tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post3511176819385626486..comments2024-03-18T22:03:28.458-07:00Comments on Monitor on Massacre Marketing: OPCW Douma Report S/1731, 2019Caustic Logichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-24182070013565901732019-12-09T09:22:56.589-08:002019-12-09T09:22:56.589-08:00https://undocs.org/en/S/2016/888
Related to Douma...https://undocs.org/en/S/2016/888<br /><br />Related to Douma - last page describes security for the JIM office (surely comparable for FFM or Novichok etc.?)<br /><br />Back in 2016, it was:<br /><br />An "air-gapped network"<br />"Dedicated server"<br />Terminals with "no Wi-Fi cards"Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-68594811284995318582019-12-02T15:00:16.486-08:002019-12-02T15:00:16.486-08:00Douma balcony shots 2019 showing damage
https://w...Douma balcony shots 2019 showing damage<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOUsl_MuccMAndrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-41604650920003450462019-12-02T00:26:03.349-08:002019-12-02T00:26:03.349-08:00As Hilsman above, Higgins thinks hospital scenes &...As Hilsman above, Higgins thinks hospital scenes <a href="https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1201261693164302336" rel="nofollow">"likely another conventional incident confused with the chlorine attack"</a>. Whether they realise that is impossible? Also (wilfully?) ignores all previous explanation of scratches etc. in the rest of that thread. <br /><br />Maybe unable to accept he got it wrong? Along with everyone repeating "their concerns were addressed in the final report" or "Riam Dalati says THE ATTACK DID HAPPEN".Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-38126923355293279842019-11-24T15:02:25.599-08:002019-11-24T15:02:25.599-08:00https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/119871596...https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1198715967859232773<br /><br />The OPCW inspectors are "pro-regime and conspiracy theorist".<br /><br />Well that would explain why Russia would also have to hack the OPCW wi-fi (where all sensitive things are kept obviously). Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-42430179182906986382019-11-24T03:09:58.795-08:002019-11-24T03:09:58.795-08:00More mad made up claims:
https://twitter.com/OzKa...More mad made up claims:<br /><br />https://twitter.com/OzKaterji/status/1198553246224277504<br />http://archive.is/JMrsa<br /><br /><br />"post mortems proved that they died of chlorine poisoning"<br /><br />Imaginary post mortems now and imaginary OPCW conclusions.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-51448543584145421032019-07-07T23:46:31.474-07:002019-07-07T23:46:31.474-07:00https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/989236633...https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/989236633554825217<br /><br />Maybe a video to save, JaI's Douma armour in 'farewell video' included anti-aircraft <br /><br />Out of interest, looking to see if anyone else questioned the lack of satellite photo verification (someone <a href="https://twitter.com/JennRollins1002/status/982684959151394816" rel="nofollow">must have drone footage too</a>, what happened to all the 'digital sherlocks'?). All I found so far was this:<br /><br />https://twitter.com/KreaseChan/status/1011234224517591041<br /><br />"there are also photos and videos and satellite data"<br /><br />Satellite data?<br /><br />..similarly ...<br /><br />https://twitter.com/deadlyvices/status/1138378224239566848<br /><br />"The OPCW meanwhile had reams of chemical, eyewitness and forensic evidence which indicated a chemical weapons attack"<br /><br />Reams?<br /><br />https://twitter.com/deadlyvices/status/1141621348088852480<br /><br />(+ on US evidence for Khan Sheikhoun) "eyewitness accounts clearly stated that an aircraft dropped a bomb where the crate containing traces of sarin were found" Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-24652747784531171422019-07-05T09:47:46.476-07:002019-07-05T09:47:46.476-07:00The above also shows that Patrick Hilsman has abso...The above also shows that Patrick Hilsman has absolutely no idea what he is saying<br /><br />https://twitter.com/PatrickHilsman/status/1147164693741654016<br />"The fact that footage from the Hospital showed shell-shocked civilians who <b>weren’t exposed to Chlorine</b>, was an accepted fact early on."<br /><br />I doubt he will realise that would involve the family lying to the <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-43776015/syria-chemical-attack-family-seen-in-hospital-video-speak" rel="nofollow">BBC</a>, <a href="https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-little-girl-whose-agony-set-the-west-on-path-to-war-gwv0d0rfl" rel="nofollow">The Sunday Times</a>, <a href="https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/15/middleeast/douma-chemical-attack-survivors-stories-arwa-damon-intl/index.html" rel="nofollow">CNN</a>, <a href="https://www.trtworld.com/mea/syria-s-displaced-recall-horrors-of-suspected-chemical-attack-17846" rel="nofollow">TRT</a> and <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/04/27/601319879/syrian-7-year-old-i-want-to-be-a-doctor-so-i-can-help-in-a-chemical-attack" rel="nofollow">NPR</a>. And why would the people next door to that apartment building be telling lies.. not to mention of the 500+ injured, all the journalists are directed to this single same family.<br /><br />^ if not already noted- "Malak" on the CNN story is a curious one on many levels, her "rebel" fighter husband Walid, 4 month old and 3 year old were somewhere else while she was "underground" being gassed.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-8030049583097451162019-06-19T05:57:25.493-07:002019-06-19T05:57:25.493-07:00Masa and Malaz story timing compared with FFM, int...Masa and Malaz story timing compared with FFM, interesting to note that in one version they are 'rescued' by the White Helmets<br /><br />https://imgur.com/xFkOsBj<br /><br />Just my opinion that the time in 8.56 could be wrong (for whatever reason and videos show a 'rescue' and 'panic' hours after the supposed event) Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-80269038789526177922019-04-30T12:50:32.317-07:002019-04-30T12:50:32.317-07:00Lucas claims someone involved is giving him inside...<a href="https://twitter.com/ScottLucas_EA/status/1123271351207378950" rel="nofollow">Lucas claims someone involved is giving him insider info</a>. So FFM now operates via "cryptic references" and leaking details to people like Scott Lucas. Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-65592222219996414112019-04-30T10:16:05.818-07:002019-04-30T10:16:05.818-07:00Scott Lucas now claims the Syrian gov. blocked exh...Scott Lucas now <a href="https://twitter.com/ScottLucas_EA/status/1123260639781302273" rel="nofollow">claims the Syrian gov. blocked exhumations</a>. His theory is that the FFM would explicitly state that the SAR denied access to apartments (8.22) but avoid stating they 'blocked exhumations' (writing 7.8 instead because... ?).<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/ScottLucas_EA/status/1123228002798665728" rel="nofollow">Lucas claims he knows how people died</a>... which is odd because he at some point apparently understood the argument for a "stronger agent" (assuming he ever had any opinion of his own on the details). Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-83843843968565824872019-04-27T08:13:10.199-07:002019-04-27T08:13:10.199-07:00Russia: Foundation for the Study of Democracy brie...Russia: Foundation for the Study of Democracy briefing (same points but with testimony about White Helmets)<br /><br />http://russiaun.ru/en/news/sideevent_syria<br /><br />Not sure why they don't include lack of verification for time of damage to the roof and balcony. Comparing satellite photos was done for other cases but not here. <br /><br />I think it could be proven roof above was already damaged and so, with nothing to slow the cylinder down to the 'consistent' 30m/s in A.6.7, 'air drop' is inconsistent (even from a very low height - a height already contradicted by public testimony and points made in this briefing) <br />Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-68544436512759437352019-04-12T10:58:37.024-07:002019-04-12T10:58:37.024-07:00Only here (messy - apologies)
Short:
No noise he...Only here (messy - apologies)<br /><br />Short:<br /><br />No noise heard to support low helicopter ("quiet"!)<br />FFM never went on roof to verify damage<br />No other rooms in building 'detoxified'<br />Victims had phones, now missing (could have ID'ed family etc.)<br />Possible attempt to stage a 'sarin mixture' attack? (like HdBG's mistake?)<br />Douma really did <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuaV6oiEDfw" rel="nofollow">have a large crane</a><br /><br />Devil's advocate: For helicopter drop, I'd point to the lack of FFM mention of cylinder frost so not used as evidence. The <a href="https://imgur.com/pcZO8aY" rel="nofollow">dirt in earliest photos</a> could possibly appear white the night before. 'Mesh' cylinder scratches do appear to be under the dirt. Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-78441332333053320422019-04-10T04:45:17.432-07:002019-04-10T04:45:17.432-07:00I'm behind enough on the multiple basements w/...I'm behind enough on the multiple basements w/deaths aspect that I should make a study and post on it. As you've noted, there's no explanation for that AT ALL. Chlorine would kill nowhere, let alone in whole other buildings … who claimed other sizeable batches of dead … why they dropped it is kind of obvious + whatever other reasons - I doubt the other basements were ever staffed with the bodies to go with that story, but they were killed, prob. in A basement, and a story went out, but lacked for evidence support and fizzled out. Seems worth reviving it, and then seeing about some follow-up.<br /><br />By chance did you assemble your points on the subject somewhere? I have a love-hate relationship with re-inventing the wheel, but I gotta note the hate ATM. I have too many wheels on the burner, back burners, wheels on fire, you know.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-71023162107020993042019-04-09T09:02:50.840-07:002019-04-09T09:02:50.840-07:00Possible total of people in the 3 basements in tha...Possible total of people in the 3 basements in that street? Supposedly ~75 in the next door basement and unknown number in the 3rd. <br /><br />But, had the activists another ~150 dead to film, more videos would surely have appeared. The same for the 'hundreds' injured, all from that same area but only a relatively small number are filmed at the nearby main hospital- the obvious place for casualties to go to. <br /><br />If the neighbouring basements were ~100 people, it would also mean quite a large number of potential rescuers/relatives?/people who would surely be concerned about their friends and neighbours next door. Yet at 10pm there doesn't seem to be anyone there but bodies left on the floor, activists and White Helmets. Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-16024293158496261662019-04-09T06:27:23.738-07:002019-04-09T06:27:23.738-07:00Sorry I don't reply more, but this one I will....Sorry I don't reply more, but this one I will. The specificity is spooky. 187 is a pretty good hard number to put on the final toll SEVERAL people hinted at in the first days before it settled at a lame-seeming 43 dead. For a final act, they should have aimed for solid triple-digits, well over a hundred, but not pushing too far, and nowhere near that stunt of claiming 1,000 dead all at once. I thought the reports up to app. 200 were going to settle there, and I still suspect they gassed that many and just never phoned it all in. https://libyancivilwar.blogspot.com/2018/04/douma-cw-massacre-see-sawing-death-toll.html<br />2:14 am: Zaher Sahloul, SAMS chief, already heard "Latest estimate of death ...is 180 mostly women and Children." No mention of an expected rise past that.<br />https://twitter.com/sahloul/status/982758520738205696<br />Was that really just some error? Was he just rounding down the original toll prior to the change? Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-80547427973635056562019-04-08T05:20:10.306-07:002019-04-08T05:20:10.306-07:00https://twitter.com/AsaadHannaa/status/11152097171...https://twitter.com/AsaadHannaa/status/1115209717180190721<br /><br />Different footage from the following morning? Undignified way to carry.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-53533828150639566952019-04-08T01:36:09.685-07:002019-04-08T01:36:09.685-07:00White Helmets 1 year on, still telling a bs story
...White Helmets 1 year on, still telling a bs story<br /><br />https://twitter.com/SyriaCivilDef/status/1115014492910432256<br /><br />"Honestly we did not realize that the attack was chemical"<br /><br />"almost an hour later when we learned that the attack was with toxic gases"<br /><br />"there were nearly 600 injured"<br /><br />(hundreds of people but they had no idea for an hour... who honestly believes that)<br /><br />"According to the survivors of the massacre they smelled the gas they went up in order to get rid of the smell" ... <br />(smell, see and feel it but 'escape' towards it. Still makes zero sense)<br /><br />"It poisoned them and they died immediately."<br /><br />(which isn't true... they would as a fact first have to spread out over different floors and rooms and then doing some washing. Apologies for sounding like a broken record) Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-53112670107979851652019-04-06T22:54:39.085-07:002019-04-06T22:54:39.085-07:00Douma death toll is now "187" according ...Douma death toll is now "187" according to this man<br /><br />https://youtu.be/TpEw2blwxuQ?t=93Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-61290415314237171532019-04-01T05:18:42.567-07:002019-04-01T05:18:42.567-07:00"...there was a hissing sound.”
Two of the y..."...there was a hissing sound.”<br /><br />Two of the young men in the basement volunteered to go and look to see what was happening. Seconds later, they came bolting back down. “Gas! Gas!” they screamed. “Everybody out!”"<br /><br />...<br /><br />"As Amani climbed up [the stairs], she saw white gas and dust pouring down past her"<br /><br />...<br /><br /><a href="https://world.wng.org/2018/04/itinerants_and_pawns" rel="nofollow">.."Around me, people were just falling to the ground.”" ... for a time Masa lay unconscious, foaming at the mouth ...</a><br /><br />Perhaps one of the many chemist/gas dispersion experts can work out how much chlorine could be pouring down the stairs seconds after hearing the cylinder 'land on the balcony next door and hiss'. And how much it would take to make everyone from the neighbouring basement 'fall to the ground' and 'foam at the mouth', Masa's purple top "smell like a swimming pool" and still "reek" one week later and then how she might be expected to look when arriving at the hospital immediately after that?<br /><br />Or maybe it is the kind of story they might come up with if, like Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, they didn't know you can't actually mix chlorine and sarin and so would try and fake a ‘chlorine and nerve agent mixture’ attack with the only thing they could get- a chlorine cylinder.<br />Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-76320501095452955052019-03-31T10:48:48.372-07:002019-03-31T10:48:48.372-07:00Scott Lucas explains the "severity of attack&...<a href="https://twitter.com/ScottLucas_EA/status/1107234958534500354" rel="nofollow">Scott Lucas explains the "severity of attack"</a> caused medics to accidentally report <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/13/read-white-house-assessment-of-suspected-chemical-attack-in-syria.html" rel="nofollow">symptoms of miosis, convulsions, disruption to central nervous systems</a> and <a href="https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-little-girl-whose-agony-set-the-west-on-path-to-war-gwv0d0rfl" rel="nofollow">rescuers becoming sick through simply touching the bodies</a> (despite the fact chlorine <a href="https://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/HRC/RegularSessions/Session38/Documents/A_HRC_38_CRP_3_EN.docx" rel="nofollow">"does not explain other reported symptoms"</a>). <br /><br />And the US to accidentally claim it had <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/mideast/u-s-has-blood-samples-show-nerve-agent-syria-gas-n865431" rel="nofollow">urine and blood samples positive for chlorine and a nerve agent</a> from the *zero* verified victims.<br /><br />All this then:<br />- White Helmets accidentally claiming they couldn't go into the building but in reality going in and setting it on fire <br />- A girl from the basement next door who has <a href="https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-little-girl-whose-agony-set-the-west-on-path-to-war-gwv0d0rfl" rel="nofollow">just been knocked unconscious by the same lethal chlorine</a> being at the hospital <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC6_Y1YXZn0" rel="nofollow">at the exact same time</a> as a boy who says it was staged with the FFM observing "none [of the children] appear to be ill"<br />- Riam Dalati claiming to have found proof of staging<br />- Activists arranging bodies as if hugging<br />- VDC claiming JaI <a href="https://vdc-sy.net/russian-military-police-inspects-chemical-attack-site/" rel="nofollow">tried to bar witnesses from documenting and photographing any evidence</a> on the 8th<br />- No exhumations<br />- Both cylinders that can only be explained by 'bouncing' into place and the 'stars aligning' for them to actually work at all<br />- Helicopters having to be so low they would be shot down (or at least appear on the live TV broadcast)<br /><br />All coincidence. All to use a 'terror weapon' to make people 'run away' by Postol's theory... but only after hours and hours of bombardment.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-2472893831357017482019-03-30T01:57:12.059-07:002019-03-30T01:57:12.059-07:00Nasr Hannan shows CBS his phone
"Amani phon...<a href="https://youtu.be/2m_gpBch0Fs?t=70" rel="nofollow">Nasr Hannan shows CBS his phone</a> <br /><br /><a href="https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-little-girl-whose-agony-set-the-west-on-path-to-war-gwv0d0rfl" rel="nofollow">"Amani <b>phoned</b> neighbours and friends to warn of the gas attack. But for many, it was too late."</a><br /><br />(my emphasis)<br /><br />There was "36 Telephone from the basement (level -1)" but that basement <a href="https://youtu.be/KDey9vvPmlM?t=108" rel="nofollow">had a land line</a>. So where are all the mobile phones and personal effects of the victims?Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-29798126147385705872019-03-27T05:42:05.087-07:002019-03-27T05:42:05.087-07:002.12: 1.4 x 0.4 meters
8.66: 1.5 by 0.4 meters
8.6...2.12: 1.4 x 0.4 meters<br />8.66: 1.5 by 0.4 meters<br />8.69: 1.5 by 0.5 meter<br />9.7: 1.4 x 0.4 meters<br />A.7.6: 140 x 35 cm (actual measurement?)Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-78539211036733934132019-03-26T06:36:49.820-07:002019-03-26T06:36:49.820-07:00Cylinder measurements:
FFM: Approx. 1.4 x 0.4m
Fo...Cylinder measurements:<br /><br />FFM: Approx. 1.4 x 0.4m<br />Forensic Architecture computer model: 1.54 x 0.358m (scaled down: 1.4 x ~0.32m) <br /><br />- not sure FA is wrong or FFM have rounded up, seems *very* roughAndrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-38189782895096007962019-03-26T03:31:51.277-07:002019-03-26T03:31:51.277-07:00Russian briefing transcript
http://www.mid.ru/ru/...Russian briefing transcript<br /><br /><a href="http://www.mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/3569448" rel="nofollow">http://www.mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/3569448</a>Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-7898520152455081022019-03-23T09:19:14.982-07:002019-03-23T09:19:14.982-07:00One last thought: 'Detoxify with a fire' -...One last thought: 'Detoxify with a fire' - but just the one room below the balcony. No detoxifying e.g. the basement or apartments downstairs where gas lethally built up? Someone could get up there and start a fire while activists/WHs couldn't retrieve bodies below <a href="https://syriacivildefense.org/press-release/statement-about-chemical-attack-eastern-ghouta" rel="nofollow">"due to the intensity of the odor and the lack of PPE"</a>...!Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.com