Tuesday, June 5, 2012

See-Through Salem: Arrested?

May 22, 2012
Last update June 4/5

<< See-Through Salem {Masterlist}

I thank Hurriya for this tip on a new development reported by the Green Libyan Facebook group "شباب ليبيا الأحرار علي الفيس بوك لنشر الحقائق من أجل ليبيا الغد" [Libyan Liberal Youth on Facebook to spread the facts for Libya's Future?] and nowhere else I've seen.

  It's a photo showing armed men in semi-military and civilian clothes carrying a chubby, short, pale-bellied man across a bridge. One wields a club-like object in a seemingly threatening way, and others carry rifles. The attached info, in Arabic, then English Google translation.

 مرتزقة الناتو يضربون ويجرون طبيب في مركز طربلس الطبي _____________________________________________ هذه الصورة ليست في سجن أبوغريب و ليست في معتقل غوانتانامو... !! هذه الصورة في مركز طرابلس الطبي وهكذا تمت معاملة الدكتور "سالم الفرجاني" بعد حضوره لإدارة المركز لاتمام إجراءات التسليم و الاستلام, هذه هي ليبيا الجديدة هذه هي الديمقراطيه هذه هي العدالة وحقوق الأنسان التي وعدوا بها الشعب وخدعوا بها العالم في اوضح صورها وبأيدي من يسمون باللجنة الامنيه العليا المؤقته طربلس

 Auto-translated: NATO mercenaries beating and dragging a doctor at the Tripoli Medical Center _____________________________________________
 This photo is not in the prison of Abu Ghraib, not at Guantanamo Bay ... !! This image in the Tripoli Medical Center, and so has the treatment of Dr. "Salem Ferjani" after attending a management center to complete the procedures for delivery and receipt, this is the new Libya This is the democracy of this is justice and human rights that were promised the people, deceived by the world in the clearest images and the hands of the so-called Committee Supreme Security temporary Tripoli
---
See-through Salem, the transparent fixer of rebel war crimes, fake witness (aka Dr. Salim Rajab/Rajip/Rajub), manager of other poor-performing and over-used fake witnesses, and the NTC's former co-chair of the national missing persons commission, chronicler of Gaddafi crimes, crusader for bereaved familes and the truth, important contact and evidence-gatherer for human rights groups, the UN, and the ICC. Allegedly, now, arrested and dragged out of his workplace by forces ostensibly loyal to the NTC / prevailing NATO-backed militia force.

 Why? Did the NTC suspect he's been pranking them, being way too obvious on their dime and discrediting them more than necessary? For the record, I have wondered if he was doing this on purpose to discredit the NTC with his antics. I think he has done that a bit, with help from me and other site members/contributors. But in reality, he's not much worse than most of the people given the delicate and almost impossible task of fooling people like us. The rebel crime-fixers are all transparent to differing degrees (the other Dr. Salem (Qasr) at AbuSalim trauma hospital, for example). This guy was probably trying to help, just like all the others, and is only an idiot who lacks nuance and discretion.

He should not be killed, tortured, or even dragged out like a criminal like this for being an idiot. If there's another specified crime he's being detained for, I do hope the authorities will publicly announce it.

 I have left some comments, Google Arabic, at that page asking for more information. If I get any more details, from there or anywhere, I'll pass it on here. For now, a blown-up detail of the photo. The resolution is not adequate to tell much in this zoomed-out view, but that could be Dr. Al-Farjami, and the Libyan youth say it is.
May 23: Still awaiting information. Additional postings:

Rebel posting, no arrow, but snowflakes (?) http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?id=196059987096192&l=21096e7d8a&pid=1000592
Auto-translated caption suggests more sympathy to the arrest as lawful: Tripoli Medical Center - some of the counted on "Higher Security Committee" Apply (the law) to the doctor [Salem Ferjani] as shown in the picture

Un-marked, with gunmen named?: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=467993616560638&set=a.217452284948107.69715.217308438295825&type=3&theater
Auto-translated caption suggests a mundane reason for the arrest: "it is Dr. Libby is called d. Salem Ferjani In the Tripoli Medical Center, and Chahdhm carry it assumes Almariz at Abu Ghraib prison, they are members of the Supreme Security Committee of Tripoli, and the story revolves around the minutes of the delivery and receipt of the management of the center and the intransigence of the previous administration in the delivery, although the Ferjani has a mandate from the Ministry of Health to complete the process of receipt."

There are some other reflections, including this tweet from Leo
NATO mercenaries dragging Dr.Salem Ferjani out of the Tripoli medical center: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=337047939701449&set=a.154538474619064.40814.154528817953363&type=1 Thx for your support @matt_vandyke !
I'm not so good with Twitter understanding, but I gather Van Dyke, the pro-rebel journalist/activist was following Leo's stream until he was blocked a few days prior to this arrest. Leo mentions a pro-NTC "Press solidarity" reporting a lot of thing, it seems including this (thanks Petri). http://presssolidarity.net/رئيس-اللجنة-المكلفة-لاستلام-مركز-طراب/
Again, auto translate:
Was yesterday, Monday, Chairman of the Committee in charge of the receipt of the Tripoli Medical Center were attacked by a group, it was said as belonging to the management of the Tripoli Medical Center. According to sources, "news agency solidarity" during an interview that took place between the Director of the Tripoli Medical Center Khaled, Chairman of the Committee conferred upon, receiving center, a number of armed personnel to manage the medical center by dragging and dragging them to a vehicle and taken to an unknown location. Picked up and reported the existence of separate Chairman of the Committee of the Supreme Security Committee. And tried to "news agency solidarity" Contact manager Tripoli Medical Center and Chairman of the Supreme Security Committee and Security Committee of Tripoli and the Ministry of the Interior; to see fuller details about the incident to no avail. News Agency of solidarity - a special
A comment from there adds... something.
Certificate of debt I am the presence of the position the person my father and then his arrest was one of the ousted Imran melons and Alqirdafa has jumped on the doctors and staff at the center with the knowledge that our parents Qdu him are the military police after he himself Bstdaahm and massage for the purpose of the threat and after the submission of documents from one employee to the elements Military Police condemn this person is called a Salem Ferjani Anao was a member of the Revolutionary Committees and the former was arrested by military police and thank you ..

WOW
Update, June 4/5
So, Did that just say he had been part of the Gaddafi-era committees that basically ran things? And he was allowed to take a leading role in the clownish seach for the "truth" of Gaddafi's crimes? That would support all-too-clearly my stranger suspicions here.

The ambiguity we began with is no more. I just got a tip from an astute reader that, yes, this is Dr. Salem. The Guardian has just yesterday reported on it and wow, is this getting interesting. He was beaten and, by some definition, "tortured," but still alive. There's sudden controversy over the identified NTC thug unit that arrested him. He's reportedly been threatened not to speak out, but is speaking out, and is thus reportedly in hiding in Tripoli. I do hope he's picked a good spot, can lay low and keep quiet for the moment, or get away entirely, and let the rest of us hash over his S.O.S. Check this out:
Libya sees claims of beatings and human rights abuses as elections near By Chris Stephen, the Guardian, June 3, 2012.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/03/libya-security-force-kidnapping-surgeon

Some quotes:
Members of an elite unit set up by the Libyan government to rein in the country's rival militia forces have been accused of kidnapping and severely beating one of the country's foremost surgeons. The abduction appears further evidence that 10 months after taking over, Libya's new interim government has failed to curb human rights abuses, and is seemingly incapable of controlling either the militias or its own security force. It comes as the country faces its first national elections later this month – a key test of whether Libya is heading towards democracy or violent secessionism. Salem Forjani, a heart surgeon working for the health ministry, was seized on 17 May when he went to Tripoli medical centre – the city's largest hospital – on orders of the health minister to remove the director, who was accused of links with the Gaddafi regime.
But Salem allegedly had his own G-link, and it was he who was arrested. Was it some kind of set-up? It seems so. Mr. Stephen continues:
Instead, he was confronted by members of the government's supreme security committee (SSC) waiting in the director's office, who dragged Forjani through the hospital, beating him so badly he lost consciousness in front of horrified staff. A fellow medic photographed Forjani being carried, his shirt off, spreadeagled, down the hospital's ambulance ramp while an SSC soldier threatened to shoot unarmed hospital security staff giving chase.
That's the photo. The world thanks this medic, and the others who tried to help. Continueing:
The SSC troops bundled the doctor into a car and incarcerated him in a base at Naklia, a suburb of Tripoli, where he was beaten and kicked so hard in the groin that he was left with a ruptured testicle. Forjani escaped with his life. But for five days neither his family nor health minister Fatima Hamroush could find him, or even get confirmation he was still alive. Finally, after he had been moved to a second facility, at Tripoli's Mitiga airport, the SSC contacted the health ministry and released him, having failed to charge him with any offence or even explain the reason for his capture.
I have a good guess for the reason. It's one that, if true, would remain unstated. On the surface, he's been the essence of anti-Gaddafi, and was so at least from February 2011, he says keeping careful track of what was really happening as the dead and injured came through TMC, keeping files to prove it. (It's the intentional clown theory, but there are others at least as likely that would also be left unstated. There can be little legitimate reason to do this.)

Mr. Stephen reports moves are underway to keep the man safe. "Diplomats are quietly lobbying Libya's government to issue a guarantee of safety for Forjani." Guarantee? Ha. A call returned, and a statement of sympathy, maybe.

Sorry, can't stop quoting:
Now the surgeon is in hiding in Tripoli, having been warned of reprisals if he speaks out. "I don't know how this could happen, this is a new Libya," he told the Guardian. "I kept asking them, who are you, why are you doing this?" 
What has shocked many Libyans, with the photograph now going viral among Facebook users, is that Forjani is a leading light among human rights groups. He sits [sic?] as an expert on the government's missing persons commission and chaired an investigation into a massacre of prisoners by the Gaddafi administration, a report distributed to the United Nations and the international criminal court.
We'll have our own report on that subject fitting that description quite soon. One more update needed, obviously.
His kidnap and torture, and the silence with which it has been met by the government, has left many Libyans fearing for the future. "This is kidnapping," said his brother, Salah, an official with a Libyan human rights group. "It [the SSC] is more powerful than the police and that is the intention."

"It was not supposed to be this way," Stephen continues, explaining the SSC, which I hadn't really heard of. It was established under the interior ministry "as a means for the state to gain control of security from Libya's patchwork of militias." Reportedly drawing its members "from both former rebels and disbanded Gaddafi-era internal security units, has become a law unto itself," one now widely feared in the capitol especially. The hospital's director (see below), and a Health ministry official have been threatened by the SSC, they say, who used their abuse of Al-Farjani as a demonstration.

The NTC "government" hasn't arrested anyone or started an investigation. Stephen reports, the interior ministry refuses to return calls, and an NTC representative cancelled a meeting to discuss it.
Last month, the United Nations special representative, Ian Martin, raised concerns at the UN security council in New York. "The interim mechanism called the supreme security committee, with some 60,000 to 70,000 fighters registered, had, to some extent, provided a unified command," his report states. "It was essential, however, that the committee not become a parallel security."

Yet this is precisely what critics claim the SSC has become. When her official was kidnapped, health minister Hamroush wrote to interim prime minister Abdurrahim el-Keib and president Mustafa Abdul Jalil, begging for help. "We have had no answer," said health ministry official Hussam Bubash.
The mystery of this episode is just mysterious. Consider the director of the TMC, where Al-Farjani ran his alleged operation all those months, whom Farjani was sent to relieve (replace?). Dr Khalid Urayath stands accused of Gaddafi loyalism, and of squandering money on trips abroad (outside of Libya? Gasp!) for hospital staff. But he can't be removed, for some reason. He says he in fact tutored Muammar Gaddafi's mysterious daughter Hannah, explaining "The best cardiovascular surgeon in the country is me, very humble to say it. You cannot say no to the Colonel." He's also "a fellow of the UK's Royal College of Surgeons," the report adds, who just last month "secured an offer of computer equipment from the British Libyan business council."

Dr Khalid Urayath – the director of Tripoli medical centre, whom Forjani was sent to relieve – remains unrepentant. He is refusing to step down, saying he is supported by hospital staff and this makes irrelevant the wishes of the health minister. Forjani's kidnap came during the fourth attempt this year by health ministry officials to order Urayath to step down. When he refused, Forjana, acting on instructions from the health minister, called the general prosecutor's office to ask for help from law enforcement officers.
Did they set him up and have him call the thugs on himself? Again, they were waiting for him "in the director's office" when he got there. The SSC thugs working with the alleged loyalist? (What had happened during the previous failed efforts of an alleged loyalist sent to get rid of an accused loyalist?)
"He was calling on armed forces," said Urayath. "You know why they [the SCC] used force on him? Dr Salem (Forjana) was trying to escape down the stairs – he was trying to escape. They took him in care and took him to the site of the SSC, they put him there, they interrogated him."
This guy sounds off. They took Salem in and beat his gonads to a pulp because he tried to escape? The thing he wanted to escape from, perhaps connected to the interrogation, the why behind the why, is left unexplained.
...following Urayath's refusal to step down, the health ministry's plans to reform a health service left in chaos by the Gaddafi dictatorship are in tatters.
Yes, blame the "brutal 42-year rule" when all the sickeningly shitty parts of it are only surfacing the last year or so. There will surely be more news on this, and I'll try to stay abreast of it.

57 comments:

  1. Thanks, Felix. Not much of help there, except a view without the arrow. Nothing much on the reason he was hauled away or by exactly whom.

    ReplyDelete
  2. Google Image Search helps:

    This may be the original story:

    Chairman of the Committee in charge to take over the Tripoli Medical Center is under attack
    Was yesterday, Monday, Chairman of the Committee in charge of the receipt of the Tripoli Medical Center were attacked by a group, it was said as belonging to the management of the Tripoli Medical Center.
    According to sources, "news agency solidarity" during an interview that took place between the Director of the Tripoli Medical Center Khaled, Chairman of the Committee conferred upon, receiving center, a number of armed personnel to manage the medical center by dragging and dragging them to a vehicle and taken to an unknown location.

    Picked up and reported the existence of separate Chairman of the Committee of the Supreme Security Committee.

    And tried to "news agency solidarity" Contact manager Tripoli Medical Center and Chairman of the Supreme Security Committee and Security Committee of Tripoli and the Ministry of the Interior; to see fuller details about the incident to no avail.


    There is also a comment:
    Certificate of debt I am the presence of the position the person my father and then his arrest was one of the ousted Imran melons and Alqirdafa has jumped on the doctors and staff at the center with the knowledge that our parents Qdu him are the military police after he himself Bstdaahm and massage for the purpose of the threat and after the submission of documents from one employee to the elements Military Police condemn this person is called a Salem Ferjani Anao was a member of the Revolutionary Committees and the former was arrested by military police and thank you ..

    ReplyDelete
  3. The photo doesn't look like the Tripoli Medical Centre (Zawiyah Street) Strange no further photos or news.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I think it is the very same ramp where David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy were walking when they visited the Tripoli Medical Centre in September:

      David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy in Libya – gallery

      Incidentally, this is one of the few photos that shows all five of the greatest war criminals in Libya.

      Delete
    2. could it be :
      Tajura Cardiac Hospital

      http://www.tripoliclinic.com/index.html

      http://www.temehu.com/Cities_sites/Tripoli.htm
      http://www.pictures2.temehu.com/p2/map-of-tripoli.jpg
      map of some hospitals

      http://www.pictures1.temehu.com/p1/tripoli-centre-map-details2.jpg
      hospitals beneath second ring road abu saleem , al khadra ,tripoli medical center



      Note 22 aug 2011 :
      During the afternoon, rebels pulled back from an area near Green Square, in what they claim was a plan to launch a coordinated offensive elsewhere. Rebel forces in Tajoura said they were negotiating with loyalist forces, holed up in the local hospital, to surrender.[73]
      http://revolutionaryprogram.blogspot.com/2011/08/battle-of-tripoli-august-2011.html

      Delete
    3. Sorry, I was thinking of Central Tripol Hospital. TMC has its own facebook page where the matter of the removal of Dr Al-Ferjani was dissected beside an image of an official edict from the NTC,المجلس الوطني الإنتقالي: see here, posted May 23 2012.

      Delete
    4. Petri - past, present and future war criminal Hague is missing from the photo.

      Delete
  4. Coíncidence?


    "it is Dr. Libby is called d. Salem Ferjani In the Tripoli Medical Center,


    by commando team Libby
    Freedom fighters in Libya | Aaaaaaaajl: newspaper Paris-Match:
    Gaddafi in Tripoli was seen and almost caught
    by commando team Libby at ten o'clock Wednesday morning ..

    And after obtaining the "confidential information" from a reliable source according to his hideout to find a quiet house, without ostentation, and is located in the heart of Tripoli .

    But he has already disappeared and was able to escape from the private Libyan commandos.
    And still the process of "stalking" going on.
    مقاتلو الحرية في ليبيا | عاااااااجل: صحيفة باري ماتش: القذافي شوهد في طرابلس وكاد فريق كوماندوس ليبي ان يقبض عليه عند الساعة العاشرة من صباح امس الاربعاء .. وذلك بعد الحصول على "معلومات سرية" من مصدر موثوق تفيد بالعثور على مخبأه بمنزل هادئ ، من دون مباهاة ، ويقع في قلب طرابلس تم. ولكنه اختفى بالفعل واستطاع الهرب من الكوماندوس الخاص الليبي. ومازالت عملية "المطاردة" مستمرة.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. A military source said Libby had been Thursday unveiled a new mass grave in a private farm owned by former Libyan intelligence chief in the system of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi Mansour fugitive light of the 30 bodies of the missing Libyans.

      Delete
    2. Name: Libby finally return home 30/03/2011
      All traitors Sieqbwa but I would say not all who are in the security and the revolutionary committees are the clients of Gaddafi and their hands are stained with blood The membership of the revolutionary committees are sometimes a prerequisite in a lot of business, but not mean they Guetalhosariqan for this should be investigated for traitors real and Haouallah Nerjawa for our country

      Name: Libby 30/03/2011

      الإسم : ليبي سيعود اخيرا للوطن 2011/03/30
      كل الخونة سيعاقبوا ولكن اود ان اقول ليس كل الذين في الامن واللجان الثورية هم عملاء القذافي ويدهم ملطخة بالدماء فعضوية اللجان الثورية هي احيانا شرط اساسي في الكثير من الاعمال ولكن ليس يعني انهم قتالةوسارقين لهذا يجب التحري عن الخونة الحقيقيين وان شاءالله نرجعوا لبلادنا
      http://www.jeel-libya.net/show_article.php?id=25983&section=4

      Delete
  5. http://translate.google.nl/translate?hl=nl&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mashhadlibya.com%2F
    Stores of weapons in the farm .. Khuwaildi displays and concessions to win over Senators

    Of it (Ferjani warming) is one of the most influential Almsalehhien Alnfieaan, one of the top fat cats now who has a direct confiscation of money Libyan
    honorable order of the coordinator of the Revolutionary Committees,
    Muhammad Hidayat, Ferjani warming has seized the money Libyans in the neighborhood of Al-Andalus as (committees raid against the symbols of bourgeoisie), bringing the rotten bourgeois suddenly arrogant humans, one of the fat cats helped himself falsely everything

    .. And deprived others who Artzqgua sweat of the brow .. Ferjani warming was hate before 1982 and opened his so-called will become the district of Al-Andalus committees revolutionary doors Fat as cleansing and looting a lot of money especially residents of Villas neighborhood of Al-Andalus and the sharing of villas and the money that is Mavih

    seized with symbols and fake trivial Tashst in sections and the people Office of the Committee Liaison revolutionary Ferjani warming has become a hand-long system of repressive fascist where he became a judge in the municipality of Tripoli by the Congress of the municipality

    (Assistant Secretary) became his longest as a Coterie utilitarian name of the Revolutionary Committees and People's Action and slogans

    Ferjani warming is to bring belles Ukrainian several times Without Mnassapat only because he (s .. and .. a ... d) of the masters who gave him the length of the hand to become a cat fat Ferjani warming is now Mlaonnerna is the one who controls the market, industry Alasaar and milk and yogurt (and owner of the farm), horses, farms where you have this ???
    Days will not show mercy Halaamthalhm by many to be a dark era in the history of Libya can not talk to me Tsimitha only rule for black donkey

    .... And the rest come ... Tribute of honor to the martyrs of the revolution on February 17 and who are in the front line we are too young to Maystrunh from the date of coming to Libya without Qaddafi dictatorship and tyranny .....

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Sorry, hard to make out, and I'm rushed. "Ferjani warming" is mentioned, but otherwise I'm not seeing any link. Control of markets and dairy? Surely interesting in its own way, whatever this is about...

      Delete
  6. "It will take a few months to work out the number of people missing," says Salim Al-Serjani, vice-president of the newly formed National Commission for Tracing and Identifying Missing Persons.
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21086-libyan-plan-to-trace-mass-graves-and-missing-people.html

    Al-Serjani said that Libya's National Transitional Council has already been working with organisations such as the International Committee of the Red Cross to get Libyans trained to do exhumations properly. "We've already had people trained by outside experts on how to deal with mass graves to avoid misidentifications and collect and store ante-mortem data," he said. "We're training our team how to take and handle DNA samples from corpses, and how to take GPS readings for each new grave."

    Al-Serjani also acknowledged the importance of leaving exhumations to experts and of not disturbing evidence vital for identification of remains, as urged last month by the Red Cross and the International Commission on Missing Persons in Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, which was set up to investigate mass graves following the Balkan conflict of the 1990s. He said that the National Transitional Council has used radio bulletins and newspaper reports to urge former rebels not to disturb or despoil newly found graves.

    Al-Serjani said that Libya's new commission for identifying missing persons would remain neutral on the subject of criminal prosecutions, leaving investigations of possible war crimes to international bodies such as Human Rights Watch. The reason: to ensure justice for the dead on all sides of the conflict. For example, the bodies of 53 executed Gaddafi supporters have been discovered in Sirte. "Regarding criminal justice and human rights, we're trying to be neutral," Al-Serjani says. "The idea is that we are completely transparent."

    So far, the largest mass grave identified contains an estimated 1270 bodies close to the Abu Salim prison in Tripoli.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. not funded ,forgive my crazyness, but serjani also reminds me of :
      Re Hamza- Petri also used auto-translate. It is wrong. The name is Hamza Al-Surmani (I initially thought Al-Sermani).

      Delete
  7. It says the gruesome images that are traded on Facebook sparked a shock to everyone, especially as Ferjani is an important figure in the defense of human rights,
    and worked as a consultant to the government
    in the Office of Search for disappeared persons during the war and he led the committee that investigated the massacres of the previous regime in prisons,
    he presented the report prepared by the Committee to the United Nations and the International Criminal Court

    http://www.alquds.co.uk/index.asp?fname=today\04qpt964.htm&arc=data\2012\06\06-04\04qpt964.htm

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. http://www.ic-mp.org/press-releases/libyas-minister-for-missing-persons-visits/#more-1613
      The Libyan Minister for the Affairs of Families of Martyrs and of

      Missing Persons, Naser Jibril Hamed engaged in a weeklong visit to the International Commission on Missing Persons (ICMP).
      The arrival of Minister Naser Jibril Hamed and six members of the Libyan Ministry is a part of an ongoing process of cooperation and consultations on the issue of missing persons between ICMP and the Libyan Government.
      http://www.ic-mp.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/visit-of-libyan-minister-2055-240x159.jpg

      Delete
  8. The situation & power struggle in Libiya is very dusty by now while the consequences of "R2P" slowly are coming to light

    -there is a supreme security committee , SSC ,an elite Libyan unit , a parallel security.

    -there are the "thuwars" and obvious they are the first security power

    SSC
    -Interim Libyan Justice Minister Ali Hamiada Ashour SSC
    UNSMIL’s police advisors embedded within the Ministry of the Interior continue to provide support in the areas of training, border security, logistics, election security and media outreach. Many Libyans fear the SSC, which recruits from both former rebels and disbanded Gaddafi-era internal security units

    -The behaviour of the SSC is embarrassing for Britain and France, which took the lead in last year's Nato bombing campaign

    ReplyDelete
  9. why Is ferjani arrested by his own gov?

    surgeon Salem Forjani having been warned of reprisals IF HE SPEAKS OUT.

    -Forjana, acting on instructions from the health minister, called the general prosecutor's office to ask for help from law enforcement officers.

    -Instead, he was confronted by members of the government’s supreme security committee (SSC) waiting in the director’s office

    ReplyDelete
  10. - the West seems to become highly embarrassed about their " R2P"creation :

    Libya's Revolutionary Fighters | United States Institute of Peace.[ access denied]
    www.usip.org/.../libya-s-revolutionary-fighters

    -the "thuwars" , with estimated a loss of 2000 , as far as can be counted from their lists , can't keep on blaming all the missing & massgraves on Khadafi

    -- the 'thuwars' secret torture chambers throughout the country and nobody knows how many black people and loyalists are kept or killed . Thousands of people are dumped in anonymous massgraves

    -the 'thuwars' fought together with Nato, bombing away an army estimated between 80.000 - 120.000 defending their home .

    16h/ Dr. Hisham beaten by the rebels for not treating their wounded, and injured, do rebels have enough logic not to understand many hospitals in Libya are faced with shortage of medicine, supplies and equipment?.
    What were the rebels thinking when they first start the war?
    They are beating doctors that have nothing to with shortage of medication in the hospitals.

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1zFbpcpcGkk/T8O1zsKchnI/AAAAAAAAFxU/U12dNqfOqSU/s320/Terror+in+Libya.jpg

    http://libyasos.blogspot.nl/p/news.html
    While many detainees have described their experiences of torture to us, some have proved too scared to speak – fearing harsher torture if they speak out – and just showed us their wounds.”
    http://amnesty.ie/news/amnesty-pro-gaddafi-detainees-killed-and-tortured-libya

    ReplyDelete
  11. after all the killing of many thousand Libiyans the new gov keep on hunting :

    [Salem Forjani, a heart surgeon working for the health ministry, was seized on May 17 when he went to Tripoli medical centre – the city’s largest hospital ] – on orders of the health minister to remove the director, who was accused of links with the Muammar Gaddafi regime.

    ReplyDelete
  12. -there are the UK backed Ghalbouns of libyaalmostakbal ,with their 1996 hype
    [about which evb knows the imprisoned attacked guards & killed them,took their arms ]

    from their list :
    Ali ElFerjani – 1983 – Businessman. He was sentenced to death by the revolutionary court for making contact with the Libyan opposition outside Libya.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw3Rb2GdjCs&feature=related
    Manchester Hisham ben Ghalbon @ 7 . 23

    http://archive.libyaalmostakbal.net/Shohada/victims_of_murder_and_political_assassination.htm
    224 alleged killed by gov 1969-1994 . many involved in assassination attempts

    http://www.libyanconstitutionalunion.net/arab2000.htm
    Sheikh Mohammed Ghalboun,
    http://www.libya-watanona.com/letters/v2011a/v31jan1129mar.htm


    http://www.libyaalmostakbal.net/uploads/images/writers/dr_ali_fergani.jpg
    D Ali Ferjani , complaining about the rebels : Third Alathafa Libyan
    http://www.al-shouraffa.com/?p=8251

    ReplyDelete
  13. National Reconciliation : Dr. Ali Al Sallaby

    -there are the qatar backed Salabi's , one of them went recently to Egypt :
    1ST #Cairo Meeting between #Gaddafi Loyalists and #Libya #NTC

    http://www.echoroukonline.com/ara/articles/130496.html#.T8V41r08vfw.facebook


    people who don't agree :
    To the High Commission to apply the standards of integrity and national according to the laws in force in the body and according to the Law on Election of the National Conference year,
    it is not entitled to any shows former came back and reconcile with the despotic regime
    http://ar-ar.facebook.com/media/set/comments/?set=a.254185527938641.68173.253306464693214

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. إسلاميون يشكرون القذافي ويثنون على إبنه سيف !؟
      الدغيلي أن البيان الذي قرائه المتحدث الرسمي باسم المجلس محمد الحريزي, ليس هو البيان الذي صوّت عليه المجلس الانتقالي في جلسته الأحد الماضي حول تجاوز الصلابي حدود ما كلفه به رئيس المجلس الانتقالي بشأن المصالحة مع رموز النظام السابق .
      و أضافت الدغيلي – رئيس اللجنة القانونية بالمجلس – أن البيان الذي قرأه الحريزي تم تعديله بعد التصويت عليه من أعضاء المجلس ؛ الأمر الذي يُعد خرقاً قانونياً واضحاً في مشروعية البيان – على حد قولها – متسائلة عن الدافع التي تقف خلف تغير الحريزي للبيان.
      وكان الناطق الرسمي باسم المجلس الانتقالي محمد الحريزي، أن “تكليف رئيس المجلس مصطفى عبد الجليل للشيخ علي الصلابي، اقتصر على نقل رسالة إلى العائلات الليبية الموجودة في مصر للعودة إلى ليبيا، وأن المطلوبين منهم للعدالة ستوفر لهم محاكمات عادلة”.
      وجدد الحريزي رفض المجلس القاطع التفاوض مع من وصفهم بأزلام النظام السابق الذين “ارتكبوا الجرائم ضد أبناء الشعب الليبي وهم مطلوبون للمثول أمام القضاء الليبي”.
      ونفى الحريزي، من جهة أخرى، علمه بتقديم بعض أعضاء المجلس استقالاتهم من المجلس احتجاجا على مفاوضات القاهرة، مضيفا: “لا علم لي باستقالة البعض، ربما توجد احتجاجات”.
      وقال الحريزي لـ”الشرق الأوسط” عبر الهاتف من العاصمة الليبية طرابلس: “إن الصلابي لم يكن مكلفا بشكل رسمي من المجلس الانتقالي، إنه تكليف شخصي وليس رسميا، والمجلس ليس مسؤولا عنه”.
      http://www.libyan-politician.com/2012/06/blog-post_05.html
      shamam at large : against reconcilation

      Delete
  14. Both the Libyan National Transitional Council [NTC] and the Libyan Muslim Brotherhood [MB] have rejected attempts by Muammar Gaddafi to negotiate
    http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=25598

    http://it-it.facebook.com/Jerbanews/posts/316615998379987
    Loss of the Muslim Brotherhood in Libya is expected and if there was such a loss, it would be the straw that breaks the back of the American-Israeli project to contain the revolutions of the Arab spring.

    The project (Islamization new) DAI was blessing the Muslim Brotherhood.

    The US-Israeli project promised to them an empire in the region under the condition that the Qatar Centre provided the political and religious reference for this project.

    It seems that Qatar and according to the Islamization specifications of the project pummeled the United States in an embarrassing situation for the case of Libya.

    But that does not mean the loss of the battle of the acquisition of Libya :
    the most important goals of this project is essential, which is the wealth of natural resources in oil and gas.

    What will be an important source of funding for this project for Israel and the United States.

    And which, although raising the slogan of the new Islamism , but in fact is an attempt to contain the Islamic movement and to hold in control of the decision center in which it must be obeyed to the guardians :
    Qatar, U.S. & Middle East.

    ReplyDelete
  15. Where does Belhaj stand : anti qatar ? anti UK exiles ?

    The black vomit of oil profits seep into coffers that are absent popular control. Oil contracts have to be doled out with the NATO member states first in the queue. A salty Islamist, Belhaj, is the most popular figure amongst the masses and his political ambitions must be denied. There is too much at stake for the US, its European allies, and the neoliberal clique that runs the National Transitional Council. They are alert to their responsibilities to themselves as the political grammar is written for Libya. Considerations of geo-politics prevent the views of the Libyans from coming to the surface. Bans on political parties are only one part of the muzzle. An amnesty for the crimes of the thuwars means that their victims feel like strangers in their land, and they hold tighter to their guns. This amnesty is of a piece with NATO’s refusal to allow an evaluation of its bombardments on Libya.


    http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/06/05/convulsions-in-libya/

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v_5jd4Mvvsk

      إسلاميون يشكرون القذافي ويثنون على إبنه سيف !؟

      Islamists give thanks and praise to Gaddafi son, Saif!?

      Delete
  16. Report #Libya : NTC declared it would decided What parties and Officials can take part in elections, and ensure no enemy can get elected

    ReplyDelete
  17. not complete related : another doctor accused of having green ties :

    However, the militia group named after the dead fighter accuses the doctor - who previously treated Colonel al-Gaddafi and is deemed by some to be an enemy of Libya’s “17 February Revolution” - of medical neglect.

    After being seized at his clinic in Tripoli, Hisham Anour Ben Khayal was held at the militia’s base in the city of al-Zawiya, some 40 kilometres away, where he was detained incommunicado and beaten with whips and sticks.

    http://www.amnesty.ca/media2010.php?DocID=1585

    ReplyDelete
  18. Instead, security is being entrusted to a national gendarmerie, the 60,000-strong Special Security Committee (SSC). The pay is good and rebels and former Gaddafi units have joined en masse, but the force is distrusted by the armies of Misrata and Zintan.

    SSC units last month kidnapped and tortured a prominent health ministry official and, despite pleas from the minister, the government has not called them to account.

    Nor has the SSC dared to move against Islamist units in eastern Libya who have vandalised Commonwealth war graves, launched bomb attacks on a UN convoy and a Red Cross office, and last week bombed the US consulate in Benghazi.

    Around the back of the Rixos is a unit of former rebels, the national guard, which is part of the Libyan National Shield, a loose alliance of Libya's militias that bypasses the defence ministry.

    In the first public in-depth study of Libya's militias, Oxford University researcher Brian McQuinn says that militias in Misrata and Zintan are well organised and disciplined.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/10/libya-split-between-militias

    ReplyDelete
  19. get again error 503, hope I don't do the posting twice now


    Instead, security is being entrusted to a national gendarmerie, the 60,000-strong Special Security Committee (SSC). The pay is good and rebels and former Gaddafi units have joined en masse, but the force is distrusted by the armies of Misrata and Zintan.

    SSC units last month kidnapped and tortured a prominent health ministry official and, despite pleas from the minister, the government has not called them to account.

    Nor has the SSC dared to move against Islamist units in eastern Libya who have vandalised Commonwealth war graves, launched bomb attacks on a UN convoy and a Red Cross office, and last week bombed the US consulate in Benghazi.

    Around the back of the Rixos is a unit of former rebels, the national guard, which is part of the Libyan National Shield, a loose alliance of Libya's militias that bypasses the defence ministry.

    In the first public in-depth study of Libya's militias, Oxford University researcher Brian McQuinn says that militias in Misrata and Zintan are well organised and disciplined.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/10/libya-split-between-militias

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. SSC units 2012 - 2013 :

      Asma Magariaf ‏@LibyanBentBladi praying for her father :

      Praying for safety of all at #GNC as they face #SSC gone beyond anyone's control

      @ilibico @LibyanBentBladi thy cant dry them out easly because these men control everything and the entire security situation depends on them

      Delete
  20. Hello Caustic Logic and Team,
    I cited your findings in a long german blog-entry titled "Supreme Security Committee - Pretorians in an imperial province", also highlighting the dubious role of Ban Ki and Ocampo in this story.

    http://tomgard.blog.de/2012/06/10/guardian-abermals-chris-stephen-kam-3-juni-vorgang-13830644/

    best wishes
    TG

    ReplyDelete
  21. @ caustic : are there in the dead & escapee lists names of people of other cities or is it just a cosy cooperation between zintan, zliten,zawiya , misrata militia funneling there deads of battle inside the shed?

    But we are nationalists and refused to," Alajmi Ali Ahmed al-Atiri said

    http://news.yahoo.com/photos/alajmi-ali-ahmed-al-atiri-head-brigade-captured-photo-194306487.html
    "We interrogated them and so we got a number of calls from the government ordering us to release them. But we are nationalists and refused to," Alajmi Ali Ahmed al-Atiri said
    http://m.therepublic.com/view/story/BRE858053/US-LIBYA-ICC

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Another example is Zintan, half of its inhabitants were fighters who participated in the movement that brought down the regime in Tripoli., The other half of the fighters are the people of Misrata.
      http://www7.almanar.com.lb/french/adetails.php?eid=68019&frid=21&seccatid=61&cid=21&fromval=1#.T9YZ8Ex4Iqc.twitter
      Autre exemple, la ville de Zentane, dont la moitié de ses habitants étaient les combattants qui ont participé au mouvement qui a provoqué la chute du régime à Tripoli., sachant que l’autre moitié des combattants sont les habitants de Misrata.

      Delete
  22. Physicians for Human Rights - PHR - picked up the story on June 5:
    http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/press/press-releases/beating-and-imprisonment-of-libyan-doctor-is-decried.html
    PHR's Stefan Schmitt [who wrote the "forensic crime scene report" of Yarmouk]: "When I was in Libya last year I got to know Dr. Forjani through my work advising the Ministry of Martyrs, Wounded, and Missing Persons".
    PHR mentions in the same press release their Yarmouk shed report, 32nd Brigade Massacre: Evidence of war crimes and the need to ensure justice and accountability in Libya by Richard Sollom and Hani Mowafi (December 2011) but does not mention the fact that Dr Forjani / Al-Ferjani / Rajub who may or may not live next to the shed compound was the key propagator of the official narrative which makes no sense whatsoever (except for some funny reason to PHR, HRW and Anmesty International) to an intelligent critical observer. Indeed PHR cannot even maintain consistency with the doctor's name: "PHR expresses its sincere gratitude to Dr. Mohamed Othman and Dr. Salem Al-Fergani for their
    inestimable support in carrying out this investigation."

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Quote:
      When I was in Libya last year I got to know Dr. Forjani through my work advising the Ministry of Martyrs, Wounded, and Missing Persons.

      How can you expect someone to be impartial and objective in their "investigation" if they at the same time are advising the Ministry of Martyrs? In fact the very name of the ministry implies it is in fact the Ministry of Truth.

      ***

      More truth from thesame PHR web page:

      Last year, PHR conducted a comprehensive forensic evaluation of the 32nd Brigade massacre which occurred under Khamis Qaddafi on August 23, 2011 in Tripoli.

      In addition to investigating the 32nd Brigade massacre, PHR investigated war crimes in Misrata, (Yeah, this should be interesting... Not!) a town targeted by Qaddafi’s forces during his brutal crackdown on opposition fighters.

      Delete
  23. http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/537627_4840575451376_1319604226_n.jpg
    اختطاف جراح ليبي كبير وتعذيبه يثير مخاوف من تواصل انتهاكات حقوق الانسان على يد ميليشيات الثورة

    مُساهمة من طرف الفاتح ثورة شعبية في الثلاثاء 5 يونيو - 1:18
    اختطاف جراح ليبي كبير وتعذيبه يثير مخاوف من تواصل انتهاكات حقوق الانسان على يد ميليشيات الثورة
    Surgeon Libby kidnapped and tortured

    فيما يضغط دبلوماسيون غربيون بهدوء
    على الحكومة الليبية لاعطاء ضمانات تكفل سلامة الطبيب الجراح فرجاني.
    http://greenlibya.co/showthread.php?t=7475&p=15325
    As Western diplomats quietly pressing The Libyan government to give guarantees for the safety of the surgeon Ferjani.

    ReplyDelete
  24. http://www.libyaalmostakbal.net/news/clicked/23334

    mostakbal/SSC member : Khalifa Belkacem Hfter

    /The fourth Monday of the month of June 2012.

    ReplyDelete
  25. Re "Imran Melons" (main article)

    This is a reference to a former General Director of TMC
    who was arrested in late August 2011,with YouTube footage circa Aug 26.
    The name is Professor Omran El-Shamam M.D. - عمران الشمام - as cited here in 2009
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZBfhXQTYK0 shows him under arrest surrounded by many Africans, uploaded Aug 28.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elYZSnbaW8U , uploaded Aug 24, shows worried Africans being interrogated at TMC.
    "Gaddafi followers and mercenaries at TMC"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQd-hQovOyw shows the director being bundled into a rebel SVU, uploaded Aug 26.
    Quite a tricky place to manage: witness the place bristling with guns and full of "mercenaries" on Aug 21: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh9C9OrZUr4.

    Incidentally TMC was where Megrahi was treated in 2009 and in his last days in mid-April 2012.
    . Al-Aan interviewed the current director, Dr Khaled Mohamed Urayath on April 20 2012:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3OWyRjgqvo - about general health issues.
    Even Senator John McCain dropped by at the end of September 2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4Q8RVbYH0Q

    So, what happened to Dr El-Shamam?

    And the Africans, for that matter.

    If you can stomach it, there is an 11 minute video of the various French, Libyan and UK war criminals visiting the TMC, uploaded Sept 27: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km6n6Y-QnuI Nauseating.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. زار كل من رئيس المجلس الوطني الانتقالي مصطفى عبد الجليل والرئيس الفرنسي نيكولا ساركوزي ورئيس وزراء البريطاني صباح اليوم الخميس مركز طرابلس الطبي.
      وتفقد عبدالجليل وساركوزي وكاميرون جرحى الثوار الذين في المركز الطبي، وعبروا عن مساندتهم للثورة الليبية إلى حين عودة الوضع إلى أحسن في طرابلس وكل إنحاء ليبيا.
      كما تفقدوا غرف العناية المركزة ومعظم الأقسام التي تحتوي على جرحى من الثوار ومن المدنيين التي تعرضوا للضرب على يد كتائب القذافي.
      http://www.frh-ly.com/vb/t16139.html

      Visited by the President of the Transitional National Assembly Mustafa Abdul Jalil, and French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister on Thursday morning, the Tripoli Medical Center.
      And lose Abdul Jalil, Sarkozy and Cameron wounded rebels who are in the Medical Center, and expressed their support of the Libyan revolution until the situation returns to the best in Tripoli and across Libya.
      As they inspected the rooms and intensive care departments that contain most of the wounded rebels and civilians who were beaten at the hands of al-Gaddafi.

      Delete
    2. Fascinating find, Felix. I'm sure that's the reference. I haven't looked at the material yet, but will eventually.

      Delete
  26. So, what happened to Dr El-Shamam?

    I guess the same as to :

    18 feb 2011 , friday, Meanwhile, the paper said that a group of protesters killed the managing director of AL-Galaa hospital in downtown Benghazi, Libya 's second largest city.
    The victim's body was tortured, it added.
    *
    to kill a person and kidnapping, as happened to the Dean of the Faculty of Science, the current Almzoga Faraj was arrested when he was kidnapped and beaten, this did not happen in the era of Gaddafi to you
    الاحتفال بكلية العلوم بجامعة طرابلس بتكريم الدكتور يوسف المهرك

    http://www.alwatan-libya.com/more-21562-40-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AD%D8%AA%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%84%20%D8%A8%D9%83%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%88%D9%85%20%D8%A8%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A9%20%D8%B7%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%B3%20%D8%A8%D8%AA%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%85%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%83%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%B1%20%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%81%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%87%D8%B1%D9%83
    لدكتور محمود جبريل جامعة طرابلس كلية العلوم ليبيا 1
    في تلك الفترة خرج الليبيين بأكملهم مع معمر القذافي وكانت ازهى ايام ليبيا, لا اعلم لماذا لم يتحرك السيد يوسف المهرك وشاكرين والغرياني وغيرهم احتجاجا على القواعد الامريكية والبريطانية والجالية الايطالية التي تحتل ليبيا وكان الليبي يعيش غريبا فوق ارضه, والتي طردها القذافي. لقد كان الليبيين يقولون ابليس ولا ادريس, اقول لكم كفاكم تزويرا للتاريخ وكل من تحرك في تلك الفترة ضد القذافي كانوا من ابناء الاعيان والوزراء ومن لهم مصلحة في العهد الملكي, سنقول لكم ذلك وفي مدرجات جامعاتنا ولكن عندما فقط نشعر ان هناك حرية وليس قتل بالميم ط وخطف مثلما حدث لعميد كلية العلوم

    ReplyDelete
  27. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km6n6Y-QnuI
    the "medical" people cheering sarkozy & cameron
    @ 7 .31 for bombing 100 000 of their fellow country men are complaining nowadays that there is no respect for medical people :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0NaTiSlz-c
    شهادة الطبيب حمزة عن ماحصل له ..وسبب الوقفة الإحتجاجية
    Published on May 27, 2012 by Tripolidoctorunion
    الطبيب حمزة وشرح ماحدث من تجاوزات ضد الاطباء ...وسبب الوقفة الاحتجاجية التى قام بها الاطباء ..ولفت النظر لما يعانيه الاطباء من بعض العناصر التى لا تحترم الطبيب الليبي
    http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=185776808128471&story_fbid=352239311510657

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. http://www.facebook.com/pages/TMC-doctors-room/123985750952202?sk=wall&filter=12
      watch the sick drs room


      Dr. Khalid Muhammad, the Director-General heir of the Tripoli Medical Center
      https://twitter.com/alaantv

      Delete
  28. https://www.facebook.com/The.Knights.of.Janzou/posts/250730415033586
    @janzourKnights
    apparently a SSC group

    ReplyDelete
  29. 13 june 2012 :

    Shootings arround the area of #Tripoli Medical Center (TMC) - police close the roads for security reason - #Libya

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Ooh, that's interesting. You'll have to follow that for me.

      Isn't it sad how long it's taking to overcome the chaos of "Gaddafi's brutal 42-year reign," especially the awkward last eight months of it?

      Delete
  30. Yd shooting arround #Tripoli Medical Center #Libya - police catched 15 criminals which are involved in hijacking - a tunisian women died.
    14 june 2012 / 6 min ago

    ReplyDelete
  31. http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/topstories/2012/02/17/hi-libya-militia-fri-852-8col.jpg
    Militiamen stand in front of the central hospital in Tripoli, where the new government is struggling to control the increasingly fractious groups that overthrew Moammar Gaddafi. (Ismail Zitouny/Reuters)/February 17, 2012

    ReplyDelete
  32. Report #Libya : Libyan people want end to Brutal NTC Militia's countless protests against it in both east and Western libya. But NTC refuses / 21 june

    Report #Libya : NTC Official declares that Militia's warlord Rule of streets is better then police or national army... Thats NTC in short..

    ReplyDelete
  33. Ambitious Dr Fatima Hamroush may be seen in this Feb 17 2011video uploaded Feb 20 2011 protesting in Dublin - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4gNUHL3rDA - Solidarity with Libyan people Dublin 17th Feb 2011 . Note also speech by "Peace activist" Patrick Bermingham (i.e. war activist) Listen to his rubbish...based on fake reports and videos. However, this is an nice counterpoint Irish video, from December 2011:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d37NuI0jeV0 - Dublin Commemoration for Colonel Muammar Gaddafi and all the Patriot Martyrs of Ireland and Libya Check his stream.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Front Line Defenders was founded in Dublin in 2001

      http://www.frontlinedefenders.org/libya

      Front Line Defenders has Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations.

      Delete
  34. 10 aug 2012 :

    #Libya: Reports that fire erupted in Fernaj prison, near #Tripoli Medical Center. Some prisoners reportedly escaped after clashing w/ guards

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. #Libya prison update: Escaped prisoners reportedly armed.
      Tripoli SSC forces arrived & cordoned off area, which is now being searched

      Delete
  35. Report #Libya : Clashes continue At #tripoli prison although there are reports that Belhaj brother may have been freed but is unconfirmed
    11 aug 2012

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Report #Libya : heavy fighting in #tripoli as Gunmen Stormed Prison and Killed all of Militia fighters defending #NTC prison in #Tripoli

      Delete

Comments welcome. Stay civil and on or near-topic. If you're at all stumped about how to comment, please see this post.