tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post4891034280417754699..comments2024-03-18T22:03:28.458-07:00Comments on Monitor on Massacre Marketing: John Burns, Propaganda Robot, Clunks Into BattleCaustic Logichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-54738083177531762732012-02-13T07:14:06.763-08:002012-02-13T07:14:06.763-08:00http://www.nlpwessex.org/docs/shaylergatehtm.htm
T...http://www.nlpwessex.org/docs/shaylergatehtm.htm<br />The Shaylergate Files <br /><br />How MI6 Sponsored Al Qaeda In Libya<br /><br />http://www.stateofpakistan.org/british-secret-service-mi6-paid-al-qaeda-to-kill-gaddafi<br /><br /><br />The document was reportedly written by Islamic activist Mohammed Busidra [network is formidable: it includes the long-banned Muslim Brotherhood; the February 17 Martyrs’ Brigade], organizing Libya’s mosques into a political machine<br /><br /><br />that Britain has not designated LIFG a terrorist organization is significant<br />several prominent leaders of LIFG live in London & Manchester<br />Noman Benotman&fellow militants benefited from British training programmes:<br /><br />Noman Benotman :Al-Haraka Al-Islamiya Al Libiya Lit-Tahghir<br /> moved to Sudan where he forged close links with Bin Laden<br />http://www.globaljihad.net/view_page.asp?id=1979<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZn8eVzBZT0<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8673021/Islamists-blamed-for-killing-General-Abdel-Fattah-Younes-as-Libyas-rebels-face-up-to-enemy-within.html<br />Islamists blamed for killing General Abdel Fattah Younes <br /><br />http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/component/content/article/61-press-releases/842-latest-libya-briefing.html<br />Q and A with Noman Benotman <br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/component/content/article/61-press-releases/767-briefing-paper-building-a-libyan-coalition.html<br /><br /><br />http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/images/stories/pdfs/libya28feb.pdf<br /><br />‘Building a Libyan coalition for overthrow khadafihurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-62432671825308908422012-02-13T02:50:06.925-08:002012-02-13T02:50:06.925-08:00Tried to assassinate Gaddafi even. Thanks, all tha...Tried to assassinate Gaddafi even. Thanks, all that makes total sense and helps explain it. I still don't like it, but all in all, I'd say it's proportionally at least no worse than the different type of torture the West uses for lesser crimes. They do it different - in Libya, think Akhchiba. In Oceania, think Bradley Manning, or Winston Smith.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-20204546897155591362012-02-12T21:37:11.602-08:002012-02-12T21:37:11.602-08:00George Washington was a concentration camp command...George Washington was a concentration camp commandant.Tawerghahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15512069051931936233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-29177619526070337562012-02-12T21:17:50.342-08:002012-02-12T21:17:50.342-08:00".....but the mainstream media have refused t..."<i>.....but the mainstream media have refused to join the dots back to the coup attempt in 1996. </i> (comment <a href="http://markcurtis.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/britain-qadafi-and-the-libyan-islamic-fighting-group/" rel="nofollow">here</a>)felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-27979138637509670252012-02-12T18:05:28.868-08:002012-02-12T18:05:28.868-08:00Here is a more detailed explanation of the executi...<a href="http://elragihe2007.maktoobblog.com/1632681/%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%87%D8%AF-%D8%A5%D8%B9%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D9%87%D9%8A%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%B7%D9%84-%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%84/" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is a more detailed explanation of the execution video. (Google translation)<br /><em>You will see a bar here (YouTube), a document is very important picture shows where the terrifying footage of how horrific brutality - unrivaled - in which it was the execution of the hero martyr "Abdul Salam Khchibh Gaddafi" - an officer of the tribe and walked Alqmazfah! - This incident took place at Camp Azizia door between 1995 and 2005, the date is not specified precisely so far! - When he tried this officer Libyan assassination of the tyrant as was filmed moments of the execution of Mr. "Khchibh" inside the camp gate Azizia orders of Gaddafi was then view these clips brutality by closed-circuit for all officers in the camps in Libya, as a matter of spreading terror in their hearts and scare them and warn them of the consequences of attempt to rebel For this reason, the tyrant of the crime scenes filmed for use in broadcast his message of terrorism and the promotion of terror among the Libyan people, especially in the ranks of the Libyan army!!! ..... He thought the tyrant it has been restored to him and his children forever, but came to him of God, where is calculated and oppression by any oppression!? .. [The wrath of thy Lord, too] ... where killed by the rebels evil killers after he captured him and Ozloh, kicked and Tmoh and spat on his face ugly! .. Tyrant died in a shameful and humiliated unrivaled race of cruel punishments, which was exercised throughout the years of his reign against his opponents!! .. Matt, a tyrant Alzenam taste the bitterness of defeat, humiliation and shame ...! Glory to God the mighty avenger! ..! ... God is great and thank God with glory in heaven and earth!.</em><br /><br />Come to think of it, Gaddafi came to power as a young officer through a military coup. What a role model he would make for future wannabe usurpers.<br /><br />The first decades of independence or revolution is difficult for any nation. Just how many times did the British conquer Washington DC before the death of George Washington? Being a father of a nation is even more difficult. You <em>need</em> to be a tyrant.Petri Krohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630751579069253718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-83061187072637204622012-02-12T16:58:18.009-08:002012-02-12T16:58:18.009-08:00The video, labeled The murder of Abdul Salam Akhch...The video, labeled <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8tDLiq9w-M" rel="nofollow">The murder of Abdul Salam Akhchibh [by] Gaddafi</a> is shocking. It seems to show murder, lynching, barbarity – except it shows none these.<br /><br />There is <a href="http://www.firstpost.com/topic/place/libya--video-b8Wfb7uhclM-613-1.html" rel="nofollow">a page here</a> that gives more detail in English:<br /><em>Torture and public execution of the martyr Abdel Salam Akhchiba in 20 december 2005 inside bab al aziziya coumpound in Tripoli by units of Gaddafi' s militia called "Brigade Megarief</em><br /><br />This is not a lynching, it is an execution. It is not a public execution, but happens in a closed military base. The executed man is not a civilian, but a soldier, a lieutenant in the Libyan Army. His crime, most likely some <a href="http://alqumaa.net/vb/showthread.php?t=84154" rel="nofollow">form of treason</a>.<br /><br />Military justice is different from civilian justice. it is swifter and more brutal. Unless you die, it may also be more forgiving. Brutality is part of the punishment. In lesser crimes, it counts as time off.<br /><br />Capital punishment is still practiced in the US, and universally used in the Arab world. The fact that it is "medicalized" and sanitized in the US makes it no less cruel. The public executions in Saudi Arabia are far more vulgar.<br /><br />In principal I oppose capital punishment. In the most serious crimes against peace – as in the case of Libya – I would still like to see the perpetrators hanged. On my list there are about four people, two of them heads of government.Petri Krohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630751579069253718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-48778236639403848772012-02-12T00:53:39.788-08:002012-02-12T00:53:39.788-08:00I watched that video and I must say, any governmen...I watched that video and I must say, any government that can act like that does indeed have problems. In my opinion, from my values system, which I'm pretty comfortable with. IF it's as (I presume) it's advertised. Sorry, didn't watch it closely though. The building? He's bleeding but not moving, so I think alive but quite unconscious and probably dying from the repeated head stomping. <br /><br />It'll rile people up. It might get quite a few people killed. <br /><br />Should never have happened, of course not. These are bad things and, I fear, harbingers of more. This is getting blatant, and apparently accelerating, and it could lead to a major confrontation once it gets right to Iran. WWIV anyone?Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-86790737926913336372012-02-11T03:58:58.801-08:002012-02-11T03:58:58.801-08:00Thanks, Caustic, without you and your other contri...Thanks, Caustic, without you and your other contributors I often feel I am in the minority in this whole sad debacle that IMHO should never have happened. <br /><br />EQWaliserEdward Quentin Waliserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03266260304110634734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-10732638000979396212012-02-11T03:51:48.208-08:002012-02-11T03:51:48.208-08:00To quote you, "There is a 'reason' fo...To quote you, "There is a 'reason' for this. If you kill as many regime supporters now, you won't get problems later. Libya had a small population as it is - Lots of deaths now for those on the other side of the conflict and also the decrease via mass expulsions, relocation of migrant workers etc would mean less people to share the pie"<br /><br />You are giving reasons for precisely the same actions attributed to Gadaffi we have been indoctrinated to believe in for decades?<br /><br />Of course kill opposition=simplistic solution for some cultures. Perhaps Gadaffi took such an action but it was his decision and not understood by the West. <br />Yet, in the West we merely lockemup (600k now in USA in prison?) NDAA is coming, if not here already?<br /><br />"No reason to?" Well look <a href="http://www.iwishihad.com.au" rel="nofollow"> NATO </a> targeted this family and denied doing it. Now Khaled is suing NATO.<br /><br />We are now getting numerous viral vids from NTC & supporters to justify an action that wasn't necessary. (IMHO)<br /><br />This <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8tDLiq9w-M&feature=share" rel="nofollow"> one </a> has (apparently??) resurfaced from a long time ago and is about to go viral!<br /><br />Perusing, it 'seems' to be a current 'mock-up.' The bloke in pyjamas (?) seems to be not the one extricated from within the building that went in? Maybe a dead body? There's lotsa blurring and one cannot say for certain? Don't speak Arabic so unknown what is said.<br /><br />Thanks, Felix, your holiday in Malta cleared a lot of questions within my memetic understanding.<br /><br />EQWaliserEdward Quentin Waliserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03266260304110634734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-17944708999616508642012-01-17T13:14:42.550-08:002012-01-17T13:14:42.550-08:00A couple of points:
a)Because we have never felt ...A couple of points:<br /><br />a)Because we have never felt a bomb or other war weopons, expecially the new high tech ones you may not be aware that many of these weapons completely disintegrate all body parts. Empty coffins does not mean people did not die. Some coffins had bits and pieces as remains.<br /><br />c)It is not the case that NATO will kill civilians as a means to an end - by accident but not purposely as there is no reason too.<br /><br />There is a 'reason' for this. If you kill as many regime supporters now, you won't get problems later. Libya had a small population as it is - Lots of deaths now for those on the other side of the conflict and also the decrease via mass expulsions, relocation of migrant workers etc would mean less people to share the pie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com