Last edits Sept. 20, 2012
(new wiki link Nov. 18)
The original article "Behind the Scenes of the Al-Baida Massacre" has been moved here.
"Al-Baida" wasn't necessarily the location, for one thing, which remains unsettled.
Original article, first published March 30, 2011, as Behind the Scenes of the Al-Baida Massacre - one of the first articles plugged in as this site was started a month later.
Further Behind the Scenes - quick updates from April 30 - a transcript, some other things.
Al Baida Massacre III: Three Killings in February.
From October, the Al-Hassadi Al-Qaeda link and a location-Maktub-come into focus.
Report: Behind the Scenes of an Al Qaeda Massacre
(pretty slick cover at left, report forthcoming, no estimated due date).
Update Sept.20:
Still no report or even effort towards one. Sorry. There should be a more cogent summary of the stuff at the links above, but I'm swamped. However, since this post is getting plenty of views lately, let's take a look at some Al Qaeda / Islamo-nihilist atrocities happening in Syria more recently.
In Douma, near Damascus, the same kind of matching work between rebel captives and murky massacre victims yields fruit more brilliantly than it did here (luckier with abundance of clear visuals). Sixteen regime victims were found, throats slit, rebels said, around Aug. 17, 2012. Only six were clearly shown, and all match with six out of 16 known FSA captives. Those were last seen alive in a video shot by a rebel death squad from the neighboring town (Harasta). (the six seen dead marked here)
See here for the fuller explanation, mostly citing existing work but with a few additions from our own.
See also the expanded Syria page at the CIWCL site for more things relevant things done well.
Quite a few of these YouTube videos are no longer available. I am struck though by the similarity to this YouTube video posted by NadiTr on 23 February,. labelled Executed Soldiers - Sirt Libya (Refused to Kill their own People)
ReplyDeleteAh, never seen that. It's the same, Sirte is just silly. I've seen Benghazi, al Baida, and Dernah specified. I went with al Baida, but Dernah might be closer - one really good source mentions Makhtub, just SE of Dernah, and 22 soldiers. Still no clear location match in the satellite images that I found. An update is pending here, "behind the scenes." For a preview, hunt down a re-post of that article, and it gives the mastermind of their arrest, re-arrest after escape, and app. execution as Ibrahim al-Hassadi, our aQ Afghanistan fighter from Dernah!
ReplyDeleteSee also the same video as NadiTr uploaded the same day by brqnetwork video
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/user/brqnetwork#p/u/23/hSEcHA3t1-M
entitled فيديو لجنود تم إعدامهم في درنه بعد رفضهم الأوامر بقتل video of soldiers executed in the dirt for refusing to obey orders to kill protesters.
Some of this is related to the al-Baida massacres. The locations are however mostly wrong.
ReplyDeletePatrick Cockburn: Don't believe everything you see and read about Gaddafi
The Independent, 26 June 2011
THE HRW REPORTS ARE REALLY PROPAGANDA SHOWS ….
Delete” Human Rights Watch has been documenting human rights violations in Libya since 2005, pressing the former Gaddafi government to halt an array of abuses, including torture, forced disappearances and political killings. During the uprising last year, we extensively documented war crimes committed by pro-Gaddafi forces across Libya, including in Misrata.”( almost of that documentationsAgainst Gaddafi ARE FAKE! )
WE MUST REMEMBER HRW SPEND ALL TIME HID NATO ATROCITIES & MISRATA VIOLATIONS ARE SO MONSTRUOSES THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO IGNORE. HRW sponsoreted so MUCH MISRATA CRUELTY that they feel free to Film and show the world How they act! HRWASH CRUELTY OF MISRATA, now they want to stop the BloodyStorm …
http://dputamadre.tumblr.com/post/20714736291/letter-to-misrata-councils-regarding-serious-crimes-by
A gruesome discovery at the base of the officially sanctioned "pro-government" Rafallah al Sahati Brigade after it was taken over by the Save Benghazi protesters.
ReplyDeleteAmong the dead were five soldiers; a sixth was seriously wounded. All the soldiers were found with their hands tied behind their backs and a gunshot to the head, medical sources said.
Libya says all unauthorized militias will be disbanded
By Ned Parker, Los Angeles Times, September 23, 2012
Other sources say the six soldiers were bodyguards of an officer of the regular Libyan Army kidnapped earlier.
A photo of the bodies from some TV screen capture is here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QG6FW_9I-A
ReplyDeletenearly at the end of the vid @ 4.20 you can hear one killer shout about labraq
so the massacre must have taken place on 17 february or shortly after that acc to rebel martyrs lists :
15 Hossam Mohamed Alaclai Abraq 2011-02-17
http://i41.tinypic.com/240yiy1.jpg
ReplyDeleteIs it a coincident that one can see the presence of the men with the long dark coats
at the same time one can see the dead bodies of soldiers who refused to give their country to nato?
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Benghazi 18 february
What happened during the invasion of Alfadeel Security compound
@ 00.24 black coat man
@ 00.51 @ 00.59 @ 1.00 @ 1.03
@ 6.21 @ 6.29-6.35@ 7.38 @ 7.42 @ 7.45
[note that bodies in white are for muslim burial, green bodysacks not]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8g0MMFiP58
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxOEzgnqViE&feature=channel&list=UL
@ 4.15 – 4.16 - 4.35 misrata black coat man playing with the heart of a soldier [ or a volunteer]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_ZpxAv-J7Y
@ 0.05 misrata a black coat man 18 -03 -2011
http://i42.tinypic.com/eq9ffn.jpg
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Do members of the in february performed local councils wear these long dark coats?
In some misrata vids one can see a man with a long dark coat busy with shooting
Could that be :
Latif says he works a "shift" between noon and midnight before being replaced by a colleague who takes the weapon they share. The men here used to only have knives and an AK-47 for every 10 of them. Some only had a few cartridges to go with them. Now they have Belgian assault rifles brought in by boat from Benghazi.
http://freethoughtmanifesto.blogspot.nl/2011/04/misuratas-sniper-war.html
Before all this, Latif was a history teacher. He liked teaching, especially about the time of King Idris, who ruled the country before Gadhafi took over power in a 1969 coup.
The other snipers include a diver and an airplane mechanic.
Latif also studied for two years in the former East Germany, in Saxony's Bad Düben.
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A pity that the german Der Spiegel has removed the photo reportage of the shooters more than a year ago
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Remembrance Day in Tripoli Poppy or Armistice Day 10 November 2013
to honour all those who lost their lives during the Second World War in Libya,
Linking the event to Libya, the German ambassador, Christian Much said :
end the violence which too often is leading to the death of innocent people.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=421840697917363&set=a.332140543554046.58009.332139386887495&type=1&theater
http://www.libyaherald.com/2013/11/10/remembrance-service-held-in-tripoli/#ixzz2kOZX2vE8
Benghazi was not safe enough as location for The Poppy or Armistice Day on 10 novembre 2013
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE3u6SGfkj8
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http://i44.tinypic.com/2afz6nm.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2m5b3x0.jpg
Libya in crisis - Monday 21 February"We found 150 corpses burning and we believe they were the bodies of officers and soldiers who refused to follow orders to fire on the the people," a Libyan man who spent a number of years in the UK before five years ago to his home city said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edaYpnsoreY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKvEPnTccN4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-lkyX_nRbI
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11 Nov 2013
“If anyone remembers the first months of the revolution, Libya was a different country.
A different country from Gaddafi’s regime and a whole different country from now,” said Taha al-Barghati, whose cousin, Colonel Ahmed Mustafa al-Barghati, was gunned down outside the family home.
Everyone’s seen the hit list – Taha told me that six more of his family members are on it.
http://blogs.channel4.com/lindsey-hilsum-on-international-affairs/libyas-revolutionaries-greatest-threat-revolution/3010
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45577838@N08/5625806188/in/photostream