tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post3641672086597536379..comments2024-03-18T22:03:28.458-07:00Comments on Monitor on Massacre Marketing: Khamis Brigade Shed Massacre: Charred Victims ImageryCaustic Logichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comBlogger87125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-47928469859950584682012-04-20T08:12:03.212-07:002012-04-20T08:12:03.212-07:00malformed link...corrected
http://www.laif.de/webg...malformed link...corrected<br /><a href="http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?UURL=48c4493811abd04993584174ebb05e8f&IMGID=18163422" rel="nofollow">http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?UURL=48c4493811abd04993584174ebb05e8f&IMGID=18163422</a>felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-28771118868965564542012-04-19T22:18:42.669-07:002012-04-19T22:18:42.669-07:00Last one by Tyler Hicks of the NYTLast one by <b>Tyler Hicks</b> of the NYTfelixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-74943720613064931762012-04-19T22:14:10.219-07:002012-04-19T22:14:10.219-07:00Yuri Kozyrev has quite a few more images at http:/...<b>Yuri Kozyrev</b> has quite a few more images at <a href="http://www.laif.de/webgate/" rel="nofollow">http://www.laif.de/webgate/</a><br /><br />Search terms warehouse, Tripoli, Massacre etc. bring up some more images....<br /><br /><a href="http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?UURL=b55c7bedc44b8682a872ec302f5526f7&IMGID=18163353" rel="nofollow">http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?UURL=b55c7bedc44b8682a872ec302f5526f7&IMGID=18163353</a><br /><a href="http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?UURL=b55c7bedc44b8682a872ec302f5526f7&IMGID=18163422" rel="nofollow"></a><br /><a href="" rel="nofollow">http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?UURL=b55c7bedc44b8682a872ec302f5526f7&IMGID=18163422</a><br /><a href="http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?UURL=b55c7bedc44b8682a872ec302f5526f7&IMGID=18163425" rel="nofollow">http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?UURL=b55c7bedc44b8682a872ec302f5526f7&IMGID=18163425</a><br /><a href="http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?SECTION=SEARCHRESULT&IMGID=18163429" rel="nofollow">http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?SECTION=SEARCHRESULT&IMGID=18163429</a><br /><a href="http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?SECTION=SEARCHRESULT&IMGID=18163351" rel="nofollow">http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?SECTION=SEARCHRESULT&IMGID=18163351</a><br /><a href="http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?SECTION=SEARCHRESULT&IMGID=18163350" rel="nofollow">http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?SECTION=SEARCHRESULT&IMGID=18163350</a><br /><a href="http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?SECTION=SEARCHRESULT&IMGID=18163345" rel="nofollow">http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?SECTION=SEARCHRESULT&IMGID=18163345</a><br /><a href="http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?SECTION=SEARCHRESULT&IMGID=18163329" rel="nofollow">http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?SECTION=SEARCHRESULT&IMGID=18163329</a><br />plus one from <b></b>, also dated 27 Aug.<br /><a href="http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?SECTION=SEARCHRESULT&IMGID=17.14193130" rel="nofollow">http://www.laif.de/webgate/preview.php?SECTION=SEARCHRESULT&IMGID=17.14193130</a>felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-29856803523474339182012-04-18T23:00:53.319-07:002012-04-18T23:00:53.319-07:00One photographer who visited the shed seems to hav...One photographer who visited the shed seems to have nothing available. Most of the Libya photos of <b>Heidi Levine</b> are <a href="http://heidilevine.photoshelter.com/gallery-list" rel="nofollow">behind a wall at Photoshelter.</a> However, <a href="http://laurenmwolfe.com/?p=179" rel="nofollow">journalist Lauren Wolfe</a> on 14 Jan 2012 quoted Levine:<br /><br /><i>We met a man on the road who had photographs of people he told us had been killed in a massacre. Pointing, he told us where to go. We found at least 50 burnt bodies in a construction site nearby the Khamis Brigade Compound in Tripoli. I never truly understood how opposite black and white were until we walked into a shed to find the victims burned down to their skeletons. I kept asking others with me who had covered war and witnessed horrific scenes throughout the years if they had ever seen anything like this. They—we—all answered no. Those days have filled my head with ghosts.<br /><br /></i> Reminds me a bit of the words of the song Woodstock... Why no photos??felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-24424392438759319092012-04-14T21:10:52.272-07:002012-04-14T21:10:52.272-07:00VT` - the TVE1 video also appears on their own web...VT` - the TVE1 video also appears on their own website at <a href="http://www.rtve.es/noticias/20110827/rebeldes-aseguran-controlar-95-tripoli-frontera-tunez/457664.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.rtve.es/noticias/20110827/rebeldes-aseguran-controlar-95-tripoli-frontera-tunez/457664.shtml</a> The blue prison van has already been moved in front of the shed, about 1.pm 27 Aug.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-89073944032998835402012-04-13T21:19:50.551-07:002012-04-13T21:19:50.551-07:00One further photographer to visit the shed was Jer...One further photographer to visit the shed was <b>Jerome Sessini</b>. Only one photo exists on his Getty images <a href="http://www.reportagebygettyimages.com/jerome-sessini/libya-august-2011/#" rel="nofollow">Libya August 2011</a> page, showing skeletons. However, he also has a few photos there of Abu Salim, and on another, his personal site, there is an interesting photo of dead victims at Abu Salim <a href="http://www.jeromesessini.com/#/series/a-lassault-dabu-salim/SEJ11011DC4934" rel="nofollow">http://www.jeromesessini.com/#/series/a-lassault-dabu-salim/SEJ11011DC4934</a> which has the interesting caption <i>"Loyalist soldiers executed by anti-Gaddafi rebels in Abu Slim on August 24..." </i> from where the rest of his photos can be navigated (need to transfer this comment)felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-23858339115371601642012-03-27T22:04:26.186-07:002012-03-27T22:04:26.186-07:00@Petri - I think it is probably a screen grab from...@Petri - I think it is probably a screen grab from a video which is listed at the Spiegel site, but is no longer available there: 28.08.2011 - 1.08 min <b>Gräuel in Libyen: immer mehr Leichenfunde</b><br /><i>Eine woche nach dem Fall des langjährigen libyschen Machthabers Muammar Gaddafi in Tripolis werden immer mehr Leichen von...</i><br />It also perhaps appears at the site of <b>Stern.de</b> again de-activated, with the title : <b>Opfer des Regimes: Immer mehr Leichenfunde in Tripolis</b>felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-7424809307059057572012-03-27T14:58:10.466-07:002012-03-27T14:58:10.466-07:00I do not know if you have listed this image, that ...I do not know if you have listed this image, that has only been attributed to "DER SPIEGEL."<br /><a href="http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-72183-2.html" rel="nofollow">Photo Gallery: Horrific Find in Libyan Warehouse</a><br /><br />There are three photos from thew shed in the set. Number two is of a body.Petri Krohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630751579069253718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-49299110934506400752012-02-24T15:05:41.073-08:002012-02-24T15:05:41.073-08:00I looked at that, and from his captive performing ...I looked at that, and from his captive performing monkey act and similar name, it could be this is the same guy they passed off as survivor Haleem. But until there's more, I'll consider it possible only and back-burner. Saving a copy just in case.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-80691813944850750662012-02-24T12:06:42.818-08:002012-02-24T12:06:42.818-08:00The Turkish page with description is here.. Trans...The Turkish page with description <a href="http://haksozhaber.net/libyadan-dehset-goruntuler-video-24056h.htm" rel="nofollow">is here.</a>. Translation (google) <i>Looking for his brother, Khalid Khalifa dağladı Kebir camp cries hearts. His car in front of the camp, which his brother Khalid Abdul Hekim Caliph Kebir, almost destroyed. Khalid, who entered the room where the corpses, tears shed and hugged relatives.</i> Why the interest in the blue KIA pickup truck??? (Khebir's?)felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-64625713134972805782012-02-24T06:12:55.195-08:002012-02-24T06:12:55.195-08:00@caustic , can you asap this one too ?
http://www....@caustic , can you asap this one too ?<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZU-XNB3kh8&feature=BFa&list=ULAnpnA37JKec&lf=mfu_in_order<br />hamzahurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-89445847460910726042012-02-24T05:51:16.591-08:002012-02-24T05:51:16.591-08:00Another detainee camp in south tripoli :
DETENTIO...Another detainee camp in south tripoli :<br /><br />DETENTION PLACE <br />http://media.knoxnews.com/media/img/photos/2011/08/28/media_22cc5e356087492486549e8f9a87960b_t607.jpg<br /><br />A rebel fighter watches over African migrant workers who are being evicted from the farm where they used to live and work in Tripoli, Libya, Sunday, Aug. 28, 2011. Hundreds of migrant workers remain stranded in Libya after six months of war, unable to flee the country. (AP Photo/Sergey Ponomarev<br /><br />http://www.knoxnews.com/photos/2011/aug/28/141500/hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-88599164269903338352012-02-24T05:12:01.807-08:002012-02-24T05:12:01.807-08:00thx Petri, but it was Felix who discovered the vid...thx Petri, but it was Felix who discovered the vid. Next day it was gone.<br />Same as the i-phone photo's of 1 of the photographers , the mnsbc photo's , was 89 photo's, stay now till 45 with a nasty photo of Zeef provided by the niz party, and the allvoices photo's are also gone. <br />There are may some powerful blogreaders?hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-47070553693177002152012-02-24T05:02:06.974-08:002012-02-24T05:02:06.974-08:00I've already mined this one. The witness is pr...I've already mined this one. The witness is presumably Mr. Senussi, who spoke to Berehulak. The dumped bodies clarifies I over-counted before, and the one with white Adidas (CBC got close enough to show the logo) is the light-skinned of these two victims with his face in the dirt. So apparently both of these were dumped from dozers which makes sense. <br /><br />I'll be the open-minded one again on Cobb, considering this <i>might</i> have been some kind of prison, and the location matched how he described it back in March. <br /><br />But that said, his background is suspicious, his story might have problems (not well read up), his companion Kilani (sp?) has a bit of propaganda in his accounts (Gaddafi didn't like the Palestinians, the corpse-sniffing dogs on his return, etc.), people screaming, etc.. ... Don't most people say this was only used as a prison (for uprising/suspect Libyan people) for three months? Who was that being tortured there 5-6 months before the end of that? <br /><br />You need to give him credit for lying about this well in advance, anyway, of the same site's main usage.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-19010177123510690202012-02-24T04:06:59.853-08:002012-02-24T04:06:59.853-08:00Don't know how this came to be the place, but ...Don't know how this came to be the place, but cool, a rare video we haven't seen yet. Not much new, but I saved it. Mr. Khebir again, a longer performance grinning in grief, and more from these two guys around him, one of whom mimics something he might claim to have seen. Not a familiar face that I noticed.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-24849814842162798082012-02-23T23:56:43.832-08:002012-02-23T23:56:43.832-08:00Yet another video! And what a performance! Also ...Yet another video! And what a performance! Also a few vehicle shots at the end, from Turkish station TRT Haber <b>Libya'dan Dehşet Görüntüler </b> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CTP6mgdGc4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CTP6mgdGc4</a>felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-56784810081563237152012-02-23T14:31:36.569-08:002012-02-23T14:31:36.569-08:00Petri - I think you missed it in the comments here...Petri - I think you missed it in <a href="http://libyancivilwar.blogspot.com/2012/01/khamis-brigade-shed-massacre-further.html" rel="nofollow">the comments here....Jan 27</a> That's what I thought about C-S. <a href="http://cpj.org/blog/2012/01/cant-an-aspiring-war-correspondent-get-some-fresh.php" rel="nofollow">a former British military officer and media adviser. </a>. Try finding some of his journalism. Alternatively, read <b>Scott Ritter's</b> book <b>Iraq Confidential: The Untold Story of the Intelligence Conspiracy to Undermine the UN and Overthrow Saddam Hussein </b> where he shows up in the index.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-76417419950469503992012-02-23T09:24:57.799-08:002012-02-23T09:24:57.799-08:00@hurriya – Thank for this this Canadian CTV video ...@hurriya – Thank for this this Canadian CTV video vith Janis Mackey Frayer and BBS's Cobb-Smith. I had not seen this before.<br /><a href="http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/MontrealHome/20110828/gadhafi-forces-detainee-statement-110828/" rel="nofollow">Survivor: Gadhafi forces massacred detainees</a><br /><br />The video is from the morning of August 28th. The front loader is seen bringing in the two bodies, seen in the opening scene. One of them – not the faceless one, but the other one – has white snickers, just like the body to the south on the other side of the perimeter wall behind the broken refrigerator. It is interesting that Cobb-Smith claims to recognize the place. He must be lying.Petri Krohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630751579069253718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-4596616401898768282012-02-22T21:50:03.325-08:002012-02-22T21:50:03.325-08:00"look at the colour of his eyes - they are ye...<i>"look at the colour of his eyes - they are yellow"</i> (might be figurative, yellow = cowardly) good find, Hurriya. Caustic has written elsewhere about the man in orange vest. (it's the second Janis Mackey Frayer video after the fascinating shed footage with Cobb-Smith, for the record)felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-31732221844051118562012-02-22T21:42:44.864-08:002012-02-22T21:42:44.864-08:00See also http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/world/...See also <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/world/africa/2011-sept-libya-slide-show.html#204" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/world/africa/2011-sept-libya-slide-show.html#204</a> - Walid Musbah (cf Abdulatti Musbah Haleem)felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-40785592728351840372012-02-22T18:37:26.486-08:002012-02-22T18:37:26.486-08:00@ felix :
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/worl...@ felix :<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/world/africa/2011-sept-libya-slide-show.html#179<br /><br />A man looked at a fire that destroyed a plastic factory in the Khatba district of Tripoli. <br /><br />Firefighters at the scene suspected of arson as the motive of the fire. Khatba was a stronghold of supporters of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi and the scene of heavy fighting between Colonel Qaddafi loyalists and rebels during the battle for Tripoli.hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-76343488733069186292012-02-22T18:35:47.650-08:002012-02-22T18:35:47.650-08:00apologies : can't find my comments back about...apologies : can't find my comments back about the everywhere around reporter, who claimed that 50 trucks were bombed on their way to Subha.<br /><br />I'm 99 % sure this is the same event , only difference is that the title describes it as happened in Tarhouna.and date ???<br />@ caustic, pls save vid.hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-60702867519496208672012-02-22T18:29:39.229-08:002012-02-22T18:29:39.229-08:00http://i40.tinypic.com/fco22t.jpg
http://i44.tinyp...http://i40.tinypic.com/fco22t.jpg<br />http://i44.tinypic.com/b50j90.jpg<br />http://i40.tinypic.com/2q1wdp5.jpg<br />http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/MontrealHome/20110828/gadhafi-forces-detainee-statement-110828/<br /><br />ctv vid is back<br />@felix : this school is possible in south<br />the boy with orange shirt is held there<br />the burial after is not them, c no plastic , but white burial windles<br />I hear they are captured c their eyes are yellow, but maybe this is my lack of englishhurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-45636187486553179522012-02-15T21:42:05.392-08:002012-02-15T21:42:05.392-08:00Quite the most uninteresting piece yet, but just f...Quite the most uninteresting piece yet, but just for the record, <b>Roel Geeraedts </b> along with cameraman <b>Tjeerd Kleijn</b> for RTL Nieuws (Netherlands) <a href="http://blogs.rtlnieuws.nl/roel-geeraedts/55-dode-blote-voeten-in-de-zon-.html" rel="nofollow">visited the shed on 28 August</a>. No named witnesses, no video, just the photo of Roel in the shed and anodyne description.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-89136545588845557272012-02-14T00:38:56.561-08:002012-02-14T00:38:56.561-08:00The guy with natty check drawstring pants crops up...The guy with natty check drawstring pants crops up on a similar EPA photo on <a href="http://www.metronieuws.nl/nieuws/libie-honderden-lijken-gevonden-in-tripoli/SrZkhB!RpKizzvCYrkU/" rel="nofollow">this Dutch page of Metronieuws</a>, 28 Aug 2011.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.com