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Monday, May 21, 2012

Massacre outside the Mosque, Souk al jouma. perhaps. 25 Feb 2011

Only two videos show this same incident. The martyr, whose chin and neck has been well and truly cleaved is described as Yousef Ali Albouni (or variants thereof), 47 or 48 years old, Goatee beard. arabic:يوسف علي البوني
Reference: http://www.ayamnal7lwa.net/forum/index.php?topic=4487.385;wap2 (either Feb 28 or March 1) and reported at Libya Almostakbal only on March 1. However, a blog comment on the latter takes me to a very fast indeed Feb 25 upload,well watched:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR0B9bC0gDs
The video is ludicrously labelled The victim of the shooting This was the time of another video of cleaved, amputated bodies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WulgVSOUVYo."painful scenes from hospitals..>" Another shooting, anyone?
شبكة برق | B.R.Q شبكة برق:أسماء لبعض الشهداء (سوق الجمعة) في مواجهات يوم الجمعة 25.2.2011

1- علي محمد طلحة 50 سنة
2- يوسف علي البوني 47 سنة
3- احمد الصديق بن حامد 18 سنة
4- محمد عباد منبور 48 سنة
5- احمد ابراهيم الشبيلي 18 سنة
6- هشام مصباح طنيبة 25 سنة
7- عبد المولى بن عثمان 38 سنة
8- خالد الشارف ابودراع 45 سنة
9- عبد الرزاق بالحاج 25 سنة
10- الشيخ سالم حسين سلامة الرقيق (امام جامع)
هذا ويوجد عدد كبير من المفقودين

Lightning Network | B.R.Q Network Lightning: the names of some of the martyrs (Friday Market) in clashes on Friday, 25.2.2011
1 - Ali Mohammad Talha 50 years
2 - Yusuf Ali Al-Bouny 47 years old
3 - Ahmed bin Hamed friend 18 years old
4 - Mohammed Abbad Mnbur 48 years old
5 - Ahmed Ibrahim Shubaily 18 years old
6 - Hesham Mesbah Tunaibh 25 years old
7 - Abdul Mawla Bin Othman, 38 years old
8 - Khaled Sharef Abodraa 45 years old
9 - Abdul Razzaq al-Hajj 25 years old
10 - Sheikh Salem Al-Hussein, the safety of the slave (Imam of a mosque)
This is a large number of missing

A few of the names appear at Maktoobblog, some not. Curious that. And of course the list gets longer in the telling, with variants of the same name appearing as separate people.
Curious that none of the other 10 names ever got onto YouTube, if there really were a massacre. There is nothing indeed to connect these different images of the same person with Souk Al-Jouma. It could be anywhere, or any cause of death.
YouTube references:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O3GFUCgfj0 : يف قتل الشهيد البونى في ثورة 17 فبراير في سوق الجمعة uploaded March 1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czO27Ve8bWk Martyr Youssef El Bouni الشهيد يوسف علي البوني 47 سنة uploaded March 3.
So, why the delay with such golden footage for western consumption?
Warning bells from this video, showing actually nothing, purporting to be from 25 February:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6y5x3z0nu4 uploaded by SolidarityLibya on February 27. But what have we about 6.00? A fake trail of blood, a bloodstained jacket...
Certainly some damage to property is apparent , uploaded Feb 25: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS7W2FW0sgk
Another video purports to show martyr no.1 علي محمد طلحة ,Ali Mohamed Talha aged 50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJyPyO8idyI uploaded by, wait for it, QuatchieCanada, on Feb 27. It shows nothing.

One thing is certain. A man with goatee beard got badly chopped up sometime before 1 March. The footage is convincing, unlike that of the SolidariyLibya video, which QuatchieCanada uses, with the name added. (but there's no victim in sight...)
Are those fatal injuries? I guess so. But somehow I don't think he died in that position or even there from the blood distribution. Another and very early Tripoli "massacre" set-up?


  1. Horrific stuff, Felix. I had seen this somewhere - I thinkincluded in an early listing of videos at the Newsweek-connected Daily Beast, showing the Libyan government to be lying butchers.

    As you suggest, it could be sword wielding Islamists.

    In fact, in my opinion, it could be some kind of shrapnel or something that did this, but "Victim of the shooting" is BS said because that's what they were saying was going on - might as well have said victim of the bombing of Souq Al Jumaa.

    A blade seems most likely, especially if the man was already down, laying face-up, and the attacker stood "above" his head, swing down into his chin and neck. The look on his face suggests he felt this blow. Or something else painful, anyway, being dead either by then or shortly after...

    Hey, didn't the sword wielding racist mobs swear the Afro-mercs were hacking people up with swords? This must be the proof.

    So many possible culprits, it's confusing, isn't it? ;)

    Sorry, didn't read the details

  2. Is Souk al Jouma the same place as Friday Market?

    1. That's my assumption and interpretation, Petri.

  3. فى ثورة الشعب الليبي ثورة 17 فبراير وفي منطقة سوق الجمعة أمام مسجد الهنشير قام مرتزقة القذافي بقتل الشهيد على طلحة فاراد صديقه يوسف البونى انقاذه فقتلوه هو الاخر ..اللهم اغفر لشهدائنا وتقبلهم في رحمتك وأذل القذافي وعبيده التابعين له ..
    Revolution of the Libyan people February 17 in the Friday Market in front of the mosque Hinhir mercenaries kill Gaddafi martyr to his friend Joseph Talha Farad Punic killing him, save him is the other ..
    the hero martyr Joseph Pony of the Shatt al-Hinhir market Friday

    [Hanshir Mosque ?]


    1. Nagi Ali Al-Nafeshy from Tripoli martyred on 26/02/2011. His son reading Al-Fatiha on him at Shat Al-Hansheer. #Libya http://pic.twitter.com/mB8c1JwK

    2. Osama Omar Al-Tabal born in 1980 & a father of 4 children. He martyred on 20/08/2011 in Soug Al-Jumaah, Tripoli #Libya http://pic.twitter.com/beS3y8mu

  4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS7W2FW0sgk
    souq al jouma trablus , he says @ 0.50

  5. http://www.antivirusvideos.net/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%A1+%D8%B4%D9%87%D9%8A%D8%AF+%D8%B3%D9%88%D9%82.html
    here y can find many alleged friday [after prayers]victim vids

    1. thanks hurriya - e.g.www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxkXYv5b27A is fake - note gulp of breath at 1.18.
      www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8EuTuYHFrE probably faked.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akv1cICgV-4 is much more interesting....is that the guy with cloven windpipe before the cleaving at the very beginning? And the others look like they have been beaten up by a mob. The results of a riot can be seen in this video, uploaded 26 Feb 2011, with a subsequent procession with rebel flags.

    2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHQWlMCMXF4 uploaded Feb 26 by m17211 is probably fake, showing two people who may very well be alive and kicking.
      The description mentions "one of them on Al Jazeera Yesterday, and
      1. Ali Talha
      2. Mohamed Qnbur (Mnbur above)
      3 Alilh (family) bin Hamed (Ahmed bin Hamed above)
      4. Iussuf Albony
      6 Hisham Tuabagh

    3. And the others look like they have been beaten up by a mob.

      @ felix : here y see a mob
      شبكة برق: شهداء طرابلس وما خفي أعظم
      Killing of innocent people in Libya Tajoura by African mercenaries
      قتل الأبرياء في تاجوراء ليبيا على يد المرتزقة الأفارقة

      see the hate of this man @ 1.12 repeating kafera = non believers= mercenaries
      where are the kafir , sir?

  6. I would like to add a description of Lindsey Hilsum: who says to have seen yellow hats shooting in Benghazi

    Among Gaddafi’s forces that day were a number of black men wearing yellow hard hats, who most demonstrators believed to be mercenaries from sub- Saharan Africa.
    It was the first time I had been told that Gaddafi was using foreign as well as homegrown fighters, something that fueled Libyans’ anger and would store up trouble in the coming months.

    The crowd swelled, and the men in yellow hats began shooting.

  7. Hossam Al-Deen Ehmaida Ali Talha(1980)
    Hossam Al-Deen Ehmaida Ali Talha(1980) from Zawyet Al- Dahmani,Tripoli martyred on 30/4/2011 in Misratah ‪#Libya‬ pic.twitter.com/BJsCj8pR

  8. http://lib2012.maktoobblog.com/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%85%D8%A9-%D9%84%D9%83%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D9%87%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%A1-%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%88%D8%B9-%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A7/



    when looking at the lists one can see that among the martyrs are many from outside, some martyrs died about Nato bombed the wrong ones, some died by car accident.

    I understand now that the people mentioned above are the heroes c the west did say yve right to attack this country & did most with all possible means

    The other party who was so dumb to be loyal to their country nobody need to count or talk about them , but it is estimated that between 50.000 -100.000 lost their lives.

  9. comment about martyr nrs I posted yesterday seems mysteriously to have vanished , so I post it again :




    Of these nrs some seem to been killed by Nato [Oun] , some by car accident

    the committees of the missing have a lot of work to do : searching & identifying 50.000 - 100.000 Libiyans

    1. oh, before not visible , now back again , don't understand it,
      but satisfying to see the tremendous width of a tremendous crime repeated

    2. 338 , 44 , 105 martyrs :

      a new list of missing persons 625

      not sure they count every Libiyan , or just their heroes

  10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=UG&feature=related&hl=en-GB&v=fvo2JuCYEJk
    25 martyrs

    about 180

    Jun 11/"Death toll in the rebel-held city [of Misurata] rises to 31, while fresh clashes erupt in cities of Gadamis and Zlitan."

  11. http://www.facebook.com/MissingInLibya17Feb?ref=ts

    Missing in Libya

    The disclosure of mass graves seems to relate to the aftermath of the battle of Misurata, a decisive rebel victory that took place in May.

    In this context, the graves presumably contain the corpses of government soldiers, although the Misurata Brigade is also widely believed to be responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Tawergha, where thousands of civilians disappeared.

    1. I take here the freedom to recall just some of the other missing too :


      By September, at least 13 mass graves had been found in Libya. ICRC spokesperson Steven Anderson said "more mass graves are being found every week".

      Unidentified bodies were exhumed for burial in unmarked graves.

      There were 12 different such sites in and around Tripoli according to the Geneva-based Red Cross.


      massgrave @ 1.54
      35 people


      In mid-March [2012], a mass grave containing 40 bodies was found at Wadi Rabie near Tripoli


    2. and these unidentified bodies dumped in massgraves :


      More than 200 corpses ,Hundreds of rotting corpses in hospital in Tripoli

      Of unspeakable atrocities in Tripoli told the BBC: More than 200 corpses already in a state of decay have been discovered in a hospital in the Libyan capital,

      A BBC correspondent saw in the halls of the Abu Salim Hospital the bodies of men, women and children. The location was " the most disgusting and frightening," he had ever seen, told reporters Wyre Davies.



      Downstairs, a fighter shoots the lock off the hospital basement and here are scores more bodies.

      Some are Col Gadaffi’s soldiers but another, broken child lies abandoned here too.

      Some were clearly shot dead

    3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTqYbFxBRiM





      According to sources from our correspondent in Tripoli, the death toll in the course of the last week (20-26 August) is of the order of 3000

    4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrZc83I7dII&feature=endscreen&NR=1
      cemetary 7000 loyal victims in Misrata @ 0.55

      the graves presumably contain the corpses of government soldiers, although the Misurata Brigade is also widely believed to be responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Tawergha, where thousands of civilians disappeared.

    5. It was heart wrenching to bury so many in one day.
      One of the other two finds was made in Benjawad, with 105 bodies. The victims reportedly belonged to former Gaddafi soldiers


    6. Resume :
      338 , 105, 45 martyrs & 625 of missing persons

      but more than MORE THAN 50 0000 DEATHS


      who are all these unidentified victims ????


      @ 1.35 Luc Côté OF iNTERNATIONAL cRIMINAL cOURT , will look after the massive crimes :


    7. http://ar-ar.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=188505071227119

      17/10/2011 detect new / names of the missing and dead customers NATO and the worshipers of the cross and banners of the Cross campaign ......

      Names of the carcasses of rats on the fronts were buried in the valleys after burning
      and they were afraid of their parents
      and they said to their parents that they Mvkaddon Glenoid hidden
      but their bodies were burned by the rebels and NATO Bdvenhm even dead IGC not spared from the burning of the features of wasted bodies and not to question their parents to the Council for what was burning and in order to Aiga members of the Interim Governing Council in Libya under war crimes

      But it is already signed and it has Whoever sheds the blood of soldiers, or follow the Council and the Council has missed the retaliatory provision burned and buried in the Libyan desert and the God that you do not get them to ship from NATO ships and make them food for fish

      The narrative of the facts and our duty to expose the conspiracies of the honest Arab and international organizations and the Arab League, which fell are not missing, but the Council also called burnt their bodies

  12. critical view now in arabic :

    The Libyan Civil War: Critical Views: Massacre outside the Mosque ...
    4 days ago – شبكة برق | B.R.Q شبكة برق:أسماء لبعض الشهداء (سوق الجمعة) في مواجهات يوم الجمعة 25.2.2011 1- علي محمد طلحة 50 سنة 2- يوسف علي البوني 47 سنة ...

    1. http://www.flickr.com/photos/brqnetwork/

      seems very pro rebel & while crying about copyrights they spread this blog without asking permission

    2. Facebook pages such as B.R.Q News Network (brq is Arabic for "lightning bolt") have arisen to inform expat Libyans about relatives, coordinate relief efforts and safety information, and send news back and forth.

    3. wonder who is behind this organisation :

      Lightning network | BRQ Lightning:: Libya:: UNICEF | | according to figures from the International Organization for Migration


      Pat Noxon ,BRQNEWS Lightning network. BRQ,# Yemen Lightning | Ham | Aden tomorrow - Sources: Israeli arms smuggling vessels of the Government of Yemen in the Gulf of Aden
      October 27, 2011 at 5:27pm

  13. http://forhomesecurity.net/homes-security/a-double-agent-in-gadhafi-camp/

    -He is Mahmoud Ben Jumaa, a comparison executive in Col. Gadhafi’s personal security force.



  14. @ felix :
    A man with goatee beard got badly chopped up sometime before 1 March
    a guess , could he have been a loyalist?

    221. Ezzeddine Hinhiri Tajoura van de Immigratie-Department of Homeland Security Tripoli
    عزالدين الهنشيري ـ من تاجوراء ـ إدارة الجوازات ـ الأمن الداخلي ـ 221
    Ezzeddine Hinhiri Tajoura of the Immigration Department of Homeland Security
    نرجو ان تطلبوا من ثوار 17 فبراير وكل احرار ليبيا ان يجمعوا اسماء مجرمي النظام طيلة 42 سنة لكى تعمم الاسماء فى المطارات والحدود لكى يحاكموا فى ليبيا وكل زبانية سجن بوسليم و7 ابريل واللجان الثورية وعصابة التصفية فى الخارج والحرس الثوري اللجان الثورية.
    قائمة أسماء المطلوبين للعدالة
    We hope to ask the February 17 rebels and all are free to collect the names of criminals of system for 42 years in order to circulate the names at airports and borders in order to be tried in Libya : all the angels of Abu Salim prison and 7 April and the Revolutionary Committees and the gang liquidation abroad and the Revolutionary Guards Revolutionary Committees.
    List the names of Wanted

  15. adds nothing new I think : yr al bony @ 7.53 in a rebel glorification vid :


    1. Thanks! That's a really terrible film. BTW who's that at 3.30? Haven't seen him before - looks in a bad way, but sitting up straight...

    2. must keep street , door & blue car in mind from @ 3.07

      looking at the vid ,rebel vids came in my mind of benghazi & tripoli before , where y could see different groups , some with green head scarfs ,where every victim was presented as a rebel martyr

    3. benghazi some with green head scarfs :

      green shawl at right @ 1.38

      [SAVE-LIBYA] Gaddafi's Militia Fire On Funeral Killing Mourners


      Uploaded on Feb 21, 2011
      Video made by the LibyanYouthMovement and LibyansRevolt.
      green shawl @ 3.24



      [SAVE-LIBYA] Libyans In Support Of The Demonstrations Escape Confinement
      defecting army @0.21 or army escaping from knives?
      green head shawl @ 0.25
      knives @ 0.34

      benghazi 18 feb 2011 Dead Soldiers From Battle

  16. http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=218883528135917
    TRIPOLI UPDATE - 28th MAY 2011 via @Niz_FGM #Libya
    by Libya Outreach Group on Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 2:56pm ·
    Went to rally for ex-LIFG leader now elex candidate AbdelHakim Belhaj yday. Crowd smaller than expected given it was his home area SuqalJuma, 29 6 2012
    Inkerman Insights ‏@inkermangroup
    #Libya: Sources say #Belhadj’s Alwatan Party is backed financially by Qatar, & party members in Tripoli have posted ads for #Qatar Telecom

  17. Yousef Ali Albouni might be a tubuly : listen @0.09


    [SAVE-LIBYA] Another Martyr After Friday Prayer In Souq Aljum'uah (Friday Market)
    Uploaded on Feb 25, 2011

    #Tripoli #Libya : GNC Pres Mohamed Magarief condemned kidnapping
    of Dr Hamid Ahmed Hamid Tubuly, a leading activist during the 2011 uprising
    5 december 2012 : freed early this morning : @2011feb17
    Hamid Al-Tubuly


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