By Adam Larson aka Caustic Logic
October 20, 2016
last edits and notes Oct. 25
Mythology and Reality in Review
WHITE HELMETS! The Islamist-identifying "Syrian Civil Defense" aka "White Helmets" is apparently meant to replace the official Syrian Civil Defense
with something more ideologically suited to operate in "liberated"
areas (universally run by Al-Qaeda and their kind of Saudi-indoctrinated
Sunni extremists). They probably are in part an actual rescue outfit
that has saved at least some innocents, from violence that was actually
by Syrian government forces or their allies. But the size of that part -
100% to read the mainstream media - is seriously in question. In large
part they also seem to be a foreign-created PR stun in support of regime
change, who specialize mainly in blaming "Assad" or "Putin" for every
death in this foreign-sponsored violence. (see also White Helmets
article at A Closer Look On Syria (ACLOS))
All the praise heaped on the White Helmets is perhaps just for casting the "correct" blame, but saving the lives of babies is the thing people mention. All the over-done love has rightly spurred a slew of critical analyses from alternative sources. A new video by In The Now essentially remakes previous ones in shorter form, showing the "neutral and unarmed" heroes fighting with guns, in and out of uniform, rooting for and working with Al Qaeda's Syria branch Jabhat al-Nusra (JaN), etc. The White Helmets have gotten so much negative press and accrued so many haters, as they also scored a Netflix documentary to boost their shot at a Nobel peace Prize (a chance now formally missed)... well, by now it feels a bit overplayed and I've mostly sat out adding to the noise. But a few related points that are not as well covered yet seem to merit a post finally.
An image the White Helmets have recycled, FWIW |
All the praise heaped on the White Helmets is perhaps just for casting the "correct" blame, but saving the lives of babies is the thing people mention. All the over-done love has rightly spurred a slew of critical analyses from alternative sources. A new video by In The Now essentially remakes previous ones in shorter form, showing the "neutral and unarmed" heroes fighting with guns, in and out of uniform, rooting for and working with Al Qaeda's Syria branch Jabhat al-Nusra (JaN), etc. The White Helmets have gotten so much negative press and accrued so many haters, as they also scored a Netflix documentary to boost their shot at a Nobel peace Prize (a chance now formally missed)... well, by now it feels a bit overplayed and I've mostly sat out adding to the noise. But a few related points that are not as well covered yet seem to merit a post finally.
The
impetus behind the creation of their creation by Western experts and
Muslim allies is clear - they finally brings a ray of hope amid the
grinding proxy war waged by brutal Islamists sponsored by Saudi Arabia
and Turkey. So as this and/or the government's response causes
increasing death and destruction, they sponsor rescuers too. Now besides
armed Islamists, we have usually unarmed Islamists running
towards cameras on a daily basis with living babies: One was SAVED! Hope
emerges from the rubble! That's a more inspiring and less draining
narrative. See inspirational cartoon here. It really re-energized the intervention, maight give it two years more before it's allowed to end.
Many
videos include the now-famous scene where civil defense men in uniform
(gray overalls with logo on the back) wait by for a man to be shot dead
by an
Islamist militant, then rush the body away. The organization tried to
argue around this, but failed - they're documented assistants to
terrorist killings. (ACLOS discussion, May, 2015)
This is perhaps a good visualization and sort of tip of the iceberg for other things they might do. Some good evidence suggests, but doesn't prove, that the White Helmets have since their inception in (early 2015?) helped launder the murder of many thousand civilians, including women and children, in false-flag events meant to demonize Syria and its allies. The following two major and inter-related points explore this possibility with semi-detailed consideration of the available evidence.
This is perhaps a good visualization and sort of tip of the iceberg for other things they might do. Some good evidence suggests, but doesn't prove, that the White Helmets have since their inception in (early 2015?) helped launder the murder of many thousand civilians, including women and children, in false-flag events meant to demonize Syria and its allies. The following two major and inter-related points explore this possibility with semi-detailed consideration of the available evidence.
1) White Helmets Covering Up Genocidal Massacres?
1a) "Shabiha" Means What?
1a) "Shabiha" Means What?
Also
widely-featured, and deservedly so, is the elderly "Syrian Civil
Defense" worker who says with a creepy smile how they take "the bodies
of Shabiha and throw them in the trash" (see Vanessa Beeley, the White Helmets' premier critic). "Trash" here probably means an unmarked mass grave.
Some say these "Shabiha" are genocidal maniacs, and whether killed in fighting or executed, would deserve an improper burial. The term is an Islamist rebel nickname for the National Defense Forces (NDF), previously called Popular Committees (Lijan Shabiya). Their cartoon villain version are taken as basically an Alawite death cult blamed for hundreds of inflammatory massacres of Sunni families. (see ACLOS).
Some say these "Shabiha" are genocidal maniacs, and whether killed in fighting or executed, would deserve an improper burial. The term is an Islamist rebel nickname for the National Defense Forces (NDF), previously called Popular Committees (Lijan Shabiya). Their cartoon villain version are taken as basically an Alawite death cult blamed for hundreds of inflammatory massacres of Sunni families. (see ACLOS).
But
comment might be more insidious than people realize; it might be a
slip admission of the general genocide program the "White Helmets" are
part of. Research suggests that many or all of the massacres blamed on
them were actually done by terrorists, and "Shabiha" sometimes means
Syrians of the Alawi faith, regardless of fighting status with the NDF
or otherwise, and sometimes regardless of age and gender.
Consider the August, 2013 Latakia village massacres by JaN, Ahrar al-Sham, ISIS, and others in a broad team effort (ACLOS). They boasted of killing 170-240 of "Assad's men" or "Shabiha" during their offensive and occupation about ten villages near the Turkish border (they had Turkish assistance). In reality, per Human Rights Watch (and it seems good work for once), the "rebels" killed about 30+ soldiers in the takeover, and then killed around 115 civilian men, and a combined 75 women and children (mostly those who tried to run away, and some women they raped). That's a total of 220+ killed, proably incomplete, and the same 240 "Shabiha" rebels proudly killed, and "threw in the trash" as some would say. They also took some 225 women and children hostage, leaving no one alive and at liberty. The victims were all Alawi (Alawites), the religion of president Assad. It was a clearly sectarian massacre by the Sunni extremists.
Note: there were no White Helmets at this time to help launder the massacre. Here's a video the opposition's pathetic attempt to put a humanitarian spin on their occupation of the area, using a blood-smeared ambulance sponsored by "Medical Relief for Syria" and a couple of obvious actors to claim the "FSA" was in charge and never harmed an innocent Alawite, and in fact happily helped them deliver babies. (see notes here and note credible reports say the massacre included an Alawi baby beheaded and a pregnant woman cut in half - Steele, Guardian.)
Consider the August, 2013 Latakia village massacres by JaN, Ahrar al-Sham, ISIS, and others in a broad team effort (ACLOS). They boasted of killing 170-240 of "Assad's men" or "Shabiha" during their offensive and occupation about ten villages near the Turkish border (they had Turkish assistance). In reality, per Human Rights Watch (and it seems good work for once), the "rebels" killed about 30+ soldiers in the takeover, and then killed around 115 civilian men, and a combined 75 women and children (mostly those who tried to run away, and some women they raped). That's a total of 220+ killed, proably incomplete, and the same 240 "Shabiha" rebels proudly killed, and "threw in the trash" as some would say. They also took some 225 women and children hostage, leaving no one alive and at liberty. The victims were all Alawi (Alawites), the religion of president Assad. It was a clearly sectarian massacre by the Sunni extremists.
Note: there were no White Helmets at this time to help launder the massacre. Here's a video the opposition's pathetic attempt to put a humanitarian spin on their occupation of the area, using a blood-smeared ambulance sponsored by "Medical Relief for Syria" and a couple of obvious actors to claim the "FSA" was in charge and never harmed an innocent Alawite, and in fact happily helped them deliver babies. (see notes here and note credible reports say the massacre included an Alawi baby beheaded and a pregnant woman cut in half - Steele, Guardian.)
Like
the mythical Assad mentality of 'all Sunnis are terrorists,' the
terrorists among the Sunnis really seem to think all Alawi are
"Shabiha," or will be when they grow up, or are anyway fit to kill or
steal. These will be some of the people murdered (mostly the men) and
taken as
hostages and/or human shields (women and children). Those might be
variously used, released in exchanges, or simply killed whenever the
terrorists want to blame something on the "Assad regime" or on Russia.
1b) Recent Cases of Note
Now consider some more recent incidents after "Civil Defense" appeared, starting with the Hayan missile massacre
of August 12, 2016. Here, in an area run by Jabhat al-Nusra, north of
Aleppo, we see a White Helmet sans helmet running with a dead and
decaying child, while another man who seems in no hurry carries a living
and apparently unharmed baby, for no clear reason. The dead child here
is one among a reported 12 women and children just killed by a Russian
jet strike. Activists say that came during or just after the daily
cease-fire, as they walked with no male escorts in a barren industrial
area a ways from town.
However,
there's no clear sign of a bomb impact, and the victims are decaying,
probably dumped here after being killed somewhere else. The opposition
VDC's records said at least 9 of these were from a Qraitem family - 4
women and 5 children, with 3 other children unclear, and no men killed
with them. They may be executed; a boy has the top of his head sliced
off, and a girl has a neat hole in the bridge of her nose (others are
unclear). The same VDC records show 3 men named Qraitem were killed at
the end of July, with no women or children, also killed by "warplane
shelling." Rather, it seems they were all gender-segregated hostages, killed in shifts.
Further, the mothers having the same name as their husbands and
children is unusual, and suggests this family was not devout Sunni,
perhaps Christian or other non-Muslim. (there is or was a Yazidi village
nearby, and the Shia villages of Foua and Kafr Aya were still holding
out to the north).
Among the few more recent allegations provided by the White Helmets I've paused to examine, was crushed women in Rastan
- another couple where the wife took her husband's name is involved.
They became "displaced" (abducted?) from Homs, and died this day by
government bombing in rebel-held Rastan along with another woman. The
one woman shown seems to be previously stabbed in the head, but that's
not certain.
On September 19, the White Helmets, via their local director Ammar al-Selmo, helped explain how Syrian and Russian forces destroyed the Red Crescent humanitarian aid convoy near Aleppo (ACLOS). It's not a possible genocidal massacre, but worth mentioning here. Over a dozen trucks of aid were destroyed, and it seems perhaps every person helping wound up dead, leaving no survivors. WH claim this is because the attack was so intense they couldn't get near for hours, as people bled to death. Otherwise, they brag of rushing into danger. Do note this wouldn't explain people found alive but wounded all dying eventually.
(edit: Oct 25) Research and analysis suggest the aid convoy was attacked by terrorists on the ground (probably of Noureddin al-Zenki, JaN allies), and its members were likely executed. If this is so, the White Helmets here probably had to know they were helping cover that up. The motive is quite clear: to prevent a wider war against JaN and hopefully to secure war against Russian and Syrian forces instead (see here). The means (control of the area, willingness to murder and lie, and weaponry) are all consistent; all attack site details we can see (so far) are consistent with land-based weapons rebels have - mortars, guns, rockets, RPGs, and the biggest blasts could be caused by a standard "Hell Cannon" round. No one has proven if there was airstrike aspect, but if there was ... we'd need to see good proof who it was. The same motive issues argue against it being Russia or Syria, and for it being someone (US or Turkey?) on JaN's side.(end edit Oct. 25)
On October 16 and 17 claims of whole families were reportedly killed under Russian bombs in East Aleppo. CNN. BBC, etc. cite the US-UK-created White Helmets and French-created Aleppo Media Center to blame more Russian' "bunker-buster" bombs for killing 20 from one family. Records show at least 20 from one family and 13 from another were killed in these two days (note Oct. 25: but the days are disagreed), with an unusually large number of girls and small number of men. Eight young children are shown in photos and videos, wrapped for burial but still in their clothes, all appearing non-mangled and possibly executed, one perhaps with a sliced-open face. (see ACLOS discussion)
On September 19, the White Helmets, via their local director Ammar al-Selmo, helped explain how Syrian and Russian forces destroyed the Red Crescent humanitarian aid convoy near Aleppo (ACLOS). It's not a possible genocidal massacre, but worth mentioning here. Over a dozen trucks of aid were destroyed, and it seems perhaps every person helping wound up dead, leaving no survivors. WH claim this is because the attack was so intense they couldn't get near for hours, as people bled to death. Otherwise, they brag of rushing into danger. Do note this wouldn't explain people found alive but wounded all dying eventually.
(edit: Oct 25) Research and analysis suggest the aid convoy was attacked by terrorists on the ground (probably of Noureddin al-Zenki, JaN allies), and its members were likely executed. If this is so, the White Helmets here probably had to know they were helping cover that up. The motive is quite clear: to prevent a wider war against JaN and hopefully to secure war against Russian and Syrian forces instead (see here). The means (control of the area, willingness to murder and lie, and weaponry) are all consistent; all attack site details we can see (so far) are consistent with land-based weapons rebels have - mortars, guns, rockets, RPGs, and the biggest blasts could be caused by a standard "Hell Cannon" round. No one has proven if there was airstrike aspect, but if there was ... we'd need to see good proof who it was. The same motive issues argue against it being Russia or Syria, and for it being someone (US or Turkey?) on JaN's side.(end edit Oct. 25)
On October 16 and 17 claims of whole families were reportedly killed under Russian bombs in East Aleppo. CNN. BBC, etc. cite the US-UK-created White Helmets and French-created Aleppo Media Center to blame more Russian' "bunker-buster" bombs for killing 20 from one family. Records show at least 20 from one family and 13 from another were killed in these two days (note Oct. 25: but the days are disagreed), with an unusually large number of girls and small number of men. Eight young children are shown in photos and videos, wrapped for burial but still in their clothes, all appearing non-mangled and possibly executed, one perhaps with a sliced-open face. (see ACLOS discussion)
2) First Appearances: Idlib, March 2015, Covering for Chemical Murder Along With JaN
Our
first notice of civil defense (at ACLOS) was in the spring of 2015, in
Sarmin, Idlib province. This is where alleged Germany bomb plot suspect
Jaber al-Bakr later did "humanitarian work" with the White Helmets and
Ahrar al-Sham, in between stints learning about explosives with Islamic
State in Raqqah. (see Christoph Germann, Newsbud) Idlib province is now "liberated" by Islamists and "Talibanized." "No
religious minorities remain," after fleeing, forced conversion, or -
perhaps - murder or abduction. (Landis and Simon at Foreign Affairs)
That's the situation after the late March, 2015 Turkish-engineered conquest of most of Idlib province by a coalition of Islamist forces led by JaN. The White Helmets were emerging by, at the latest, two weeks before this grand offensive. They appeared at least in Sarmin in connection with an alleged chlorine gas attack, via helicopter-dropped "barrel bomb," on the night of March 16. This is said to have killed a family of 6, including 3 babies seen dying on video, as later shown at the United Nations by ambassador Samantha Power for emotional effect (BBC). Clearly, this is an important incident, and one we studied in depth (ACLOS (talk) page).
That's the situation after the late March, 2015 Turkish-engineered conquest of most of Idlib province by a coalition of Islamist forces led by JaN. The White Helmets were emerging by, at the latest, two weeks before this grand offensive. They appeared at least in Sarmin in connection with an alleged chlorine gas attack, via helicopter-dropped "barrel bomb," on the night of March 16. This is said to have killed a family of 6, including 3 babies seen dying on video, as later shown at the United Nations by ambassador Samantha Power for emotional effect (BBC). Clearly, this is an important incident, and one we studied in depth (ACLOS (talk) page).
2a) WH-JaN Cooperation on Sarmin Attack Media Message
Evident from that time was the solid crossover of members and interests
between Idlib Civil Defense and the ruling terrorists of Jabhat
al-Nusra (JaN). The video collaboration, is one obvious sign. One
apparent White Helmet, but allowed to work without the uniform, is seen
here hosting daylight videos for JaN's Sarmin branch (the logo is JaN
flag flying from a golden "Sarmin" in Arabic - سارمين ) Dubbed Mr. 21
for the number on his sleeve, he's explaining the previous night's
alleged chlorine attack. (ACLOS)
Below the same expert is seen the night before - still not in full uniform or even helmet. He's sent with another WH rescuer in full uniform with a helmet camera, as they rush to the site of the alleged chlorine attack. Already he seems to know a lot about the crime scene and guides the other guy, but no people are left to rescue. And the other guy seems to run like hell at the sight of what looks like massive pools of blood.
Below the same expert is seen the night before - still not in full uniform or even helmet. He's sent with another WH rescuer in full uniform with a helmet camera, as they rush to the site of the alleged chlorine attack. Already he seems to know a lot about the crime scene and guides the other guy, but no people are left to rescue. And the other guy seems to run like hell at the sight of what looks like massive pools of blood.
2b) Running With a Baby
The next glimpse the morning of March 17, also in Sarmin - a video stamped with the JaN logo, analyzed here at ACLOS, shows an odd sequence including the first noted White Helmet running-with-a-baby scene. An ambulance races to the scene of reported violence, trailed by a cameraman as it turns down an alley to a smoking site with rubble. But it seems nothing happened here and everyone turns around. Then a large truck pulls into the intersection from the south (see map below), effectively blocking the ambulance in.
The next glimpse the morning of March 17, also in Sarmin - a video stamped with the JaN logo, analyzed here at ACLOS, shows an odd sequence including the first noted White Helmet running-with-a-baby scene. An ambulance races to the scene of reported violence, trailed by a cameraman as it turns down an alley to a smoking site with rubble. But it seems nothing happened here and everyone turns around. Then a large truck pulls into the intersection from the south (see map below), effectively blocking the ambulance in.
Just
then, a van arrives from the north, and a few men rush out. One carries
a baby, and another following wears a gas mask. This Jabhat al-Nusra
cameraman follows, and they all pile into another van yet facing east in
the intersection. It has the now famous blue-and-yellow civil defense
logo in the rear window. Hurriedly, they drive off to the east, the gas
mask man now holding the baby, who seems okay except for bloody socks,
but curious what the hell was going on.
This
is one of the strange things they're involved in, perhaps a clue
where the White Helmets get all these babies from to be seen running
with. The van came from the north; a ways to the north are the Shia
villages of Foua and Kafraya, still holding out against rebel occupation
but occasionally raided, with abduction. There are other people, Shia
or otherwise, worth stealing in other areas too - besides other reasons
they had this injured baby.
2c) Tennari's Clinic, Non-Chlorine Deaths, White Helmets, and "Fate"
That
baby winds up in a certain clinic, shown to have a genuine foot injury
under those socks, and now cries in pain. This place is called Field
Clinic in Sarmin, supported by various charities, including Doctors
Without Borders, and was run by Dr. Mohammed Tennari. This member of the
Syrian-American Medical Society later emerged as a prolific,
globe-trotting, and ridiculously unreliable propagandist. He's seen here
(on the left) speaking to the US congress with his translator, Mouaz
Moustafa, director of war freak John McCain's Syrian Emergency Task
Force.
We later placed that clinic (center on larger map above, and see below).
We later placed that clinic (center on larger map above, and see below).
Dr.
Tennari would report his clinic struck by 11 airstrikes, with the last
one, in October 2015, blamed on Russia and completely destroying it (ACLOS).
As proof, they have a photo of a room clearly trashed by people inside,
with no walls or windows damaged. White Helmets video shows the two
blasts were both half a block away, and we can see the cameraman injured
in the blast gets up and limps into the untouched clinic.
Back
to the alleged chlorine attack this first sighting centers around - the
victims were seen dead or dying in this same clinic. This was given as
the Taleb family - 3 young children (aged 1-3), the mother, the father,
and paternal grandmother. They supposedly were fatally exposed in their
basement apartment. Somehow despite the caustic gas burning their lungs,
they never figured out how to walk out of the two open doors or the
giant hole in the wall seen on video (see above). Note: chlorine does
not make you pass out or anything - it motivates you to get get to fresh
air ... except with everyone in this family?
The
rescuers seen here seem to be proper White Helmets only in part. Some
men in civilian clothes do the baby-running here, after men in
traditional firefighter garb hose them down. (right: baby Sara rushed
into the clinic by a man in a gas mask) Others in white helmets assist,
stand aside, or record videos. Some wear the proper uniform, but it
seems they don't have the logos on the back, while scenes from Sarmin
ten days later do show the logo there (new uniforms, impostors, or what?
ACLOS discussion)
Interestingly, the Civil Defense logo appears on ubiquitous blankets used at Tennari's clinic that night, but done in gold and black, instead of the usually gold and blue. One of these is used to cover the babies' dead grandmother Ayosh. She's laid out in the emergency room, not the morgue, for lack of space they say. Then the dead or dying girls Sara and Aysha were rushed in and laid on top of her for failed resuscitation efforts. See below, a screen grab from JaN's video, and I just noticed that blanket has the White Helmets logo with Jabhat al-Nusra in Idlib colors! What an appropriate design for this cooperative venture!
Interestingly, the Civil Defense logo appears on ubiquitous blankets used at Tennari's clinic that night, but done in gold and black, instead of the usually gold and blue. One of these is used to cover the babies' dead grandmother Ayosh. She's laid out in the emergency room, not the morgue, for lack of space they say. Then the dead or dying girls Sara and Aysha were rushed in and laid on top of her for failed resuscitation efforts. See below, a screen grab from JaN's video, and I just noticed that blanket has the White Helmets logo with Jabhat al-Nusra in Idlib colors! What an appropriate design for this cooperative venture!
Again,
this is the clinic run by the shady Dr. Mohamed Tennari. He said he was
there that night, leading the efforts to save those babies. There are
two emergency room videos, one by JaN and one by the Idlib Civil
Defense, that between them cover the
crucial five minutes as the children die. These show Dr. Tennari was not present at all (see Where was Dr. Tennari?).
He also makes nonsense claims: chlorine fumes off the babies made him
sick and made a nurse faint. But chlorine doesn't cause fainting, nor
does it rise and cause secondary exposure - especially from people that
were were already stripped and washed.
A look at the children also reveals they were never exposed to chlorine.
Instead of violent coughing, skin burns, red tearing eyes, they're
pale, limp, unresponsive and don't even visibly breathe. In fact they
seem dead; one reportedly was, the other two not. And infant Mohamed at
least is just comatose; one attempted breath is seen on the White
Helmets ER video, but before and after that, he appears dead. Further,
no one in this "emergency room" does anything to help him breathe, and
so he naturally dies (see What Killed the Talebs?).
The deaths are blamed on "Assad," and less directly on the world community's supposed inaction. Our best guess what killed these babies, based on the indicators, is a deliberate overdose with a CNS depressant drug, like morphine or demerol, aggravated by improper diagnosis and medical neglect. Grandma Ayosh actually appears more like a chlorine victim, but signs say chlorine was made at the apartment not by any bomb but by people pouring chemicals together in mass amounts. (the apparent pools of blood - see Terrible Flaws in OPCW's Syria chlorine investigation) The father isn't clearly seen, and the mother not at all, but it seems all too likely this whole family was somehow murdered with chemicals here in JaN turf.
The deaths are blamed on "Assad," and less directly on the world community's supposed inaction. Our best guess what killed these babies, based on the indicators, is a deliberate overdose with a CNS depressant drug, like morphine or demerol, aggravated by improper diagnosis and medical neglect. Grandma Ayosh actually appears more like a chlorine victim, but signs say chlorine was made at the apartment not by any bomb but by people pouring chemicals together in mass amounts. (the apparent pools of blood - see Terrible Flaws in OPCW's Syria chlorine investigation) The father isn't clearly seen, and the mother not at all, but it seems all too likely this whole family was somehow murdered with chemicals here in JaN turf.
So
... if there really was a place
filled with chlorine, these babies were never in it, and so no one ever
removed them from it. This disconnect may not have been known to
everyone on the
ground, but should have been clear enough to wonder about as they
claimed with certainty just what happened.. Dr. Tennari, his colleagues
in the nascent White Helmets, or at least Jabhat al-Nusra themselves
must know who those Syrian people were, and why they had to die this
way.
Who were the victims really? Dr. Tennari says the father, Waref al-Taleb, was a casual friends in town, who recently fixed his phone. But in an earlier report he called the Talebs strangers from the next town. By names, no other Talebs were killed in the area at this time, but grandma Ayosh apparently had several relatives in the Sarmin area killed by alleged regime bombing in the following days. (ACLOS)
As White Helmets chief Raed Saleh said in May, 2015 about this incident: “One of the children died in silence before we got to the hospital. We did what we could to save her, but dying in silence was her fate. Death in silence before the whole world.”" (The Guardian) The other two (Aysha and Mohammed) had the same basic fate, but they died after they got to that "emergency room." That really seems more like a dying and blame chamber, with clearly more care to documenting death than to preventing it.
In truth, this "fate" was determined not by God - theirs or anyone's - but by the foreign powers who have created the chronic motive for this endless death. Once it's uniformly blamed on "Assad" or allies, it all goes towards perpetuating and escalating the foreign intervention. And by the basic laws of supply and demand, the intervention's Islamist proxies in Syria keep supplying the corpses, whatever it takes.
And the White Helmets are often there to apportion some of the blame to "fate" (God's work) and other parts to "Assad" (the devil).
Who were the victims really? Dr. Tennari says the father, Waref al-Taleb, was a casual friends in town, who recently fixed his phone. But in an earlier report he called the Talebs strangers from the next town. By names, no other Talebs were killed in the area at this time, but grandma Ayosh apparently had several relatives in the Sarmin area killed by alleged regime bombing in the following days. (ACLOS)
As White Helmets chief Raed Saleh said in May, 2015 about this incident: “One of the children died in silence before we got to the hospital. We did what we could to save her, but dying in silence was her fate. Death in silence before the whole world.”" (The Guardian) The other two (Aysha and Mohammed) had the same basic fate, but they died after they got to that "emergency room." That really seems more like a dying and blame chamber, with clearly more care to documenting death than to preventing it.
In truth, this "fate" was determined not by God - theirs or anyone's - but by the foreign powers who have created the chronic motive for this endless death. Once it's uniformly blamed on "Assad" or allies, it all goes towards perpetuating and escalating the foreign intervention. And by the basic laws of supply and demand, the intervention's Islamist proxies in Syria keep supplying the corpses, whatever it takes.
And the White Helmets are often there to apportion some of the blame to "fate" (God's work) and other parts to "Assad" (the devil).
Al Asad is a torturing tyrant, just like his father.
ReplyDeleteEnhanced interrogation techniques, not torture!
DeleteEnhanced interrogation techniques, not torture!
DeletePaco, and Nova, who see to be friends (?): yeah, that's a widely-held opinion. See article above for my refuations and then hey, just repeat the opinion again, huh?
DeleteAs for the generational tyranny claim you guys and so many others are on about ... love you crusaders against it. Assad got power from his dad, not the people! (up 'til 2012, that was true). In Libya, there was danger of the same! Thank God we stopped that. Y'all must stand firm against this ... with the Saudi royal family that has ruled father-to-son for nearly 300 years! Why do y'all love running round with twisted priorities?
back to torture: there are many kinds alleged in different times, but if you're on-topic, we have verbal descriptions from an unrealiable source, an official document ordering reported abuses to be stopped immediately, and the only serious thing proven is what's seen in the Caesar photos. Those don't show torture so much as starvation, neglect, and mass gassing. It's more a holocaust-style mass extermination thing. The photos also show - when you really study them - how it was quite likely terrorists did all that to supporters of the government and/or their religious enemies. So of course you won't get far with me citing these as evidence of Assad torture. Nor would it convince me of the need to help the head-chopping Saudis overthrow Assad and bring "democracy" to the Middle East, with their proxy forces like Jaish al-Islam, who might be behind the recorded extermination.
Starving prisons to death is not torture?
DeleteThat's arguable, but I meant they weren't all lashed, etc. Starvation can be more passive, neglect (they show medical neglect too, which would be torturous). Semantics aside, the main issue is who. I say, reasons supplied at the links, terrorists were neglecting and torturing these poor Syrian people.
DeleteSorry, okay ... if you were on-topic for my NEW post (almost would be, interestingly). Where does torture and dynasty come up at all here? You kids are off-topic, besides annoyingly vague and duped. Either have a defense of the White Helmets that's relevant to an attack I lodged above? That would on-topic.
ReplyDeleteConsider the August, 2013 Latakia village massacres by JaN, Ahrar al-Sham, ISIS, and others in a broad team effort (ACLOS).
ReplyDeleteOne of the more prevalent lies about the dirty war on Syria, for example, is that there are so-called “moderate rebels”. This false cover for certain terrorists groups furnishes Western powers with pretexts for illegally arming and supporting terrorism in Syria.
Syrian resident Lilly Martin describes the crimes committed by the so-called “moderate” Free Syrian Army (FSA) on August 4, 2013, in Ballouta, a small village near Latakia, Syria:
The FSA went house to house killing everyone in their path. Whole families were wiped out. One pregnant woman was seized and her stomach cut open and the fetus hung in a tree.
There were many survivors, despite the fact that 220 dead bodies were later counted at the hospital in Latakia. The survivors made their way to an empty school in Latakia and took shelter there until the village could be freed by the Syrian Arab Army on August 17, 2013.
During the sectarian massacre, 100 small children and a few females were kidnapped by the FSA. They were taken as captives to Selma, which was and still is occupied and held by the FSA. The children and females were tortured. They were all held underground without sunlight. One boy had his eyes gouged out, and another boy was shot through the head.About 2 weeks later the FSA used those children to create a video.
They drugged the 100 children and arraigned them in poses on the floor to appear dead. They created many videos using their captives as actors. The video was sent via cell phone to a contact person in Damascus. It was that person who later uploaded the famous Sarin Chemical attack video on YouTube.com
http://www.globalresearch.ca/empire-perpetrates-its-dirty-war-on-syria-beneath-the-protected-cover-of-big-lies/5557199
The ISTEAMS report suggested a possible link with a large scale abduction of children in Ballouta, Northern Latakia, just two weeks prior to the East Ghouta incident.
‘We refer also the list of the victims of the invasion of 11 Alawite villages in Lattakia the 4th of August 2013, where 150 women and children were abducted by Jobhat Al Nosra’ (ISTEAMS 2013: 43).
http://www.globalresearch.ca/chemical-fabrications-east-ghouta-and-syrias-missing-children/5442334
https://counterpsyops.com/2013/08/21/syria-medics-uncover-latakia-massacre/
http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Latakia_Massacres
The “Moderate Opposition”, the Children from Ballouta, and the Sarin Gas Attack on Eastern Ghouta
ReplyDeletePublished On: Fri, Oct 10th, 2014
http://nsnbc.me/2014/10/10/combating-propaganda-machine-syria/
The FSA terrorists came into Ballouta for the purpose of sectarian cleansing. The people of Ballouta are Muslims of the Alowi sect. The FSA are exclusively Sunni Muslims
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The FSA is the armed wing of the Syrian National Coalition (SNC) located in Istanbul, Turkey.
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The founding members are members of a political party called Muslim Brotherhood, which is a global party and is outlawed as a terrorist organization in Syria and Egypt
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When the news broke about the massacre in Ballouta, initial reports stated the killers were members of several Radical Islamic terrorists groups, but not FSA. However, almost immediately the than President of SNC, George Sabra, hailed the massacre of Ballouta as an important victory for the FSA, and predicted the fall of the Assad regime.
Additionally, the SNC website supported the sectarian massacre at Ballouta, and greeted the military victory there.
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How would a group of kidnapped children end up killed in a gas attack 6 hours drive time away from Ballouta, and how would the terrorists manage to move them undetected all that way, when there were government check points all along the way between Ballouta and Damascus?
They were never moved.
The video was produced in Selma by the FSA. The video was silently and effortlessly transferred to Damascus by cell phone, and then uploaded to YouTube.com
It was important that the video be uploaded at the place of the sarin gas attack. East Ghouta is a suburb of Damascus, the capital of Syria.
Belated reply: there's no evidence "the video" was produced in Salma. Some videos were filmed in the Ghouta area, by detail-matching. These scenes account for about 400 dead - nearly all those ever shown must have been in the Ghouta area, not across the country. The alleged matches were never shown, can't be verified. About half of the kidnap victims do seem unaccounted for, but that's only about 128. They did go off the radar early, so it's possible those were cashed in on something, but they're not in Ghouta or the body arrays verified as being there ... there are other entries for victims, with and without pictures, that can't be placed, and might include up to 128 or so Latakia victims. But I doubt it. The other half are reported freed in different batches from 2013 to 2017. See http://libyancivilwar.blogspot.com/2015/12/latakia-massacres-hostages.html
Delete- 242 captives, 17 killed right away = 225 tallied early
- 43 released over next months, 54 still held 2 years later,
- 58 released Feb. 9, 2017 (ACLOS)
- (54-58)+43=97-101 released. 225-(97-101)=124-128 unaccounted for. I put 111 because there was a 17 (months) in the text and I subtracted it, because another 17 had meant people killed... duh. Will correct that now.