tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post7513629506024014124..comments2024-03-18T22:03:28.458-07:00Comments on Monitor on Massacre Marketing: The Qawalish Tree Farm Massacre: The Victims, ExhumedCaustic Logichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-31306403746037342772011-12-21T12:48:27.181-08:002011-12-21T12:48:27.181-08:00There is an important point noted by Mohammad Milo...There is an important point noted by <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Mohammad+Miloud+Benhammed" rel="nofollow">Mohammad Miloud Benhammed</a>, the vice president of the <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Mitiga+missing+persons+group" rel="nofollow">Mitiga missing persons group</a> on this <a href="http://rt.com/news/libya-militia-murder-loyalists-303/" rel="nofollow">Russia Today video</a>. Families of dead Libyan Army soldiers and other Gaddafi supporters will claim that their relatives were "civilians caught in the crossfire" – this when speaking to the only neutral party in Libya.<br /><br />With a little pushing and some help from a <a href="http://libyancivilwar.blogspot.com/2011/12/tripoli-massacres-dr-salem-al-farjani.html" rel="nofollow">Massacre Masseuse</a> any dead Gaddafista can be turned into a revolutionary martyr. Who would want to be related to a dead servant of a dead tyrant when a far better afterlife is on offer as an icon of the revolution.Petri Krohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630751579069253718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-77331085344315060432011-10-03T23:47:30.965-07:002011-10-03T23:47:30.965-07:00Who needs UN resolutions?? Thanks for mentioning t...Who needs UN resolutions?? Thanks for mentioning that Guardian article (Revealed June 29) which concludes with the paragraph:<br /><br /><i>The Ministry of Defence said British forces had not supplied any weapons, though the Foreign Office acknowledged the UN resolution could be interpreted in different ways. "Our position is clear," a spokesman said. "There is an arms embargo in Libya. At the same time, UN resolution 1973 allows all necessary measures to protect civilians and civilian populations from the threat of attack. We think that the UN resolution allows, in certain limited circumstances, defensive weapons to be provided. But the UK is not engaged in that. Other countries will interpret the resolution in their own way."<br /> </i><br />No comment.<br /><br />Incidentally there is good <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/thedarksaid007#p/u/6/GWFvaUCK9XU" rel="nofollow">YouTube footage</a> of the strangely witnessed funeral procession up the hillside. Quite a few spectators are taking photos.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-25822586802784504472011-10-03T15:41:31.876-07:002011-10-03T15:41:31.876-07:00We know NATO did that. Britain's role isn'...We know NATO did that. Britain's role isn't usually specified. France actually <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/29/nato-review-libya-france-arming-rebels" rel="nofollow">air-dropped weapons to these mountain punks</a> (revealed June 29) until they were armed enough to <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/29/world/la-fg-libya-weapons-20110629" rel="nofollow">take a weapons depot</a> (on June 29) and then another and soon, to start on their own with the takeovers and killings in Qawalish and other towns...Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-31474414903038956972011-10-02T22:04:40.751-07:002011-10-02T22:04:40.751-07:00From the Guardian,London, 2 October 2011
"How...From the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/oct/02/pm-libya-sceptics-gadaffi-queen?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter" rel="nofollow">Guardian,London, 2 October 2011</a><br /><b>"How David Cameron swept aside sceptics over Libya campaign</b>"<br /><br /><i>"Defence sources say <b>Britain provided logistical support to the rebels</b> in the capital, as well as in the <b>Nafusa mountains,</b> including a bombing campaign that cleared the way for the rebels to come down from mountains towards Tripoli."</i>felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-13464680373803616742011-10-01T06:28:16.780-07:002011-10-01T06:28:16.780-07:00Yes, I had gladly seen the coffins carried by thei...Yes, I had gladly seen the coffins carried by their friends and relatives to be more convinced. I think there was a lot of more emotions at the alleged fake funerals of the old government.<br /><br />Something else is strange for me about the funeral videos: Just a very few viewers at YouTube, nearly no comments. No friends and relatives who are wishing the murders to hell there. Despite the identification the victims are still surrounded by much emotional coldness. <br /><br />Just some ideas I just had, definitely no need to hurry in this "cold case".Peet73https://www.blogger.com/profile/18380551847626151514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-55568356915647190362011-10-01T03:31:16.650-07:002011-10-01T03:31:16.650-07:00Well, I acknowledge it looks solved on the surface...Well, I acknowledge it looks solved on the surface, and that perhaps it's so. But I'm not convinced - our bar is set low for their clownish disinfo antics. I always wondered if they'd get more sophisticated sometime or on some crime. <br /><br />How many people are willing to claim a brother or son or uncle they never had? You wouldn't think it'd be high, but there are a loooot of variables we don't know at work. I can see this one isn't going to be easy to convince others of any possibility it's wrong. <br /><br />I agree on the calmness of the crowd. I did catch two boys in rebel shirts, one with head bowed, acting bereaved ... just acting? No one elseseems to bother. <br /><br />The lack of ID for the black victims mixed in remains a mystery. And the location isn't settled - I just found one possible match, and it's in Alumblyab, not behind the scout camp. Will post back with that.<br /><br />And there's still the odd-seeming "Gaddafi soldiers." And FWIW, the camera filming that is not a mobile phone as cited, but a proper camera with big viewfinder. Will finally put that post up, sometime...Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-75864408638695830802011-10-01T02:41:33.981-07:002011-10-01T02:41:33.981-07:00So now the case is solved by the rebels...
You...So now the case is solved by the rebels...<br /><br />You're point that none of the photo’s shows a black face is a good one. And the same applies for the mourners.<br /><br />For me, there is something odd about the mourning community. It's strangely calm, no crying women, no men shouting and swearing revenge. I think it's the most emotionless Arab mourning I’ve ever seen... Family cohesion in Qala'a seems to be in a bad state.<br /><br />But of corse this is just a feeling given by the videos, no proof for anything. I'm afraid there will never be a real solution of this case, at least not for many years.Peet73https://www.blogger.com/profile/18380551847626151514noreply@blogger.com