tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post6586646395664423942..comments2024-03-18T22:03:28.458-07:00Comments on Monitor on Massacre Marketing: Mina Hajj Tragedy: Saudi Arabia Blames IranCaustic Logichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-6069871862722119542015-11-11T23:26:57.752-08:002015-11-11T23:26:57.752-08:00Not new to me, but thanks for the added info. In f...Not new to me, but thanks for the added info. In fact the last AP count I saw was 2,177. I should check now - not seeing any higher numbers reported, but I've been thinking it'll top out with all but a few of the missing being dead as well, for a total of somewhere around 2,900. The more inclusive table at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Mina_stampede" rel="nofollow">the Wikipedia article</a> currently says 2,385 dead, 573 missing. And that's from nations that are counting (most of them, but there were surely some Saudi victims the kingddom won't be speaking for)Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-43262800346889178372015-11-09T09:40:49.985-08:002015-11-09T09:40:49.985-08:00http://the-pessoptimist.blogspot.com/2015/10/ap-de...http://the-pessoptimist.blogspot.com/2015/10/ap-death-toll-at-last-months-hajj.html#more<br />AP: death toll at last month's hajj disaster was three times higher than the Saudis admitted <br /><br />The crush and stampede that struck the hajj last month in Saudi Arabia <br /><br />killed at least 2,121 pilgrims, a new Associated Press tally showed <br /><br />Iran leads all the affected countries, saying it had 465 pilgrims killed. <br /><br />Many of the dead also came from Africa. <br /><br />Nigeria said it lost 199 people, while Mali lost 198, Cameroon lost 76, <br /><br />Niger lost 72, Senegal lost 61, and Ivory Coast and Benin both lost 52.<br /><br />Others include Egypt with 182, Bangladesh with 137, Indonesia with 126, India with 116, <br /><br />Pakistan with 102, Ethiopia with 47, Chad with 43, Morocco with 36, Algeria with 33, <br /><br />Sudan with 30, Burkina Faso with 22, Tanzania with 20, Somalia with 10, Kenya with eight, <br /><br />Ghana and Turkey with seven, Myanmar and Libya with six, <br /><br />China with four, Afghanistan with two and Jordan and Malaysia with one.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-45787574845741531962015-11-01T00:29:17.972-07:002015-11-01T00:29:17.972-07:00NYT reports
"Saudi Arabia has said Iran’s Isl...<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/30/world/middleeast/iran-saudi-arabia-hajj-stampede.html?_r=0" rel="nofollow">NYT reports</a><br />"Saudi Arabia has said Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps orchestrated the disaster." <br /><br />I didn't find anything explaining that yet. <br /><br />Also, ambassador Roknabadi is among the small pool of 65 supposedly dead victims not yet identified (399 have been returned and IDd). He was reported alive at the hospital, but not seen since. (<a href="http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940808000806" rel="nofollow">Farsnews</a>) Was reportedly involved in the Syria situation, may be held hostage as Iran makes its first appearance to negotiate across from KSA on Syria's fate. (see NYT link above) He was "a key figure in Iran’s involvement in Lebanese politics and the Syrian war." <br /><br />"Saudi Arabia viewed Mr. Roknabadi as a mastermind of Iranian operations against its regional allies. He survived a bombing at his embassy and, in private, Iranian security officials say that Saudi Arabia has organized at least two other assassination attempts against Mr. Roknabadi."Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-5361983954240165282015-10-03T23:00:34.340-07:002015-10-03T23:00:34.340-07:00One point to add by comment: I just did the match ...One point to add by comment: I just did the match and the house of Saud has been ruling the Arabian peninsula and Mecca, and running the Hajj, since it came to power in 1744 AD/CE. Islam emerged with the first Hajj in 622 CE (or 0 AH). That means this one extended family has run these things for about 19.5% of the fairly long time Islam has existed. Isn't that crazy?Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.com