tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post7368124484154800516..comments2024-03-18T22:03:28.458-07:00Comments on Monitor on Massacre Marketing: Khamis Brigade Shed Massacre: Exterior Imagery ChronologyCaustic Logichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-39270133839104661992013-08-06T23:50:06.677-07:002013-08-06T23:50:06.677-07:00Nice comment we have provide transportation servic...Nice comment we have provide transportation services <br />you can visit our site Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09927726132174445879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-39550988272644819312012-05-22T15:22:28.117-07:002012-05-22T15:22:28.117-07:00Re road blocks with front loaders: In the Orla Gu...Re road blocks with front loaders: In the Orla Guerin BBC video, <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14670829" rel="nofollow">Libya: Inside Gaddafi's underground fortress<br /></a> Aug 25 2011, last update 19.09, we see both sides of the roundabout blocked off with front loaders at about 1.00. And,hey presto, there is one <b>bading!</b> and it's a sniper and there is suddenly a full blown fire fight (not). It all looks highly simulated for the cameras. No dead bodies (apart from those dumped on the roundabout, visible in the clip)felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-67964439836654635852012-05-02T03:46:06.812-07:002012-05-02T03:46:06.812-07:00I don't like my above theory, by the way. And ...I don't like my above theory, by the way. And when I said "I'm sure the video of downed people and the sniper report are connected" I take that back. It's possible. But in my version, or either, if the two were linked, I think the sniper report <i>would have mentioned that two people were killed</i>, not just scattered. There are possibilities that circumvent that, and we could go on for a while. But it goes against what I just laid out, anyway. <br /><br />I don't know what to conclude here, so I conclude nothing. I'm finding a vague way to work all these pre-conquest fighting reports and a couple other things into a workable couple of paragraphs for the report. Overall conclusion: Faked shooting, no one ever killed or injured by these loyalists, all to show they weren't in control yet (and everyone notes that), because they of course were and knew what was inside they didn't want pinned on them.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-73019077531853442672012-05-01T04:17:17.308-07:002012-05-01T04:17:17.308-07:00It's an interesting theory. I'm sure the v...It's an interesting theory. I'm sure the video of downed people and the sniper report areconnected, but I just can'tsee the one causing the other. It's not just how they step around andignore them, but how they also lay them together on the same truck with the guythey slaughtered and burnt his face off. That to me suggests all three were people the new management didn't like. <br /><br />My best guess ATM on the report and video link: About 7 pm, with media on the way (Al Jazeera), someone decided those two didn't look right to leave with the others. Maybe he also ordered #1 disguised and removed. Thinking too much, he decided to issue a sniper report, in case anyone wondered about the bodies that "just disappeared." They were never to be lumped together with the rest of the dead, the locals clearly claimed by family, the torture man #1 was meant to never be seen (he hadn't watched that video). But the loaders were lazy and got there after the first cameras. <br /><br />Just who, how, why, etc. I don't know. Locals who saw this and snapped, started screaming about devils, rats, raging, committing suicide by rebel one way or another? Two locals, the robed one running after the raging guy was shot, but he was downed too, and the first one was run over for fun, etc... <br /><br />That's not all though-out for consistency, just an exercise to show we're only guessing here, with tons of unknown variables. <br /><br /><i>Just imagine this scenario. We go to court. We show the escapees pictures of "crawler" and "runner" and ask them if they recognize them as their fellow captives.<br />- Yes, yes, that is my uncle.<br />- Yes, yes, that is my brother.<br />- I saw with my own eyes how Ibrahim Tajouri shot and killed him.</i><br />It would totally work, unless it could be scientifically proven otherwise, and possibly even then, depending on the stakes for power-holders. (I've read the Lockerbie trial transcripts) Makes me sick.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-8222002954427345542012-04-30T23:21:18.649-07:002012-04-30T23:21:18.649-07:00As I already stated in the post on the new August ...As I already stated <a href="" rel="nofollow">in the post</a> on the new August 26th video, my analysis of the video leads to the following conclusion:<br /><br />At around 7 pm, a crowd of civilians and rebels [at the shed compound] near the barracks scattered under rifle fire coming from nearby residential buildings.<br /><br />I may have used different words, but I could as well have used these.<br /><br />The time could have bit earlier, but it is clear the site remained undisturbed from the moment the crowd run away to the time locals re-entered as seen on the video. On the other hand I doubt the "crawler" could hold his upright position much longer on his last breath.<br /><br />The importance of this evidence is that it shows that a central part of the shed Massacre fable, shooting at people running away from the shed happened late on August 26th, not on August 23rd, as the witnesses claim.<br /><br />Just imagine this scenario. We go to court. We show the escapees pictures of "crawler" and "runner" and ask them if they recognize them as their fellow captives.<br /> - Yes, yes, that is my uncle.<br /> - Yes, yes, that is my brother.<br /> - I saw with my own eyes how Ibrahim Tajouri shot and killed him.<br /><br />The fact is that the "shooting at running captives" twist – like everything else in escapee testimony – hole in the wall, fire extinguisher, hiding behind stack of tires – is suggested by what wannabee escapees see at the site on August 27. If we can show that these artifacts have nothing to do with the events of August 23rd, it blows apart all of their testimony.Petri Krohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630751579069253718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-23289261701077723902012-04-30T15:40:12.368-07:002012-04-30T15:40:12.368-07:00Dang it, that'll have to go in too. It's q...Dang it, that'll have to go in too. It's quite possibly the explanation they offered, knowing a video was just shot, imagining it'd become famous, loyalist gunmen an hour before... Evan Hill arrived later at "Tartouk" if I'm not mistaken, and saw different "loyalist fire." This would have been reported to him for some reason with a time, prior to that video from there. Coincidence, maybe. Truthful explanation, unlikely. They still don't seem to treat these dead as friends. Just more props. And I have a hard time seeing that same relaxed scene so soon after a deadly sniper incident and effective counter-measures to re-secure the area this calmly. Doesn't feel right at all.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-57685186134727450702012-04-30T15:39:30.286-07:002012-04-30T15:39:30.286-07:00Very interesting conjecture.,Petri.Very interesting conjecture.,Petri.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-85083551237346080012012-04-30T15:24:30.005-07:002012-04-30T15:24:30.005-07:00may be long time known description of NYT :
Five ...may be long time known description of NYT :<br /><br />Five other bodies lay outside: one draped in military fatigues,<br />one with his feet bound in green rope,<br />and another in a small box marked “fragile.<br />http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/28/world/africa/28libya.html?_r=1hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-68927213732868159202012-04-30T14:52:38.745-07:002012-04-30T14:52:38.745-07:00Quote: At around 7 pm, a crowd of civilians and re...Quote: <em>At around 7 pm, a crowd of civilians and rebels near the barracks scattered under rifle fire coming from nearby residential buildings.</em><br /><br />Would it be possible that this event happened at the shed? The crawling and the running victim would be the result of this firing. The August 26th video is filmed sometime before 8 pm, so this would fit into the timeline.Petri Krohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630751579069253718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-69304462941508595722012-04-30T06:50:40.326-07:002012-04-30T06:50:40.326-07:00We know from a tweet of Evan Hill,
Evan Hill @e...We know from a <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/evanchill/status/107207843446407169" rel="nofollow">tweet of Evan Hill,</a> <br /><i>Evan Hill @evanchill<br />Followed rebels south through Abu Salim and Salaheddin into Tartouk today, got to Khamis Brigade barracks and came under gun and mortar fire<br />10:48 PM - 26 Aug 11 via HootSuite </i><br /> relating to <b>Tartouk</b> that he was in the area of the Khamis base on the 26th. Perhaps his vanished photos dated from this date? Report <a href="http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2011/08/2011826573517261.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-10958072184049506432012-03-29T17:42:31.328-07:002012-03-29T17:42:31.328-07:00@ felix : here y see rebel writing in the alcove/...@ felix : here y see rebel writing in the alcove/corridor<br /><br />http://image.club.china.com/twhb/1011/2011/8/29/1314589708013.jpg<br />http://club.china.com/data/thread/1011/2730/46/00/3_1.htmlhurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-62285519489315723862012-03-14T02:29:54.350-07:002012-03-14T02:29:54.350-07:00Nothing inbetween - probably to let Sky get the e...Nothing inbetween - probably to let Sky get the exclusive. What did Bruser do with the scoop? Nothing? He was there before Sky. But Bruser was with the Misrata brigade,if first contacts were maintained, and I think Sky was with Tripoli (stand corrected)<br />Someone else came with video cameras on the 27th. forget..felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-52301477818414267072012-03-13T16:51:06.951-07:002012-03-13T16:51:06.951-07:00The Khamis brigade specifically (which is properly...The Khamis brigade specifically (which is properly known as the 32 brigade اللواء32 المدعم ) is located in 4 main locations in Tripoli<br /><br />At the kilometre 27 West of Tripoli (Jidayam) جدايم )<br />At the kilometer 27 East of Tripoli (in front of the Heart hospital ( امام مستشفى القلب<br />Khlilet Alfurjan خلة الفرجان<br />Kasr Bin Ghasheer قصر بhurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-24931720210513406892012-03-13T16:40:14.928-07:002012-03-13T16:40:14.928-07:00The night skies are lit as one of several powerful...The night skies are lit as one of several powerful blasts rocked the Fernej district of southwest Tripoli on August 9, 2011.hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-64872109757611684052012-03-13T16:33:48.698-07:002012-03-13T16:33:48.698-07:00http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=vie...http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20120312&articleId=29724<br />MEDIA DISINFO: Resignations at Al Jazeera due to "Biased Coverage"hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-69153301901491275842012-03-13T15:56:50.054-07:002012-03-13T15:56:50.054-07:00I had meant to check that, but found I didn't ...I had meant to check that, but found I didn't have it saved. Do now. Afternoon 27th, I presumed it would. Is there a gap in coverage there over the afternoon? We see about Sky time, then AFP/France 24 time mostly.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-75949044484567049102012-03-13T15:54:02.774-07:002012-03-13T15:54:02.774-07:00Hm, if Ferjan were mis-typed Furnaj. But there'...Hm, if Ferjan were mis-typed Furnaj. But there's also a place called Furnaj. <br /><br />A link that doesn't work at crisis map would have shown where:<br />http://libyacrisismap.net/reports/view/2128<br /><br /><a href="http://www.tiptopglobe.com/city?i=1367942&n=Al%20Furnaj" rel="nofollow">This shows it, just SE suburb of Tripoli</a>. Aug. 21, fits with what's been reported elsewhere, and sudden appearance of executed people out that way.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-49030713882406446452012-03-13T14:52:50.567-07:002012-03-13T14:52:50.567-07:00Here is a direct link to the tweet:
https://twitte...Here is a direct link to the tweet:<br /><a href="https://twitter.com/#!/feb17voices/status/105067016938991616" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/#!/feb17voices/status/105067016938991616</a><br />Feb 17 voices @feb17voices Close<br />LPC #Tripoli: in Furnaj area gunfire is still audible #Libya<br />3:01 AM - 21 Aug 11 via webPetri Krohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630751579069253718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-27636577095875185162012-03-13T10:59:47.733-07:002012-03-13T10:59:47.733-07:00http://www.r-shief.org/twitter/feb17voices-lpc-tri...http://www.r-shief.org/twitter/feb17voices-lpc-tripoli-furnaj-area-gunfire-still-audible-libya-179098/<br /><br />21 AUG LPC #Tripoli: in Furnaj area gunfire is still audible #Libyahurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-70737737216588210372012-03-13T09:01:14.479-07:002012-03-13T09:01:14.479-07:00@ Petri : maybe y can locate some places with the...@ Petri : maybe y can locate some places with these vids ?<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiINDNNKzWc&feature=related<br />Gaddafi hiding munitions dumps and portable tv station in civilian homes 2 9 11 <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL17NwkMinA&feature=relmfu<br />LIBYA - Arms of Gaddafi's son Khamis discovered by anti-Gaddafi fighters<br />Uploaded by france24english on Aug 31, 2011hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-80933793268697315282012-03-13T08:59:21.543-07:002012-03-13T08:59:21.543-07:00@ petri "I fail to see any proof that the reb...@ petri "I fail to see any proof that the rebels would have reached the Khamis Brigade base on the 26th.<br /><br />Apparently fighting in the area took place many days before the 26 th :<br /><br />On 19 aug the askerie did fire on this company<br />http://i40.tinypic.com/b7fh8o.jpg<br />http://www.almaredcargo.com/libya-en.htm<br />Tripoli: Al Furjan interview Dispenser petrol station - Dakhla Mosque Al Furjan - a distance of 2 km /Airports close to Khallat al Farjān Tripoli international(TIP), Tripoli, Libya (10.5km)<br />The mosque name may be : Dakhla Mosque Al Furjan <br /><br />And NATO bombed al Furjan during many months : <br /><br />http://www.presstv.ir/detail/194634.html<br />Fresh blasts hit Libyan capital <br />The night skies are lit as one of several powerful blasts rocked the Fernej district of southwest Tripoli on August 9, 2011. <br />http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20110819/mazimi20110819053031183.jpg<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvB105RgRUg&feature=endscreen&NR=1<br />Uploaded by libyatears on Jun 18, 2011<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=fjalX4Jjw7Y<br />القصف البربري الغاشم على خلة الفرجان طرابلس مما تسبب بأشتشهاد الكثرين وتدمير المنازل والمباني الادارية والمحلات وترويع الاطفال<br /><br />http://en.trend.az/regions/met/arabicr/1865049.html<br />7 Libyan civilians killed in NATO air strike in Tripoli suburb: state media/21 April 2011,hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-60507919203750422832012-03-13T08:05:06.527-07:002012-03-13T08:05:06.527-07:00http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=2789...http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=2789&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter<br /><br />News media manipulation exposed by freelance journalist's Twitter rant<br /><br />Does Dean have a relationship with British or US intelligence services,<br />and if so what is the nature of that relationship?<br /><br />http://www.bjr.org.uk/data/2000/no2_leigh<br /><br />British journalists – and British journals – are being manipulated by the secret intelligence agencies, and I think we ought to try and put a stop to it.hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-53741071936832079462012-03-13T01:53:00.072-07:002012-03-13T01:53:00.072-07:00These film crews and photographers are at the merc...These film crews and photographers are at the mercy of what they are told, and where they are brought to film. These just look like re-enactments at an empty barracks. Nobody surrendering, shot, nothing. Just war games for the cameras. To me, it's just a diversion.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-58889558067162596362012-03-13T00:25:13.323-07:002012-03-13T00:25:13.323-07:00The AFP video also has a shot of what looks like f...The <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwkCk5wrNCY" rel="nofollow">AFP video</a> also has a shot of what looks like freshly painted red graffiti on the left shed door at the very beginning.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-71772629771140385032012-03-12T19:41:43.164-07:002012-03-12T19:41:43.164-07:00These are the same technicals driving up and al Ha...These are the same technicals driving up and al Hadhbah Road on August 26th we have seen before. <br /><br />The nine-story buildings we see at 1:47 and at the start of the undubbed version are the Saladin (Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn) apartment complex just south of the University of Tripoli. <br /><a href="http://g.co/maps/wtqrh" rel="nofollow">http://g.co/maps/wtqrh</a><br />The time seems to be around 10 am.<br /><br />I have not tried to identify the other buildings. The RPG-guy I believe we have seen before.<br /><br />I fail to see any proof that the rebels would have reached the Khamis Brigade base on the 26th. Then again, it is <em>possible</em> that some other rebel group – maybe advancing from the east – had reached the base perimeter wall on the eastern side. In Sirte we have seen examples of rebels dumping bodies near the front line.Petri Krohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630751579069253718noreply@blogger.com