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Wednesday, March 28, 2012

See-Through Salem: Al Farjani Hits the Big Time

January 7, 2012
(incomplete - last edits March 28)

<< See-Through Salem: Dr. Salem al-Farjani Or, What Ever Became of Dr. Rajub? 

By November 2 at the latest, our missing persons and massacres expert, Dr. Salem al Farjani, was the acting chairperson of the National Missing Persons Commission. On this day, none other than UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon visited the shed massacre site,  and his tour guide was Dr. al Farjani. He deciphered for him the large-scale Gaddafi regime massacre he has now been caught lying, and apparently helping others lie, about having witnessed. From a UN press release:
The Secretary-General then visited a mass-grave site near the capital and met with the survivors and families of victims of a massacre that had been carried out by the Khamis Brigade 
After being briefed on the incident in the warehouse by Salem al Ferjani, the acting Chairperson of the National Missing Persons Commission, the Secretary-General told the group he was profoundly shocked by what he had seen and heard. He said the perpetrators of all such human rights crimes should be brought to account. 
Hopefully he'll get another shock soon. One photo linked at the PR shows about ten of these survivors Moon met, none of whom looks obviously familiar from the August batch. Another UN photo shows al Farjani himself, full body, standing with Moon inside the warehouse his alter-ego had visited at least once.

We see here that he's not tall, perhaps a bit leaner than before, and sporting the beginnings of a nicely gray beard. This, as we'll see, was the start of his new, famous-and-not-quite Dr. Rajub look, along with always pointing his chin down, eyes up at militia commanders and Koreans alike. It's apparently the chin he's trying to hide more than anything.

I found an account of Moon's visit from the other side at the Facebook page of the association of holocaust survivors of Yarmouk. Google translated from the original Arabic (goofy parts intact):
...the delegation to listen to the survivors of the Holocaust on how to get the crime. The Alovdayda to listen to the demands of the families of the victims and survivors, which was applied material and moral support by UN agencies to the affected people. He also asked the people to open the tomb, which buried the bodies were burnt with the support of the UN discernible DNA samples where it is difficult discernible such samples. Students as well as urban residents unzip frozen funds for the benefit of the Transitional National Assembly in order to be compensation for the victims of crimes of Gaddafi. [any money if it was a TNC crime and these people aren't the real victims?]

Dr. Salem has Ferjani arranging to meet the delegation of the UN victims' families and survivors. And Dr. Salem with Mr. Secretary-General in this regard and has toured the scene of the crime and informed him of what happened in the prison.

The Association thanks all of the Delegation of the United Nations as well as the delegation of the National Commission to identify the bodies
[Dr. Salem] and tracing of his interest in this subject.
An excellent find from contributor Felix will start the other half:

Dr. Salem al Farjani, left, and Luis 
Moreno-Ocampo, right (Nov. 23, 2011)
It's a Reuters video, Dr.Salem al Farjani (left), apparently, giving a guided tour to none other than ICC chief prosecutor Luis Moreno Ocampo! The video can be seen here. It's for sale, and the preview is not great, squished format. This is stretched a bit at left, in a cropped view. The video's better than that, the subjects are just in the background, with one other guy's face filling half the screen) It's not around anywhere else I could find easily (I tried the on-screen serial number, and it only refers to this ITN source video and two cached versions of the same page).

The description says:
The International Criminal Court's (ICC) chief prosecutor visited a military base on the outskirts of Tripoli on Wednesday (November 23) where the charred remains of 53 people were found after the fall of Tripoli to rebel fighters.
Luis Moreno-Ocampo, who is visiting Libya for talks with authorities after the capture of Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, met families of those killed by loyalists of Muammar Gaddafi at the Khamis 32 military base.

Moreno-Ocampo said the ICC was still investigating the alleged crimes committed by Saif al-Islam and other members of the former regime.
"We are still investigating, that's why I'm here. We are still investigating the crimes and eventually, if there are no security problems, we can pass to them everything we have. Because, in fact, many of them, as today, they are helping us to collect the evidence. So I think it's important to understand for Libya this is crucial, and for our rules, they can do it. But of course all is subject to the ICC judges' authorisation," Moreno-Ocampo told reporters after seeing some of the charred remains.
(skin perhaps, and other charred debris, not the actual bodies, which were removed almost three months prior)

Dr. al Farjani isn't named nor undeniably recognizable here, except in his spot at Ocampo's right side in that charred old shed, like when Moon visited. But this is the first time we can do any voice verification. It's very brief, and he has his back to the camera, just outside the shed. He says the families want the truth about the massacre, and survivors too, and he says it in the exact voice of "Dr. Salim Rajub" speaking in English to Sky News about actually hearing and seeing it happen. And it's probably the voice of "Ahmed al Farjani," the construction worker who sheltered escapee Atiri, right before "Dr. Rajub" brought Atiri to Sky News with him, standing on his right side.

Recall that Dr. Salem told Sky News the ICC and Moreno-Ocampo needed to investigate this Loyalist crime, and the witness he coached, Mustafa el-Hitri, says he saw Khamis personally walk into the compound and give some kind of order just before the massacre.

A Profile Article and Human Rights Consultations
Then there was a December AP article publicizing Dr. al Farjani and his struggle, and his help to Physicians for Human Rights to understand the crime (forthcoming ...) If he's nominated for a nobel prize or some such for his work exposing the "holocaust," that too will be added here.

For now, see the AP article and my post on the PHR report he advised on.

March 28: A video of Moon and Farjani and some victims and family.

Bashir Mohammed at 1:10?


  1. Here is the missing photo of ICC prosecutor Luis Moreno Ocampo visiting Libya. (number 8/10 of the set)

    Hague prosecutor seeks fair trial for Gadhafi son
    Associated Press, November 23, 2011

    The photo is also somewhere in this set of 300 NATO propaganda photos.

  2. Thought he might at least have put a neck tie on to meet Ocampo. But at least he isn't wearing that blue t-shirt.

  3. I think you will be able to get pretty well anything to fit from now on:
    Libya's interim interior minister Fawzi Abdelali had said last week that 50,000 of former rebels will be integrated into security forces in the near term.AP, 6 December 2011

  4. A new article about your doctor has just been published in the Tripoli Post. I guess they haven't seen this site and don't realize some people have questions about the dear doctor.


  5. Thanks, that's interesting. It's nothing new, except in the publishing there. It's a simmered-down version of the Nov. 30 Gera piece where the similarity to "Dr. Rajub" was least clear, but where Eddie saw it anyway. That they chose to finally run it only now, where their odd piece about "Salim" can be found, and then all our stuff a Google search away, might be fortuitous.

  6. @Adam - is this the photo you referred to from the press conference over the "camel bones"? [Salim al-Furjani] Notice same spelling as in the Sheikh in Yarmouk

    1. @Felix, NO! That's new! I'm such a nerd to get excited. I had only this screen cap from this video. Will be adding this soon.

    2. Some better shots of the press conference of the "Technical Committee" perhaps, including Salim, in this Al Jazeera news clip اكتشاف مقبرة لضحايا أحداث سجن بوسليم, Discovery of a cemetery for Abu Salim victims.

  7. I keep listening to the reports speak about getting free online grant applications so I have been looking around for the top site to get one. Could you tell me please, where could i find some?
    Spode Woodland Turkey Sauce Boat and Stand

  8. Replies
    1. Which Bashir? Or do you mean PHR's "Omar?"

    2. Mohammed Bashir is sitting right there. I think the date on the video must be wrong, surely it is 11 2 2011, i.e Nov 2. I don't think Ban Ki Moon visited twice.

    3. Yeah, Mohammed Bashir, not Bashir Mohammed al-Siddeq/Sedik/Germani. Though I've gotten got them mixed up, they do look quite similar, and I'm wondering... they both mention escaping through the hole, don't they?

    4. not sure y are talking about the people in vids below :
      @ 1.26 Bashir al Sadat

      0.58 Sadiq

    5. The visit of Ban Ki Moon was unannounced, so one reads. Yet both Salem Al Ferjani and Bashir Mohammed can be rounded up at a moment's notice together for a meeting at Qasr bin Ghashir. Funny,that. Are they closely associated?

    6. But Mohammed Bashir and Bashir Al Sadeq (Susan Ormiston video above) are the same person.

    7. http://i39.tinypic.com/zk48px.jpg

    8. Thank's Hurriya for the video links. Both videos clearly show the same man, shown in the photo on the page on Mohammed Bashir. He speaks to Susan Ormiston in the video from August 28th, and is clearly referred to as Bashir el-Sedik.

      Libyan massacre site
      Charred bodies were discovered in a Tripoli warehouse in an apparent mass execution by pro-Gadhafi forces, Susan Ormiston reports.
      Date: 29/08/11 Views: 3797

      The second video on YouTube shows him with Moktar Mahmoud Zedan on August 27th!

    9. I got some better screen grabs and I agree Mohammed/Bashir/Omar is all one guy with numerous stories. CBC early afternoon the 28th, I agree -angle of light just about straight in the door, azimuth about 200-220.

      Anyway, this definitely adds something I'll have to add to the dang report. Another post maybe, groan... I must be needing sleep. Later.

  9. Great work, Caustic, on that perp Bashir. I wondered if he was with Ocampo on Nov 23 but no such luck. However, did you notice the strange floor marker around 0.11 in that ITN Salem - Ocampo video? Also, around 0.30, Salem intercedes on behalf of a man with greying beard, no doubt a plant, to the left of Salem, saying "he want to know the fate of his son(s?) whether he's(?) killed here or survivor(s?)" Ocampo replies something like "Can you record the bodies?"

    See also Getty photos 10, 11 and 12 from daylife showing Salem with Ocampo. The best ones are in full size here and here

    1. Thanks Petri - I notice that there is a barely audible simultaneous translation in English in the background of the Ban Ki Moon video. The two mature men either side of Bashir (wonder if Bashir also gave witness, I bet he did...) seem to be retelling their stories, prompted by Salem. The first seems to mention blindfolding twice and name checks Bashir at one point.A translation would be informative.

    2. Some additional photos of Salem with Ocampo on this associated daylife page

  10. I am also looking for footage and photos relating to the visit of the UN Envoy to Libya appearing at the Yarmouk shed, as noted in this piece in Jadaliyya,the ezine of the Arab Studies Institute ,
    On 21 November 2011, US Ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, went to Tripoli to visit a warehouse that the Qaddafi regime had used as a prison and torture chamber (similar to those utilized by the United States and United Kingdom for their al-Qaeda “detainees” outsourced to Libya). She rightly called the warehouse “an atrocity committed by the Qaddafi regime, as it was collapsing.” But Rice said nothing about atrocities committed by NATO and/or Libyan rebels.
    As ABC also reported, Rice visited a warehouse that was converted into a prison and torture room, calling it “an atrocity committed by the Qadhafi regime as it was collapsing.”
    “The stench of death & cruelty was pervasive,” she tweeted.
    While there Rice met with former prisoners and families of the missing and dead.
    [shepherded by whom, one wonders....]

    Rice reported to the UN a week later: on her visit, in Tripoli, [to] two very important sites. One was the site of a major massacre committed by Qadhafi forces on the eve of their retreat from Tripoli, where over 100 people were killed by grenades and bullets and then their bodies burnt to death in a small warehouse no larger than the consultations room in which we were meeting. (the other site was a shanty town for between 600 and 1000 African migrants on the outskirts of Tripoli)

    1. It would seem that there is none. Strange.

    2. @ felix :
      @ 0.40 the man Moreno speech in corinthia fundaq
      watch 1.07 mohamed milad ,Tripoli resident

      utilized by the United States and United Kingdom for their al-Qaeda “detainees

      does uglyhadj look broken and tortured?

      Anyway US got some reliable allies :


      Exiles Return to Libya Contentiously
      "But since then, the number of NTC members has grown and the unity has disappeared as everyone wants his chunk of the cake.

    3. Cool finds, Felix. Would she have felt the same if she knew what we do, that this stench of evil rose from the rats under commission of Uncle Sam? How do "bodies" get "burned to death?" She sounds kind of confused there. Not the first time.

      Rice:"So, these African mercenaries, big black men, sent to rape, given Viagra... you have some of them in custody, right?

      Minder: Of course, many of them. They're awaiting trial.

      Rice: Could I um... meet some of them? Maybe two or three? Private cell?

  11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ct-Rd1fFE4&feature=player_embedded

    Ban Ki-moon during his visits to Libya late last year 11/12/2011

    stadium Khalid meets Aoun, head of the local council bin Ghashir Palace in Yarmouk Holocaust

    بان كي مون اثناء زياراته ليبيا نهاية العام الماضي 11/12/2011 يلتقي بالاستاد خالد عون رئيس المجلس المحلي قصر بن غشير في محرقة اليرموك

    بالاستاد خالد Khaled stadium

    عون رئيس المجلس المحلي قصر بن غشير في محرقة اليرموك Aoun, head of the local council Palace Ben Ghashir at Yarmouk Holocaust

    1. the grey man in this vid is also to be seen in ;


  12. 2 massacres seems to mix together.

    looking at the few survivors here , one wonders to which massacre they belong : yarmouk had 23 survivors ? and qasar bin ghasir 75 - 6

    @ 3.44 : note the translator at Moon's side , at once nobody speaks English

    @ 4.03 : does the man , i presume it is Aoun,head of the local council bin Ghashir Palace say : Saief [zeef] Bashir?

    @ 4.17 , pointing, he names another one.
    Can smb hear exactly who? It is the man @ 4.20/@ 4.33 en profile/ clearly a survivor telling his ordeal

    @ 5.06 : watch our rajub ferjani : from the beginning I did doubt it was him : he has a different figure and different hair.

  13. witness : abdel hadhi bishweya
    Former detainee Abdelhadi Bishweya spent 50 days there


    0.22 several men held @ the base
    LIBYA UN Ban Ki-Moon Doesn't Tour Ethnically Cleansed Tawergha Or Condemn Black Persecution

    felix comment in http://libyancivilwar.blogspot.com/2011/11/tripoli-massacres-shed-massacre.html?showComment=1326156917777#comment-c215404691814995442

    Very strange detail noted in Richard Spencer's piece 28 August, Daily Telegraph

    The shed's inmates were certainly a motley collection. Mr Kabir was a casual labourer. Tucked in alongside him was a judge, Abdul Hadi Abusheiwa, arrested in May because of his ties to Mustafa Abdul Jalil, the head of the rebels' National Transitional Council.

    He was released in July, but had returned to see what happened afterwards.

    He [Khaled Kabir] pointed to the corner where inmates had been strung up to be whipped.

  14. The survivor lists are so choppy/wavy/sliding :


    Libya Massacre de la base de Yarmouk en Libye

    What Happened at Yarmouk


    BUT :

    Ragai, Jalal, Jamal

    Formerly known as Jamal Al-Ragai (per Mr. Worth's last article), and presumably Lt. Col. Jamal Rabbani (who spoke to Alex Loyd), both onetime shed massacre prisoners, with Ragai at least transferred to and escaped from the nearby Qasr Ben Ghashir prison.

    Many of the brigade’s current members are either former prisoners of Yarmouk or the relatives of men who were killed there.

    I met Ragai in a reclaimed Intelligence Ministry barracks in Tajoura, an eastern suburb of Tripoli. He had a militia of about 70 men, many of them veterans of bloody street battles in Misrata and other towns

  15. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LTkzfRrtkpQ/TlMOqhh4uXI/AAAAAAAABEQ/n1JGkTRaJL4/s1600/tripoli+jails.jpg
    tripoli prisons

    Held in Jalal’s base in the Tajoura neighborhood :

    The three men responsible for Omar’s death were all now living one floor below us :

    -Marwan :
    Nasser Salboha : ‘Your cousin [ Marwan] killed six very qualified people whom Libya will need, two doctors and four officers. One of them was my brother.’

    Marwan insisted on standing firm and carrying out Hamza Hirazi’s orders to kill the six men.
    Marwan explained that the Yarmouk prison commander, a man named Hamza Hirazi, ordered him by phone to execute six prisoners, including Omar and several officers who had been arrested for helping the rebels.
    “We brought them from the hangar and put them in a small room,” he said when I pressed him for more details. “The killing happened with a light weapon. We closed the door and left.”

    -the other two guards fired only after Marwan emptied two clips from his AK-47.

    -Naji Najjar : guard together with Marwan Gdoura in Yarmouk acc NYT piece :

    They had all fled right after the execution. Naji Najjar left with another guard before it even started.

    Marwan fled with about 200 soldiers under the leadership of Khamis el-Qaddafi,

  16. Misrata , a prison

    Ibrahim Lousha,the most notorious torturer at Yarmouk.held by one of the brigades in Misurata


    He told me that on the day of the massacre, a commander named Muhammad Mansour arrived late in the afternoon and ordered the guards to kill all the prisoners in the hangar.

    The other guards had the grenades. I told them, ‘Give the grenades to me.’ ” He threw two into the hangar, one after the other, and the door blew open. He could hear the screams of the dying prisoners.
    Marwan explained that the Yarmouk prison commander, a man named Hamza Hirazi, ordered him by phone to execute six prisoners, including Omar and several officers who had been arrested for helping the rebels.

    “We brought them from the hangar and put them in a small room,” he said when I pressed him for more details. “The killing happened with a light weapon. We closed the door and left.”

  17. qasir bin ghasir :

    Naji Najjar /he had used a pipe or a hose when he gashed Jalal’s forehead back in July.

    So this must have happened in qasir bin ghasir prison then, where to Jalal was transported

    Naji Najjar , yarmouk, guard together with Marwan Gdoura :acc to NYT piece :

    They had all fled right after the execution. Naji Najjar left with another guard before it even started.

  18. 21 august :
    In a sense, Ragai was lucky: he was transferred from the Yarmouk prison, where the massacre later took place, to a smaller jail not far away, on the grounds of a construction company.

    He was there on the evening of Aug. 20, when the uprising broke out in Tripoli.

    Early on the morning of Aug. 21, the guards opened the door of the cell next to Ragai’s and led out six prisoners.
    Minutes later, the men heard gunshots.
    The six men were being executed

  19. 24 august :Qasr Ben Ghashir military camp

    On 24 August: According to Amnesty International, Dr. Darrat was one of the numerous detainees killed in cold blood at two military camps in Tripoli on 23 and 24 August.

    They included three men from Zliten, a town between Tripoli and Misratah, and two doctors. One of the doctors is Ali Darrat.

    24 august : Omar Salhoba
    the other inmates. Whenever they were tortured, they would be brought to his cell so he could treat them.

    Omar was "revered at Yarmouk for his insistence on treating injured fellow prisoners/He was there ‘til the end

    on Aug. 24, Nasser got a call telling him Omar had been shot in the Yarmouk prison. Gunbattles were still raging in the streets, and Nasser searched for more than a day before a rebel showed him a picture of his brother’s bloodied body.

    Brazilian company's corporate complex in Qasr bin Ghashir.

    The names of the dead from [Mnfdan (?)]:

    Six bodies of martyrs were recovered by the fifth column at the location of the Brazilian company's corporate complex in Qasr bin Ghashir.

  20. which prison :

    “They almost killed us in that room,” Jalal said.
    Jalal,had taken them [torture tapes]from the ransacked offices of Hamza Hirazi, the commander at Yarmouk.
    One night Jalal drove me to his house in Tajoura, not far from the base. Jalal set a dusty laptop on the edge of one of the couches. The screen lit up, revealing a small room with a brown leather desk chair.


    The man guarding Hirazi runs a large brigade of men from the Nafusah Mountains, three hours southwest of Tripoli. His name is Eissa Gliza, and his brigade is based in one of Tripoli’s wealthiest neighborhoods, in a flamboyant villa that used to belong to Qaddafi’s sons.


    Unknown prison

    Ibrahim Sadeq Khalifa ,Mansour [mohamed] Daw

    The prison where Khalifa is being held was an administrative building under the Kadhafi regime.

    The prison also has a few “high-profile” inmates, like Mansour Daw, Kadhafi’s internal security chief.

  21. Afterward, he drove us to another intelligence building :

    Jehad Nga Soon after we arrived, the photographer that I was traveling with,
    Jehad Nga,
    recognized the place. He had been held there in March when Qaddafi soldiers detained him for three days, subjecting him to brutal beatings and endless questioning from officers who insisted he was a spy.

    Published: September 21, 2011 /ROBERT F. WORTH : On the evening of Aug. 23, during the final hours of the battle for Tripoli, a 26-year-old lawyer named Mustafa Abdullah Atiri was lying, exhausted, against the back wall of a filthy tin-roofed warehouse crammed with 150 prisoners.I first met Atiri four days later.=27aug

    Omar guided us through the complex, pointing out a rest house where he said Moussa Koussa, who ran the spy agency from 1994 to 2009, would sometimes play the Arabian lute for fellow officers

    musa kusa center, tajoura , april 2011

  22. Does Nga know Jalal Ragai , the Qasr Ben Ghashir prison survivor? :

    Jehad Nga for The New York Times
    Jamal al Ragai helped organize early rebel actions in Tripoli.





    Jehad Nga for The New York Times /Video stills of, clockwise from top left, Hamza Hirazi,
    the commander who oversaw the torture at Yarmouk; a prisoner being interrogated; an interrogator; and a prisoner who was later killed.

    By ROBERT F. WORTH/Published: May 9, 2012

  23. Marwan Gdoura descents from Surman/Sorman :

    A day later, he arrived in his hometown, Surman

    "It's not known where these men are now," says the former interior ministry officer-turned-rebel Abdel Karim Gadoora, staring off a discreet balcony, where his colleagues used to watch Green Square
    Omar’s fellow prisoners from Yarmouk told me he was always trying to contact Ghaddour, whom he saw as a possible savior. One was his closest colleague, a doctor named Mahfoud Ghaddour.

    1. Ghaddour


      The armed group holding Dorda at the time was the Abdul al-Ati Gadur Brigade from Ruhaybat, Dorda’s small hometown in the Western Mountains.

      The brigade, commanded by Mahmood al-Wahaj, said that Dorda had jumped from the window in an attempt to escape.
      The Abdul al-Ati Gadur Brigade arrested Dorda at his home in Tripoli on September 11

  24. Hamza Haziri? Or [5) Hamza Abmana – "حمزة الصرماني" – follower of Mohamed Mansour Dou ]

    Re Hamza- Petri also used auto-translate. It is wrong. The name is Hamza Al-Surmani (I initially thought Al-Sermani).


    The arrest of the offender dog symbolic Mukhtar - accused of Holocaust Yarmouk camp - one population - Tripoli - Palace bin Gasheer - Alcaikh
    Published on Apr 4, 2012 by 100AGAGE

    القبض على المجرم الكلب رمزي مختار - متهم بمحرقة معسكر اليرموك - احد سكان - طرابلس - قصر بن غشير - الكايخ

    a three-day battle for control of the nearby international airport.= 24 aug

    A phalanx of 40 pick-up trucks armed with anti-aircraft weapons and heavy machine guns and brimming with fighters drove out of Tripoli in the early afternoon to join units in Qasr Ben Ghasir, located approximately 30 miles south of the capital.

    The rebel-led Tripoli brigade launched a fresh offensive Saturday [ 27 aug? ]in a southern suburb, mopping up pockets of pro-Gadhafi fighters who are believed to have retreated there after a three-day battle for control of the nearby international airport.

    طحالب منطقة قصر بن غشير يخرجون بالعلامات الخضر 4 - 6 - 2012

    Ben Palace Area Ghashir algae Greens signs out

  25. Some engineers :

    a Bashir relative ?


    Wall Street Journal released this article on the ‘’hijacking of the Gaddafi’s phone network’’ - this is an excellent example of just how influential, educated, and talented our Libyan brother’s and sister’s are.

    I would personally like to acknowledge Mr. Mohammed Al Darrat and Mr.Fred Wolfson, and Ousama Abushagur for their hard work and critical roles in the re establishments of communication networks for the New Libyan Telecommunications system….*round of applause and mashallah* -- #WSJ http://on.wsj.com/hxILqD
    April 13, 2011 at 7:41am · 3


    Abdel Hamid Darrat , The electrical engineer, a Canadian citizen
    Just like his brother Dr. Ali Darrat, he was detained back in March, and killed this week in Tripoli.

    “He was just helping people,” Ahmed Hussein said about his friend of more than 20 years.
    The electrical engineer, a Canadian citizen, once attended the University of Ottawa and ran a Tripoli-based telecommunications company, providing IP addresses for Internet users.


    Ahmed Hussein Al-Darrat – Internal Affairs and Local Government
    The new government's interim interior minister Ahmed Darrat

  26. another engineer : the local computer engineer ,Abdel Hamid , was alive in the Mansour vid, in the BBC vid @ mitiga hospital [ where al hadi/swayi gave acte de présence] and in a yarmouk shed vid

  27. The massacres go now in acceleration : the uproar 1996, prisoners took guards as hostages and their rifles and in the fight 487 people are assumed to have died . HRW say a list is never provided appears as :
    When the Prisoners Become the Guards

    Why is Hamsa here? "I was one of the prison guards who participated in the incidents at Abu Salim," he says. "I also took part in the shootings, at the command of Abdullah al-Senussi and the prison director. I didn't count how many people I killed. They gave us new weapons. I just fired." Hamsa speaks in the soft, monotonous voice of a man who has spent 16 years justifying his actions to himself.

    Did he torture inmates? Gwaidar's eyes flit nervously back and forth. He tries not to look at Hamsa, and yet he can't help but look at his smiling face. "I always tried to be nice," says Hamsa. "I wasn't one of the bad ones. I don't remember having tortured anyone. If I did, I'm sorry."

    Gwaidar gets a drink of water, sinks down onto the sofa and tries to look detached. "I forgive you," he suddenly bursts out.

    "But you did commit torture! You tortured him!" says Khalil, barely able to control his fury.


    Their first conversation is short. "Do you remember?" Gwaidar asks. Hamsa shakes his head. Gwaidar shows the prisoner his hands, but Hamsa stares at the floor. Gwaidar goes down on his knees, bends forward, holds his hands behind his back and then stands on tiptoe.

    "This is what you did to me. This is how I was hanging for 10 days," he says loudly. Now Hamsa is looking at Gwaidar's wrists, which are encircled by a straight line, as if someone had tried to cut off his hands. "I knew that you would come to get me one day," he says. And then he starts to cry.

  28. The torture stories could have their origin in :


    Once back in Libya, Belhaj said, he was kept in isolation and tortured by Libyan intelligence.
    This is consistent with Clive Stafford Smith's description of an interrogation by Libyan intelligence agents of his client Omar Deghayes at Guantánamo Bay.
    Stafford Smith wrote that the Libyan interrogators showed Deghayes pictures of two prisoners they identified as Sadiq and Sami Abu Munder, both of whom had clearly been badly abused.

    1. Hadba Al-Khadra prison

      Senussi was flown into Metiga airbase early this afternoon and transferred by helicopter to Hadba Al-Khadra prison”,
      said Rat Colonel Mohammed Gwaider, the prison governor.

      Their first conversation is short. "Do you remember?" Gwaidar ask

      A unique experiment, one without rules, is taking place in the Hadba prison, where former prisoners are now the prison guards and former guards the prisoners. What they have in common is Abu Salim,

      The jailers are a brigade of fighters whose commander is Hakim Belhaj, a former Guantanamo detainee whose military prowess helped free Tripoli.

      waterboarding in the past :

      torturing now :


      The officer, Hisham al-Tumi, who served under Mr. Belhaj before taking office in the interim government, is responsible for transferring prisoners under militia control to detention centers mandated by the National Transitional Council.
      Dr Dorda also in the Hadba?

  29. Khalid al-Sharif

    Munder, also known as Abu al-Munder al-Saadi or Abu Munthir, was the LIFG's chief strategist. He was also rendered to Libya in 2004.

    A third Libyan detainee is Khalid al-Sharif, the LIFG's military commander, who stated in a March 2010 interview that he had been imprisoned by Americans at Bagram air base for two years and tortured by drowning, being suspended by his hands, and beating before being flown to Libya in April 2005.

    All three were transferred to Abu Salim prison, where they took part in negotiating a "reconciliation" with the regime orchestrated by Saif al-Islam al-Qaddafi.

    In September 2009, Belhaj, Munder, and Sharif, along with three other LIFG detainees at Abu Salim, issued a 417-page statement renouncing violence and denouncing al Qaeda. On March 23, 2010, they were released from prison.

    In May 2011, former LIFG leader Noman Benotman told Reuters that Qaddafi's forces had rearrested Munder and Sharif in Tripoli.
    Their current whereabouts are not known.

    Three other LIFG members rendered by the United States are likewise unaccounted for: Mohamed Ahmad Mohamed al-Shoroeiya, aka Hassan Rabii; Mahdi Jawda, aka Ayoub al-Libi, and Majid Abu Yasser, aka Adnan al-Libi.
    In the northwestern city of Idlib, intensified clashes broke out between Syrian Army forces and the Liwaa al-Umma Brigade insurgents. One senior militia member identified as Abu Naser al-Libi was killed in the fighting.


    Libyan terrorist Ibrahim Rajab al-Farajani

  30. @ 0.58 our friend Rajub Ferjani


    Tripoli military spokesman Khalid al-Sharif

  31. Fathy Sherif

    Khaled Garabulli, who says he waited for a fatwa from a senior Saudi preacher before casting his lot with the rebels, and his cohort Fathy Sherif, who wants Libyan passports to be respected again so he can travel freely to old haunts in the West, remain happy comrades.


    He too was freed from prison on August 21 following a four-month-long ordeal.
    A chemical engineer trained in Ireland, Sherif was rounded up in March along with five brothers and several cousins.
    Charged with promoting a bloodily suppressed uprising in the well-to-do Tripoli district of Fashloum, he was kept for six days in a cupboard-sized box, and for thirteen more in a ten-by-ten-foot steel container that was tilted at an angle, with no food for those inside, who sometimes numbered scores, and a plastic bottle for a toilet.


    When he was finally taken for questioning, Sherif would be asked a question but told to wait before answering and then left, naked, blindfolded, handcuffed, and kneeling, for twelve hours at a time.

    Yet he says he was lucky. Prisoners who dared bang on cell doors at Ain Zara, another facility where he was held,..
    Sherif can still scarcely contain his joy at surviving to see the revolution triumph.

    The forty-nine-year-old engineer happens to be related to the royal family that Qaddafi toppled, whose roots go back to the eastern oasis of Jaghboub

    Mohammad Idris was born in al-Jaghboub, Libya in 1890.

  32. TRIAL supported the Geneva visit of

    Dr. Salem Al-Ferjani,

    forensic scientist, human rights activist
    and former Deputy Chairman of the
    Libyan Commission for Missing Persons ,

    who took part in a roundtable and diverse meetings
    with United Nations bodies
    on the issue of enforced disappearances, mass graves,
    and international standards regarding the right to truth


    TRIAL’s submissions on Libya have begun to bear fruit.
    The Human Rights Committee delivered
    its first Libyan decision
    on a case jointly submitted by TRIAL
    and the organisation Alkarama.



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