forces against Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi escort a man who they suspect to be a mercenary from Chad, center, after detaining him at a roadbloack near Marj in eastern Libya, Sunday, Feb. 27, 2011.

    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01230/NY823-Libya_Pho_1230941cl-8.jpg

    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01230/AKCF104-Mideast_1230961cl-8.jpg

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  38. Later on : Held and interrogated, do these men look like Gadhafi’s mercenaries? And are they still alive?


    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01230/SJS16-LIBYA__1230984cl-8.jpg
    (Hussein Malla/AP cell at the court in Benghazi,Libya, Friday Feb. 25, 2011.

    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01230/SJS13-LIBYA__1230985cl-8.jpg
    Suhaib Sale/Reuters,courthouse Benghazi February 25, 2011

    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01230/XHM103-APTOPIX__1230983cl-8.jpg
    Hussein Malla/AP ,Benghazi, Libya, Friday Feb. 25, 2011

    *
    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01230/AKCF101-Mideast_1230962cl-8.jpg

    (Suhaib Salem/Reuters Libyan militia members from the forces against Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi escort a man who they suspect to be a mercenary from Chad, center, after detaining him at a roadbloack near Marj in eastern Libya, Sunday, Feb. 27, 2011.

    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01230/NY823-Libya_Pho_1230941cl-8.jpg

    http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01230/AKCF104-Mideast_1230961cl-8.jpg

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  39. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sfpiradio/2012/07/21/update-on-libya

    UPDATE ON LIBYA WITH NEFELI-ALFITORY

    @ 40.29 : 16 february : 3 police stations have been bombed with molotovs, they burned it in the night .
    200 km from benghazi in the east they control some base of the army & transferred the weapons to benghazi

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  40. @ caustic : maybe a wild guess

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6PCuEm67iIU
    @ 3.23 and on

    Un documentaire confirmant que le conflit de la Libye est un complot et non pas une révolution.
    http://www.algeria-isp.com/actualites/politique-libye/201208-A11265/libye-des-nouvelles-libye-occupee-aout-2012.html

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