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Saturday, June 30, 2012

ASHM Research: Timeline Clues, and Hospital Delineation

June 30, 2012 
(incomplete - updates July2)

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We know Abu Salim trauma hospital was opened for media scrutiny mid-day on August 26. At that time, it was painted with blood that sprayed and poured from executions by bullets and blades, and scatted with rotting corpses. These had been Black men and apparent loyalist fighters, so clearly Rebel fighters are the natural culprits. We turn now to what was reported or can be ascertained about what happened there in the days before that.

The Last Working Hospital?
One possible lead, with questions was published August 23. Hurriya alerts me of this Sky News broadcast by Alex Crawford, "apparently the abu saleem hospital."
http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16054621 (original link-now directs to:) http://news.sky.com/story/875946/children-shot-amid-sniper-attack-in-libya

The hospital isn't named, but is said to be "in a particularly bad geographical position because it is very close to the Rixos hotel (where western journalists stay), and very close to the Gaddafi compound and Green Square." This fits quite well with Abu Salim trauma hospital, which we suspect was taken out of commission at about this time; it's near the Rixos and Bab Al-Aziziyah. Green Square is quite a ways from both of those, really.

The interior shots are not conclusive, but it seems much livelier - and lighter-skinned - than Abu Salim sounded at the same time. No outside shots are shared. I decided to make this graphic after Googling a few places. I think Tripoli Central Hospital is not the same as Tripoli Medical Center, for one thing. For another, there's another hospital (anyone get that name?) in a spot even more like what Crawford describes.

That would seem to be a place called "Green public hospital," reportedly used a lot for treating wounded Gaddafi soldiers. We've heard very little of the situation in this facility right next to the Rixos, but it was apparently the center of fighting, with reports that loyalist snipers were stationed there and that someone or other verifiably knocked at least one corner out of it with some powerful rocket. Clearly worthy of more study...(details forthcoming, or see comments)

It could also be the northernmost central hospital, only one kilometer south of Green Square, that Crawford visited. Whichever one, she called it "the capitol's only working hospital," which isn't likely true, but the pool was clearly diminished just then. If this is Abu Salim, and it was the last, that would leave zero hospitals running for a spell, and that's not the case.

Inside this hospital: mostly wounded rebel fighters being treated, rebel fighters running around inside, a three-year old dying of a stomach shot (by snipers) and we hear an 11-year-old dead, shot in the head by same snipers. A mortar round fired by someone hit a perimeter wall, while Crawford was there, to illustrate the plight. It was grim, but she was not taken to the hospital in Abu Salim.

The Red Cross Help Before the Storm
The last we heard verifiably from there was the day before that. On the 22nd, the Red Cross/Red Crescent delivered medical supplies to several hospitals, including our subject.

22-08-2011 News Release

“Today, our team started providing medical facilities, including the Abu Slim Trauma Centre, with some of the supplies they need in order to treat casualties. We are delivering enough medical supplies to treat at least 300 casualties. The consignments include surgical kits, dressing materials and intravenous fluids,” announced George Comninos, the ICRC's head of delegation in Tripoli. 
 “In one of the hospitals we visited today, only one doctor was left to look after 25 patients, including 15 seriously wounded,” added Comninos. “We are mobilizing a complete surgical team to support the medical staff and help hospitals cope with the situation.” 
 The ICRC is maintaining regular contact with the main hospitals, so that the organization can evaluate their needs and respond accordingly. "So far, we only have limited access because of the fighting. However, we have managed to maintain dialogue with all parties ever since the beginning of the conflict, so we are able to operate despite the highly fluid front lines,” explains Comninos. “It is still difficult to get a clear picture of the overall humanitarian situation. We continue to urge both sides to respect civilians and to let medical workers treat the wounded.”
The lines would soon get too "fluid" to maintain contact with that hospital. Another source confirms the situation described above was at the one hospital named. The Telegraph reported on Aug. 23 from Tripoli Central Hospital.
There are two other major hospitals in Tripoli – they were overflowing with casualties as well, and so were all the private hospitals." Yesterday the Red Cross said its teams had made contact with about six medical facilities in Tripoli. They have confirmed the main problem they is an acute manpower shortage. At the Abu Slim Trauma Centre a team found just [one] doctor looking after 25 patients including 15 very seriously injured.
What a strange staff, about the same as the one we'd see doing the same thing on the 26th. No nurses at all, one presumes. Is this visit of the 22nd before or after the rebel takeover of management? That would have accompanied the massacre, presumably. Is it possible the foreigners were brought in but didn't see the dead people? Yes, with a tight-enough guided tour. They wouldn't really start smelling right away.

It's also possible the massacre happened after this, as the rebel occupiers wondered what to do with their "mercenary" captives. Or after they took over and killed the one remaining doctor after the restfled for whatever reason. (??) Maybe seeing outsiders trying to help the "criminals" inside infuriated them enough to go on safari that night.

There would be no further news for three days  (or was there? - I'm not sure). It was pretty quiet if so.

Other Clues
Rebels speaking to the media on the 26th and 27th cite time spans of varying number of days (two to five?) since the victims passed away. I'll later cite examples.

 The bodies and the maggots can tell the time, but not precisely as read by us, but ... bloating and discoloration suggests days have passed- maggots can hatch whithin 24 hours, but to be visibble size and of any grat number, at least two. Images start only on August 26. One photo ([AM1] as listed here) shows numrous but small maggots on this dead Black man's face as he's wheeled out. Other photos show maggots on the floor, crawling through the blood soup. Thus we're looking at an event most likely at least 2 days prior to this, as many as four days. Massacre date suggested: Aug. 22/23 most likely, 24 possible. Even the 21st is possible, but least likely for being so early in the invasion.

Last Silence before the News Storm
At the end of that three-day's silence after the ICRC visit, the New York Times' Kirkpatrick and Fahim filed a report on August 25 on the hospital situation. Reporting from Tripoli Central Hospital, they found "two doctors said the hospital had treated as many as 500 patients a day this week for gunshot wounds as the rebels..." had nothing to do with it, of course. "Snipers" they usually said. The fighting was described so:
"In their drive to take command of Tripoli, the rebels concentrated their forces on a block-by-block battle for the streets of the Abu Salim neighborhood, a center of Colonel Qaddafi’s support. By late afternoon, the fighting had once again swamped Tripoli Central Hospital with wounded civilians and combatants.” 
 This piece makes no mention of the hospital(s) in Abu Salim knocked so brutally out of commission. It's as if it never existed - until the news the next day, when bodies mostly dead about 3 days were revealed. The loss of this hospital, plus the loss of any others that were "closed" by the fighting, surely increased the load and decreased survival rates at the overworked remaining major hospital(s). And that's just among those - mostly rebel fighters - the rebels would let be sent to any hospital. They kept their own captives, bandaged a bit or not, or killed them on the spot, usually.

As the rebel militias squeezed Abu Salim, it seems they meant to make it quite clear, as they later would with the city of Sirte, that there would be no medical escape possible from their wrath.

First Views Before that Silence:
On August 25, an MSF medical team rescued two patients in very critical condition from Abu Salim hospital, which was surrounded by intense fighting at the time, and transferred them to Tripoli Medical Center. 
Libya: MSF Scales Up Response in Tripoli Amid Shocking Scenes in Hospitals (Aug. 27)

There should have been a shocking scene there by that date, but no news cameras 'til the following day, late afternoon (I think - Al Jazeera English footage, from the 26th, first video? photos not analyzed to get chronology yet...). What did they see there?
“When we arrived at Abu Salim, we faced quite a shocking scene: dozens of dead bodies were lying in the hospital’s compound,” reports Jonathan Whittall, MSF emergency coordinator. “Abu Salim hospital had been completely cut off by the nearby fighting and 22 patients were stuck inside, together with five medical staff. We managed to evacuate the two most critical patients—who would have probably died otherwise. Later on, the remaining patients were transferred to safer facilities.”
Two early removals well before the news cameras - the rest were only taken out the next day.
MSF sent three tons of dressing materials and much needed surgical material, including external fixators, from Tunisia into Libya.
What they really needed there was lots of lime powder and garbage bags. It seems they were supplied with enough.

It's interesting to note this visit was not reported on the same day, in a MSF dispatch from Aug. 25, but only after everyone else mentioned it first. Perhaps the visit was late in the day of the 25th and missed this deadline, but neither did they pipe up on the 26th,


  1. 22-08-2011“Today, our team started providing medical facilities, including the Abu Slim Trauma Centre, with some of the supplies they need in order to treat casualties

    At midday on Tuesday he jumped in the back of his Land Cruiser in the courtyard of the school and led his convoy south through the streets at high speed towards Gadaffi’s compound.
    Paul and I rode in the back of one of the trucks.

    Gadaffi forces fled south through the compound pursued by rebel pick-up trucks that raced through the hole in the wall, weaving among palm trees across the green lawn.


    At the main hospital, it was much the same grim picture but multiplied 10 or 20 times.

    Some 50 doctors were working in the emergency department but even that was not enough.

    Some doctors I spoke to hadn't left the hospital in a week.

    I later made my way back to the frontline where the revolutionaries had just broken down the main doors to the compound.

    We entered behind the technicals and they pounded away at the second and third reinforced concrete perimeter walls.

    1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6ONYIsHqg0&lr=1&feature=mhee&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2FSoldior%3Ffeature%3Dmhee&bpctr=1341093487&skipcontrinter=1

      @ 1.42 : nato bombs the checkpoints mostly protected and manned by by civilians

  2. http://wikimapia.org/13501330/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B4%D9%81%D9%89-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AE%D8%B6%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%85
    المستشفى الخضراء العام Green public hospital

    adress : الطريق السريع / highway
    Coordinates: 32°51'16"N 13°11'32"E

    آل مستشفى الخضراء. Al Green Hospital. = Al-Khadra Hospital. آل مستشفى الخضراء.

    مستشفى الخضراء,Elkhadra hospital



    Coordinates: 32°51'16"N 13°11'32"E

    1. Cool, thx. The first loc if that works is المستشفى الخضراء العام Green Public hospital, replacing the "???" at next update. Second worked too, and is as you say - same place, same basic name. To be called Green sounds unlucky tooin those days, and I don't know if we ever heard a peep from there. Public means all kinds of things treated, but not usually war wounds, so who knows how busy it ever got.

      Some visualizations, might be useful... another link...okay, later.

  3. آل مستشفى الخضراء. Al Green Hospital.

    Uploaded on Aug 28, 2011
    Tripoli, Libya bombing of al-Gaddafi on the Green Hospital
    قصف كتائب القدافي على مستشفى الخضراء

    @ 0.07 : bombed by khadafi, they say

    but it seems to have been green all the time :

    مستشفي الخضراء دنسه ازلام القذافي 16-4-2011
    مستشفي الخضراء 11-5-2011 ازلام القذافي تتجول

    drs regime change :

    1. Hmmm... interesting stuff. The bombing does look kind of lateral - rebel rocket more likely than NATO bomb or government attack of any kind. Will look at these some more...

  4. Tripoli Central Hospital. Al Zawia Street. Tripoli LIBYA

    Hospital street corner August 22

    Tripoli Central Hospital. Al Zawia Street.






    1. Yeah, a busy place... not probably going to be a major focus here. The Green hospital, yes. Middling focus, not big or small. Thanks again for that!

  5. Tripoli Central Hospital. Al Zawia Street might have had a regime change before aug :

    prof dr E F Ehtuish , Datum: 13/3/2011


    جرائم ضد الإنسانية في مستشفى طرابلس المركزي – شارع الزاوية

    Crimes against humanity in Tripoli Central Hospital - Street corner

    جنيف - ليبيا اليوم Geneva - Libya today

    لمعلومات المتوفره لدى التضامن ان الدكتور احتيوش فرج احتيوش، عضو قيادى فى حركه اللجان الثورية، يشرف على هذه الجرئم بشكل مباشر. كما ان الدكتور ابوالقاسم البارونى يتحمل مسؤليه هذه الجرئم بصفته مدير المستشفى المركزى.

    Information is available from the Association of Solidarity about Tripoli Central Hospital, located on a street corner, committing crimes against humanity:

    Information available about the solidarity of Dr. Ahtyosh Ahtyosh Faraj, a leading member of the revolutionary committees, who oversees this Jerim [ crimes?] directly. Also, Dr. Abul Qasim Baroni bear the responsibility of this Jerim in his capacity as director of the hospital's central.

    Libya: Victims of Gaddafi's in Az-Zawiya's Hospital Emergency R
    Uploader: QuatchiCanada

  6. tripoli Central Hospital : singing

    tripoli central hospital doctors demonstrate in support to 17 feb revolution

    crying after :
    drs strike because of security lack
    الخميس، 17 نوفمبر، 2011

    How NATO Dogs Treat Doctors and Nurses in Al Zawiya Street Hospital,Beating and Yelling 12/11/2011

  7. everywhere on ferjani's side :

    وقفة احتجاجية من بعض أطباء مستشفى طرابلس المركزي تضامنا مع زملائهم في مركز طرابلس الطبي تنديدا بالانتهاكات بحق الأطباء و الكوادر الطبية من قبل ثوار الناتو, حيث تم الاسبوع الماضي جر دكتور من داخل المركز الطبي في منظر بشع من قبل المليشيات التي تُلقب بالثوار استعباطاً وهم في الحقيقة مجموعة من العصابات التي لا يحكمها الا قانون الغاب
    A protest of some doctors Tripoli Central Hospital in solidarity with their colleagues in the Tripoli Medical Center to condemn abuses against doctors and medical staff by the NATO rebels , where last week Dr. was dragging from within the medical center in a disgusting scene by militias nicknamed revolutionaries Astabata They are in fact groups that are only governed by the law of the jungle


  8. remain 2 other questions :

    which hospital was taken on 18 aug :
    ثوار طرابلس يحاولون انقاذ طبيب اوكراني
    Uploaded by MrFreedomlibya on Aug 18, 2011

    abu saleem hospital ?

    1. looks a bit like Mitiga hospital in the video, Hurriya. The photo is indeed Abu Salim - photographer is Giulio Petrocco, labelled A worker hauls corpses in the Abu Salim hospital in Tripoli, Libya, Friday, Aug. 26, 2011, a grim testament to the chaos roiling the capital. The floors were covered with shattered glass and bloodstains, and medical equipment was strewn about. One room had 21 bodies lying on gurneys, with 20 more in a courtyard next to the parking lot _ all of them darker skinned than most Libyans. Gadhafi had recruited fighters from sub-Saharan Africa, but many others from the region are in Libya as migrant workers at Wenatchee world Aug 25. Photos by Francois Mori are also shown.

    2. Worth looking at if anything was "taken" that early. Tajoura fifth column were around there, they were armed, and probably would start early toopen ways for the sickos from Misrata. I'll consider this a bit, maybe worth mentioning.

      New pics... don't even know if they're new, got so many still to digest...

  9. As I mentioned elsewhere the silence regarding the El-Khadra' hospital (immediately south of the Rixos hotel, marked above with a question mark)is deafening.
    Rebel Tweets from February 2011 indicated it was used for treating Government military, not civilians. However...

    wheelertweets James Wheeler
    #Libya: Abdel Jalil was at El Khadra Hospital in Tripoli yesterday for tests. He was fine. Now he's going abroad for medical reasons.

    LibyaAlHurraTV LibyaAlHurra
    Getting reports that Tripoli's Khadra hospital is undertaking high security measures and heavy patrols outside.
    4:08 PM Jul 21st, 2011

    Liberty4Libya Free Libya Now
    Hadba Khadra FF's have cut 3rd ring road indefinately, fighting ensued with Gadafi Militias near Rixos hotel few meters from Khadra Hospital
    9:24 AM Aug 21st, 2011

    tripolitano Hosam
    FFs when r u going to #Rixos. 1st priority in my opinion. Also Khadra hospital and da palaces next to them should b searched.G men r there
    7:11 AM Aug 22nd, 2011

    IbnOmar2005 bashar = ibnl haraam
    contact in #tripoli: snipers still stationed in the khadra hospital. #libya
    2:49 PM Aug 24th, 2011

    IMC_Worldwide Intl Medical Corps
    #Libya update: @IMC_WorldWide supporting 3 hospitals in #Tripoli: Mitiga Military hospital, Tripoli Central Hospital & Al Khadra hospital.
    4:55 PM Aug 31st, 2011

    [Kirsty Campbell worked for IMC of Santa Monica, California- International Medical Corps has been on-the-ground responding to the crisis in Libya since February 27, 2011] - i.e assisting regime change. From their Libya One Year report - AUG 27 - In partnership with Libyan Volunteer Doctors, International Medical Corps opens Al Khadra
    hospital after the emergency department was destroyed by a missile

    Allegedly bombed by Gaddafi forces (NATO?? why would Gadaffi bomb his own hospital) during the fight for Tripoli, 13 minute video here showing wrecked interior, uploaded Sept 9 2011.

    Explosion rocks the El-Khadra hospital where rebels are being treated, Jan 2 2012

    1. Sorry I missed your tips first time around. I'm paying attention now - it's on my back burner and I know that now.

  10. There was another relevant entry neither of you caught yet that I just stumbled across in my mess of a Word file on this, probably from a comment here:

    On August 25, an MSF medical team rescued two patients in very critical condition from Abu Salim hospital, which was surrounded by intense fighting at the time, and transferred them to Tripoli Medical Center.
    Libya: MSF Scales Up Response in Tripoli Amid Shocking Scenes in Hospitals

    Now THAT was post-massacre but pre-news. Those people had to have seen the hospital and I'm curious what they thought. They mention that something in some hospital was "shocking." MSF is worth contacting in regards to this report, not that I'm holding my breath for any amazing response.

    1. The article (dated the 27th) does have more -should have looked first. Our window of outside views post-massacre goes back to the 25th, but with no photos or videos I know of.
      “When we arrived at Abu Salim, we faced quite a shocking scene: dozens of dead bodies were lying in the hospital’s compound,” reports Jonathan Whittall, MSF emergency coordinator. “Abu Salim hospital had been completely cut off by the nearby fighting and 22 patients were stuck inside, together with five medical staff. We managed to evacuate the two most critical patients—who would have probably died otherwise. Later on, the remaining patients were transferred to safer facilities.”

      The rest were only taken out the next day.
      MSF sent three tons of dressing materials and much needed surgical material, including external fixators, from Tunisia into Libya.
      What they really needed was lots of lime powder.

    2. another relevant entry neither of you caught yet

      hurriyaJune 27, 2012 7:13 PM

      On August 25, an MSF medical team rescued two patients in very critical condition from Abu Salim hospital, which was surrounded by intense fighting at the time, and transferred them to Tripoli Medical Center.

    3. I meant caught here. I figured it was most likely from you originally. :)

    4. No mention of it on the 25th....
      A three-person Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) team is currently in Tripoli with supplies and is starting to support facilities that are already overwhelmed with patients wounded in the fighting currently taking place in the Libyan capital..Jonathan Whittall, MSF head of mission, describes the situation on the ground ...Today, the MSF team in Libya is made up of 44 Libyan staff and 30 international staff and is currently providing medical care, mental health care, surgical services, and pharmacy support in the cities of Tripoli, Misrata, Zintan, Yefren, Al Zawiyah, Zlitan, and Benghazi

      All very anodyne. I don't see the word body, corpse, dead anywhere in the transcript.

      "The problem that’s facing ambulances is that there’s a massive fuel shortage in Tripoli." - not so for those yellow ex-UK rebel ambulances which feature in several videos.

      Nice photo of Mr Whittall on the Spanish edition

    5. Yeah... could be the 25th message went out too early to include this visit. But no mention on the 26th either. Were they embarrassed to speak up about what they saw until the media had already covered it? Possible...

  11. Geüpload door AlJazeeraEnglish op 21 aug 2011
    She says that Libya's opposition are in control of three Tripoli neighbourhoods: Fashloum, Zawiyat Dahmani, and Mansoura.


    Monday 22 August 14:00
    We went back along the same road as we were told that it was a lot safer.
    We managed to get as far as a few minutes from the heart of Tripoli, Green Square (now restored to its original name of Martyr’s Square).

    There, we saw that a large battle was taking place in a large compound.
    An organised group of revolutionaries that had descended into Tripoli from the mountains had surrounded a loyalist cell in this compound and ordered them to surrender, giving them the opportunity.

    When the cell refused and started attacking the revolutionaries, they went in and secured the building by killing off the remaining pockets of resistance.



    Many loyalist soldiers fled, while others turned themselves in.
    I heard the shooting stop around 9 a.m. The rebels are now looking for Gaddafi’s snipers, who, rumour has it, are hiding in the neighbourhood.

    They also put up street barricades to control who is coming in and out of the area.”

  12. The Brotherhood Clinic,"where Libyan staff was overwhelmed due to the huge influx of wounded in the last few days, MSF supported the clinic with medical supplies" is another hospital mentioned by MSF on Aug 27. Very convenienet for ICRC:
    ICRC Head Office: Ibrahim Mohamed Al Houni Street. Near Brotherhood Clinic, Noofleen Area Tripoli Libya

    Also known as the Brothers Clinic مصحة الاخوة, Address:
    P.O BOX 5145, Alnoflyeen, Tripoli, Libya Telephone: +218 21 340 3672/76

    It appears in this brief clip, Liberation Day, Brothers Sanatorium.

  13. situation Central hospital 22 aug :
    Mokhtar (not his real name) is a doctor at Tripoli's Central Hospital./22/08/2011
    We have a shortage of doctors because they can’t get to the hospitals.

    I myself am unable to go to work today because it isn’t safe to move.
    I wasn’t allowed past the checkpoints.

    However people at the hospital called me this morning.
    They are receiving casualties, and hundreds of injured are queuing in the corridors. Still, it isn’t as many as we expected, though we don’t have exact numbers yet.

    1. Libya: the battle for Tripoli - Tuesday 23 August 2011

      10.07am: Sky News's Tripoli correspondent Alex Crawford confirms Luke's reports of heavy fighting.

      Speaking to camera crouched behind a car, she described many casualties arriving at a hospital in central Tripoli.

      Increased Gunfire And Explosions In Tripoli. Latest Report From Sky's Alex Crawford At The Hospital.

      Raw Video: Explosions, Gunfire in Tripoli
      Gepubliceerd op 23 aug 2011 door AssociatedPress

      Libya: Nato plans final onslaught on Gaddafi's forces

  14. Bag said: “In Tripoli’s al-Mansoura district especially, there are intense clashes going on. This is because of Mansoura’s proximity to the towns of Muslin and Dahra, where the people support Gaddafi.
    NATO warplanes are bombing Gaddafi-controlled parts of Bab al-Azizia, and Muslin and Dahra.


    Bag said: “No, I can not confirm that. But there are said to be Gaddafi mercenaries remaining within the compound, who are from other African countries and who are going to fight till their last drop of blood because they have no chance of escape.”

  15. Tuesday 23 August 10:00 – Mansoura, Tripoli, Libya

    The writing on the side of the trucks showed that they were from all over Libya: Misrata, Zintan, Jadu, Yefren, Rujban, Sorman, and Zawiya. They pounded away mercilessly for hour after hour.


    On Wednesday morning, a rebel spokesman said: "There were bombardments on Bab al Aziziyah (compound), Al Mansoura area.
    "Most of this bombardment was carried out by the regime's cells positioned in the Abu Salim area."

    [24 aug : Sky's Stuart Ramsay, in Tripoli, said there had also been reports of 500 non-Libyan mercenaries being arrested near the airport, which is held by the rebels. ]

  16. The fuel shortage was just on regime side, not rebels :

    • The New York Times provides a detailed account of the rebel offensive on Tripoli which was combined with an uprising of residents.

    They were aided by steady supplies of weapons, fuel, medicine and food from British, French and Qatari troops and an escalated bombing campaign by Nato jets and American Predator drones. Hundreds of rebels took part in secret military training inside Qatar.

  17. 20 aug] 2011 "shaping attacks" began last Saturday morning when Nato war planes began a series of highly coordinated attacks ,while other aircraft, including predator drones, attacked troop concentrations, tanks and artillery batteries.


    Aug. 22, 2011 Fighting started again during the night. There were intense firefights. NATO drones and aircraft kept bombing in all directions. NATO helicopters strafed civilians in the streets with machine guns to open the way for the jihadis.

    In the evening, a motorcade of official cars carrying top government figures came under attack.
    The convoy fled to the Hotel Rixos, where the foreign press is based.

    NATO did not dare to bomb the hotel because they wanted to avoid killing the journalists. Nevertheless the hotel, which is where I am staying, is now under heavy fire.

    At 11:30pm, the Health Minister had to announce that the hospitals were full to overflowing. On Sunday evening, there had been 1300 additional dead and 5,000 wounded.

  18. In the city's main hospital ...says Dr. Ahmed


    Physicians have independently organized the evacuation of personnel, ensured that water is transported and received medicine from the Red Cross.

    "We are currently a completely autonomous hospital," says Ahmed.

    Within a matter of days, the mosques became community centers where repentant looters returned some of the spoils of war and the Red Crescent stored powdered milk and drinking water for redistribution to the city's nearly 2 million inhabitants.

    Is the doctor Mohammad Ahmed who reached Bir Muammar, an opposition-held village, perhaps Mohamed A Murabit of Saskatoon, Canada?

  19. http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2011/09/rebels-attack-compound-tripoli

    The red cross told me about 3000 deaths within two days in Tripoli mostly form NATO.
    The Death Toll

    According to sources from our correspondent in Tripoli, the death toll in the course of the last week (20-26 August) is of the order of 3000.

    The hospitals are in a state of turmoil, unable to come to the rescue of the wounded.

    The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) confirms that medical supplies are in short supply throughout the country.

  20. http://www.iranmilitaryforum.net/military-conflicts/libyan-war-casualties/

    dozens of rebels and foreign mercenaries fighting against Gaddafi reported killed in the attack.

    august 25 : according to rebels the death toll is more than 20,000 (rebels and civilians) and thousands of al ghaddafi troops

  21. 09/ 8/11 Naji Barakat, the health minister in the new Libyan leadership, said his figures are based, in part, on reporting from hospitals, local officials and former rebel commanders.

    Barakat said he'll only have a complete count in several weeks, but that he expects the final figure for dead and wounded to be higher than his current estimates.

    Libya has a population of just over 6 million.
    At least 4,000 people are still missing, either presumed dead or held prisoner in remaining Gadhafi strongholds, including his hometown of Sirte, Barakat told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

    Others killed in fighting were hastily buried, and are now being exhumed for identification.
    Search teams also continue to find secret graves of detainees killed by retreating Gadhafi forces.
    Just this week, they dug up more bodies in one area of the Libyan capital Tripoli and two other towns.

    Mass Graves Surface with Thousands Killed in Libya Result Phony "Humanism" of Imperialists

  22. NATO, including Daalder and Stavridis have the audacity of calling the massacres on tens of thousands of Black African Migrant Workers, and tens of thousands of Black Libyans, (16) the slaughter of over 10.000 Tawergha, the utter wiping out of the city from existence and the internal displacement of the survivors,(17) as “teachable moment and model for future interventions”.


  23. hospitals in tripoli bombed in march 2011 :

    Hours after the attacks, sources in Libya have reported that three medical facilities were bombarded. [3] Two were hospitals and one a medical clinic. [4] These were civilian facilities.

    Al-Tajura Hospital was hit as was Saladin Hospital in Ain Zara. The clinic that was bombed was also located in the vicinity of Tripoli, the Libyan capital.[5] Not only where these civilian structures, but they were also all far away from the combat zone.


  24. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8721027/Libya-In-Tripolis-hospitals-they-die-on-the-beds-and-die-on-the-floors.html

    24 Aug 2011
    Yesterday the Red Cross said its teams had made contact with about six medical facilities in Tripoli.

    They have confirmed the main problem they is an acute manpower shortage. At the Abu Slim Trauma Centre a team found just doctor looking after 25 patients including 15 very seriously injured.

  25. This week MSF sent more doctors, who had been waiting on standby in Tunisia, into the capital.

    25 Aug 2011 19:19 - Staff Reporter

    But some days doctors have been housebound due to fighting between rebels and pro-Gaddafi supporters in the capital.

  26. Despite the seemingly chaotic rush in Tripoli Central Hospital, Dr. Faisal Jriwat, an orthopedic surgeon who has worked at the hospital for 10 years, explained that the 120 new patients who arrived Tuesday were a far cry from the thousands of patients streaming into the hospital on Aug. 20.


  27. http://web1.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/110831/libya-tripoli-hospital-rebels-muammar-gaddafi

    Shortly after the crisis began, hospital supplies ran out completely. After three days of total chaos, an urgent plea for volunteers was aired on local television. The response was overwhelming.

    UK , ICRC inside , upload 27 aug

  28. The only working hospital in Tripoli

    The only working hospital in Tripoli has been overwhelmed with casualties. Doctor Mohmed Harisha told Britain's Sky News: "Not enough doctors in our hospital here. We need more doctors, surgeon doctor, orthopaedic doctor and anaesthesia doctor. We need nurse, we need technician for x-ray, we need everywhere. Everybody can give help, who will come here. Our hospital here, patient from three days back, patient every day will die." Al Jazeera Live Blog, Aug 23 2011, 02.36 hrs [GMT]

    Euronews video: Libyan doctors issue plea for help with interview with Mohmed Harisha It's a modern hospital, looking at the entrance lobby at 0.03.

    Harish also talked to ABC Australia, providing no more detail.

    See also 'I helped in the battle to overthrow Gaddafi…', Yahoo news. Dec 6 2011. Speaking to Simon Freeman,Jamal Harisha, 51, moved from Libya to Britain in the 80s, and is a consultant surgeon at Northampton General Hospital.....I went to the central hospital, not far from his compound.[Cental Tripoli Hospital?] We treated a lot of young men who had lost legs and arms in the fighting. Others had head injuries. The medical team were doing their best to give first aid but the casualties needed more serious treatment and medicines and equipment were not available. It was a very sad scene.

    The doctors didn't have the training to cope. They lacked organisation so we were there to guide them. I operated on a number of casualties including one young man of 23 who had a bullet in his arm.

    The Daily Mirror article by Martin Fricker with Martin Fricker photo relating to Harisha is dated August 30, and shows the Tripoli Central Hospital.

    Jamal Sadegh Harisha,MB BCh 1983 University of Al Fateh. Not the same person as Mohmed Harisha - too old. But a coincidence. Or a fake name? Or a relative perhaps?

    1. Three doctors – born and brought up in Tripoli – decided to leave Britain and spend their summer holidays helping to rebuild their home country.

      They risked death travelling through government-controlled areas of Libya and helped trainee medics struggling in poorly equipped hospitals.

      Without their help scores of revolutionaries would have died before seeing the fall of Colonel Gaddafi.

      Khaled Sherlala, 49, said: “We saw what was happening in Tripoli and knew we had to do something.”

      The consultant radiologist at Coventry Hospital said farewell to his wife Hala and four kids and headed for Tunisia.

      Khaled was joined on the trip by Jamal Harisha, 51, a consultant surgeon at Northampton General Hospital.

      Mr Harisha said: “My wife and three kids were worried but I wanted to help the revolutionaries.”

      Via a network of medical contacts, they collected an ambulance in Tunis. From there they drove for days to reach Tripoli, negotiating Gaddafi-controlled parts of Libya. “It was scary,” said Mr Sherlala, from Rugby, Warks. “We were driving into the unknown.”

      Once in Tripoli they met with father-of-five Khaled Aba-Oub,from Haywards Heath, West Sussex. a consultant at St Helier Hospital in Sutton, Surrey.

      He said: “I took my summer holiday and came here. I knew it was dangerous but this is my home country.” The trio witnessed horrific scenes, including bodies abandoned on wards and fighters with sniper injuries.

      “The only doctors we came across were juniors,” said Mr Harisha, from Northampton. “They were competent but lacked organisation.

      Mr Harisha added: “Until recently any freedom fighter that arrived at the hospital would be taken away and executed by Gaddafi’s soldiers.

      “They were terrified about going to hospital so instead were treated by sympathetic doctors on the front line. Now thankfully Gaddafi has gone, and they are able to use the hospitals.”


    2. September 8, 2011 at 11:54 AM
      Would you be kind to put a note in arabic in your newspaper to announce the declaration and birth of our FREEDOM AND JUSTIC PARTY.

      All corrospondance should be directed to Dr Jamal Harisha , A consultant surgeon at the above email or mobile 00447764249875


    3. http://ar-ar.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=208049112545761

      The above statement dated 27 February 2011 is a follow up to the one issued last Monday (21 February 2011) and sent to more than forty international legal and political organisations as well as to the media, bearing the names of Libyan intellectuals and professionals, together with their supporters from other nationalities, listed in full below

    4. http://www.libyaalmostakbal.net/news/clicked/8615

      Dr Jamal Harisha: Free and Justice Party

    5. December 23, 2011 at 1:44pm , Mohamed Harisha UTD. December 23, 2011 at 1:44pm · Tamer Misellati LMDDU = libyan medical and dental doctors union this title includes all of us,physicians ...

      Mohamed Harisha You are photogenic man

    6. Seems to be him. Good find, Hurriya.

    7. While there Dr Sherlala witnessed the aftermath of some of the recent atrocities. One of his photographs shows an X-ray image of a three-year-old boy with a sniper’s bullet lodged in his brain.

      He also came across the bodies of rebel fighters who had been massacred at a prison compound which was then set alight by Gaddafi loyalists.


      shed nato bombing


  29. The only working hospital in Tripoli :


    Which hospital , entrance @ 0.04 /@ 1.02 moamer portrait

    imho al khadra hospital = green hospital, has green tile walls .

    Fighting in that area seemed to be finished 22 / 23 aug

    is mohmed harisha a NGO Doctor ? not fluent english
    Published on Aug 23, 2011

    1. another dr plea on upload 23 aug :

      23 aug 6:41am UK, Tuesday August 23, 2011 / Ramadan 23 A Libyan doctor has issued a desperate plea for help as he watches civilians die from a lack of medical supplies and manpower.

  30. http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=Kfvrkp5khQY

    Why door just opened when journo's come @ 8.02

    @ 10. 26 the owner of a take away restaurant [ abdul salam turshi] says he saw some of the civilian killings on sunday
    upload date = 26 = friday, so sunday must be 21 aug

    @ 2.20 2 women, 2 children

    why basement just opened when journo's come inside @ 2.56

  31. In Tripoli, there are two morgues, but most victims who die violent deaths are taken to one of them, at Tripoli Central Hospital. There, according to Ali al-Kerdasi, a member of the hospital’s media committee, the dead since Aug. 25 totaled 700. Mr. Kerdasi said 600 people had been reported missing by relatives who came to the hospital to try to find them; 113 pictures of missing people are posted on the hospital’s emergency ward walls.

    The figure of 700 dead may not have included all of those who died in the first days of the final battle for the city, from Aug. 20, when the main hospitals were in the hands of government forces for the first few days, and relatives may have buried some of the dead without taking them to the morgue as required by law.

    At the site of the other morgue, at Tripoli Medical Center, Dr. Hossam Algedar, head of the center’s missing persons team, said he was not allowed to release information on the numbers of dead and missing. On the walls of that hospital, fliers show at least 127 missing people.


    1. most victims there [ in Tripoli ] died from Aug. 20 to Aug. 26.

    2. http://audioboo.fm/boos/450035-69-civilians-were-among-410-bodies-at-two-tripoli-morgues-kirsty-campbell-from-international-medical-corp-reports#t=5m53s

      In Tripoli, there are two morgues ? :

      August 27th: We moved on to Firnej, south of Tripoli,
      where we visited a Libyan family whose members actively participated in the revolution.
      They shared with us accounts of resisting pro-Gadhafi propaganda at work and school, making Libyan flags, and writing anti-Gadhafi poems, drawing on inspiration from the Tunisian revolution.

      We accompanied the eldest sons to Tripoli Medical Center
      where volunteer doctors showed us the morgue filled with the unidentified bodies of mercenaries and civilians.



  32. Retreating Gadhafi forces killed scores of detainees as the rebels advanced, according to witnesses and human rights groups.

    In one case, they left dozens of bodies charred beyond recognition and piled near a military base. The bodies of others killed during the fighting, from pro-Gadhafi African fighters to a doctor in hospital scrubs, were hastily collected and piled in morgues or dumped by the roadside.

    Many may never be identified.

    Of 297 bodies brought to Tripoli Central Hospital since Aug. 20, some 170 had to be buried without names, said the director, Gassem Baruni.

    At the Tripoli Medical Center, a majority of the nearly 200 bodies collected in the second half of August were unidentified, morgue attendants said.

  33. Al-Awayeb leads a group of rebel commanders who feel that their uprising does not get the respect it deserves.

    “When we caught some soldiers we were killing them," he says.

    "What can we do with them? We didn’t have a jail, didn’t have time to put them [anywhere]. They are our enemy.


  34. A hospital in the previously government controlled Abu Silem district has been abandoned after a NATO bombardment followed by rebel advances.

    NATO bombs also destroyed a local fire station and there are now reports of black Africans turning up in large numbers, dead, in hospitals.


    While BBC has officially written them off as “suspected mercenaries,” it should be noted that just like every nation on earth, Libya’s population includes diverse demographics, and considering its location on the continent of Africa, many black citizens.

    1. do not exactly understand waudo's reason not reaching ASH


      @ 0.49 waudo : we also see a problem with medical ..? some of whom are not been abled to reach the hospitals

  35. The bombing raids over Tripoli were intensified in the course of the last two weeks.

    They were intended to support ground operations led by NATO special forces and the Islamic paramilitary brigades.

    With limited NATO ground force capabilities, NATO strategists decided to intensify the bombing raids.


    psychological and emotional impact on tens of thousands of people, from the young to the elderly

  36. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVrkWgwzPkw&feature=related
    @ 0.16 : think this abu saleem hospital



    abu saleem hospital

    Uploaded by skynews on Aug 27, 2011

    @ 1.21 : the liberation of abu saleem prison

    On Friday evening [ 19 aug], two more formations of RAF Tornado and Typhoon aircraft returned to Tripoli.

    Their target was the main operations room for the Ministry of Interior's security forces, which NATO intelligence had identified as located in a compound in the Abu Salim district.

    Eight Paveway guided bombs scored direct hits.


    Sun Aug-21-11 02:01 PM /All my captive relatives have been freed today from Abu Slaim prison today. They re heading home now. #Tripoli #Libya
    Sun Aug-21-11 02:01 PM /GenStrike For A Free World
    ♺ @Libyan4life: AJA Caller: They have released thousands of prisoners from ''AjDayda'' in #Tripoli. #Libya #MermaidDawn/5 minutes ago

    did sky news add later on the abu saleem hospital shots in this vid to the abu saleem prison events or was everything on same date = 21 aug
    or before that date .

  37. (Tripoli Central Hospital is in an area that remains controlled by Qaddafi loyalists.)

    Published: August 22, 2011 /At roughly the same time, as many as 10 injured people were brought to a makeshift rebel clinic in a house in the city, according to several foreign journalists visiting at the time.

    (Tripoli Central Hospital is in an area that remains controlled by Qaddafi loyalists.) It is unclear whether any of them were injured at the Tripoli Brigade headquarters or in other fighting in the city.

    tripoli brigade headquarters

    But moments later, the journalists said, a gunfight broke out in front of the clinic as well.

    Same article mention:

    Emhemmed Ghula, who identified himself as a deputy chief of the Tripoli underground, was telling journalists the city was “90 percent under control,” aside from some number of snipers. “They have some roofs, but they can’t move in the streets.”
    And a local resident of the district, Munir El Gouila, tells of being held prisoner and watching in horror as mercenaries killed at least 20 soldiers and more than 100 prisoners in their cells with gunfire and grenades.
    @ 3.35 mansoura , anas mohammed bani , alleged shooting by loyalists last saturday= 20 aug

    20 aug also correspondents with el hadi's second massacre escape from the school executions

    the goula' s claimed they have been arrested on saturday night too, @ 4.41

    We didn't make it a secret," said Mohammed Gula/GOULA , who led a pro-rebel political cell in central Tripoli [ Mlegta connection]

  38. A felix , the local computer engineer ,
    in mansoura with hilsum, in goula's visiting room,
    at mitiga hospital @ 1.06

    and praying outside the shed :

    can you find the link wherein he is in the mosque with a map of tripoli's area's on the wall behind him and claiming he is looking after the stolen goods ? :

    Furjani’s men run a checkpoint on the main road outside the mosque.
    Furjani said much of the booty in his courtyard was recovered during car searches, though on Tuesday, no cars were being stopped.

    1. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/france-says-london-will-host-political-talks-next-week-on-libyas-future/2011/03/23/ABUKXew_gallery.html#photo=89
      Sept. 7, 2011

      Sheikh Hussein Furjani, a cleric and local-level rebel military chief, checks documents found in the home of suspected Gaddafi loyalists during a raid in Tripoli's Khalet El Furjan district.

  39. 22 aug 2011, mansoura / "We saw Gaddafi’s troops and his mercenaries retreat, by foot and by car"


    In Abu Salim, bullet casings littered a square.

    About 50 charred cars dotted the neighbourhood.


    abandoned car

  40. BBC failed to mention that most of the corpses were those of black people

    Similarly, the BBC recently showed a video of hundreds of bodies found in the Abu Salim hospital in Tripoli, but failed to mention, either through genuine neglect or a deliberate intention to mislead, that most of the corpses were those of black people, who had obviously been killed by anti-Gaddafi forces when the city was taken.

    The "blacks are mercenaries" myth has been useful to those wishing to downplay the idea that Gaddafi could be receiving support from any native Libyans, and portray the entire conflict as "Gaddafi vs. the people."

    However, if collective punishment is the way the rebel forces are going to treat those suspected -- rightly or wrongly -- of links to Gaddafi's regime, on what grounds should we presume that there will be no punitive measures implemented against native Libyan groups who have backed Gaddafi during the conflict, including many of the rural Arabized tribes of southwest Fezzan? As I predicted, the rebel forces have recently been giving the Berber Touareg in the far south this kind of harsh treatment.

    Clearly, the horrific treatment of blacks is not only a result of racism but also part of an attempt to dismantle anything associated with Gaddafi's legacy (the importation of Africans was one aspect of Gaddafi's eccentric turn towards notions of pan-Africanism and a vision of a "United States of Africa" after 1998).


  41. 20 aug 2011 ,Private clinic, Dahara section of Tripoli , Dr. Imad al-Hitushi

    As rebel forces closed in on Tripoli in early August, Dr. Imad al-Hitushi prepared his clinic to service their wounded. He relayed word to their leaders in Zawiyah that his medical facility was ready to treat their injured. "We heard so many stories about rebels dying in the battlefield," says the ophthalmologist in his small five-bed clinic in the Dahara section of Tripoli. "I called other doctors — surgeons and [gastro-intestinal] specialists and told them to be ready."
    When the fight arrived in Tripoli on Aug. 20, they were ready.

    Please spread the word Dr.Hajjaji has opened a home hospital in Hay Alandalus #tripoli anyone injured cal for Call 0912139236


    Incredibly, a network of secret hospitals has been established in people’s homes rather than risk ferrying injured people several miles across town.


    Sunday, August 21, 2011 Rebel sources told The Times that they controlled most of Tripoli by Sunday night. Souk al-Juma, Mansoura, Dahra and Al Sreem neighborhoods near downtown Tripoli were all under rebel control.


  42. the two sides appeared to be jockeying for control of roof terraces to use as firing positions

    Sun Aug 21 / But the overnight fighting inside the city, while fierce, was not decisive.

    Rebels said they controlled all or parts of the Tajourah, Fashloom and Souk al-Jumaa neighourhoods, yet there was no city-wide rebellion.

    In Tripoli on Sunday, the two sides appeared to be jockeying for control of roof terraces to use as firing positions, possibly in preparation for a new burst of fighting after dark.

    A rebel activist in the city said pro-Gaddafi forces had put snipers on the rooftops of buildings around Bab al-Aziziyah, Gaddafi's compound, and on the top of a nearby water tower.


    Snipers on high buildings were firing on protesters in at least one of the four neighborhoods, said Lahab. Residents contacted in the city by telephone also reported snipers firing on civilians.


  43. feb17voices Feb 17 voices

    Note: The term "sniper" is often used by callers to refer to any individual observed with weapons on top of buildings #Tripoli #Libya

    5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply/Mon Aug 22, 2011 at 09:23:24 AM PDT

  44. 11 - Prisoners in Tripoli are being released by prison guards who are asking forgiveness, and being told to run.


    Herald Tribune 2011-08-29: TRIPOLI, Libya - A rebel military spokesman says rebels have freed more than 10,000 from Moammar Gadhafi's prisons since entering Tripoli last week [ art not longer available]
    Some of the first targets for rebel troops as they entered Tripoli were the city's prisons.

    In the past week, thousands of inmates have been freed from large facilities such as Jdeida, Ain Zara and Abu Salim
    Breaking News: Three other explosions in #Tripoli now believed that #NATO attack camp of 3en zara.

    Abu Salim prison / The rebels came for us in the early hours of Monday morning. [= 22 aug]



    How far away is ASP from ASH?


  45. Pockets of Regime Security in Furnaj /Fernaj prison, near #Tripoli Medical Center :

    22 aug 2011 /16 - Pockets of Regime Security in Furnaj opening fire on anyone and anything.

    10 aug 2012 :
    #Libya: Reports that fire erupted in Fernaj prison, near #Tripoli Medical Center. Some prisoners reportedly escaped after clashing w/ guards


    21 AUG LPC #Tripoli: in Furnaj area gunfire is still audible #Libya

    20 aug 2011 /State-controlled media also reported NATO bombing strikes Saturday night in the Khalat Furjan district of Tripoli.


    . NATO warplanes are bombing Gaddafi-controlled parts of Bab al-Azizia, and Muslin and Dahra.

  46. And that is if we take Dr Sami's story at face value.
    What if he is himself a rebel sympathizer and not telling the truth, though?

    As for the story told by another doctor, Dr Ghassem Barouni, what are we to think of the idea of taking "a necklace of one man – a Tuareg
    tribesman – who claimed to hold Libyan nationality" for the sign that "He was still very loyal to Gaddafi, even after all this death"?
    The ideology of these two doctors may be surmised from this sentence in the article:

    "In the eyes of the doctors treating them, they had no good reason for being in Abu Selim."


    Barouni :


    1. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/02/libya-gaddafi-army-mercenaries-backlash

      The ideology of these two writers may be surmised from this sentence in the article:

      Martin Chulov and David Smith in Tripoli
      guardian.co.uk, Friday 2 September 2011 20.55 BST :

      A tour of the capital's overworked hospitals over the past fortnight

      revealed sizable numbers of such men

      in beds alongside soldiers from Gaddafi's ousted army.

    2. August 29, 2011 / The chairman of the African Union on Monday accused Libyan rebels of indiscriminately killing black people because they have confused innocent migrant workers with Gadhafi's mercenaries.


      National Transitional Council spokesman Abdel-Hafiz Ghoga denied the AU claims.

      "These allegations have been made during the early days of the revolution.

      This never took place."

    3. ramadan kareem :

      Walid Barui, 25, breaks his Ramadan fast with a cup of water as a building burns behind him in the still violent neighborhood of Abu Salim.

      Baruni took up his gun and joined the revolution weeks ago,


      (Benjamin Lowy / Reportage by Getty Images for msnbc.com) Share



  47. Hamza Mhani, a prisoner under Gaddafi, recalled watching on the night of Aug. 20 as prison guards shed their uniforms, stashed weapons in the trunks of their vehicles and drove away before they could be vanquished by the rebels.

    One guard, whom Mhani describes as the most conspicuously loyal to Gaddafi, stopped to free the prisoners.

    “He was crying and saying, ‘Please forgive me,’ ” Mhani said.

    As the guard unlocked the cells, Mhani said, he repeated again and again: “I am now doing what was always in my head to do.”

    Mafqood was founded by FGM and is run by a team of volunteers who input data on missing persons into a central database and offer support to friends and families of missing persons.

    The support centre is headed by Dr. Mervat Mhani, a key activist in FGM.

    She has recently been appointed as Head of International Relations at the Ministry of Martyrs and the Missing, which seeks to help the search for missing persons through improved communications across the country.



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