tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post161356225418476584..comments2024-03-18T22:03:28.458-07:00Comments on Monitor on Massacre Marketing: Douma Chemical Massacre: 187 Killed?Caustic Logichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-65795550330340341422019-05-14T04:54:42.777-07:002019-05-14T04:54:42.777-07:00Oh yeah that imposter Ian and his gang also mobbed...Oh yeah that imposter Ian and his gang also mobbed them into handing over exclusive photos, many with tape measures etc.... of course. <br /><br /><br />On your fire point, I get it now and maybe. But wait - a new post. ...Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-42730567170548122772019-05-14T03:41:35.176-07:002019-05-14T03:41:35.176-07:00FWIW Appendix 1 Figure 3: "observed cylinder ...FWIW Appendix 1 Figure 3: "observed cylinder at Location 2" appears to be a photo taken at the same time as, but not included with others in the FFM report A.6.5/A.6.8 (shadow on the top end). Not one I remember seeing anywhere else so for it to have been faked they would need the OPCW's photos.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-20786627589405744062019-05-14T02:55:24.266-07:002019-05-14T02:55:24.266-07:00likelihood of explosives was supported by, among o...likelihood of explosives was supported by, among other things, the scorching on the cieling, but then perhaps (yes) that was from the fire. No mention of the reason for the fire being set. (point 25.) Also a fragmentation pattern I should look into(not noticed before). Will see about responding to the twerps.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-70482145849712590292019-05-14T00:24:58.768-07:002019-05-14T00:24:58.768-07:00Lucas has updated his response but is still wrong
...Lucas has updated his response but is still wrong<br /><br />"Henderson argues against this conclusion, without referring to the roof damage observed by the experts."<br /><br />23 specifically refers to "the corner of the terrace wall" - the roof damage in question. Plus inspectors never went up onto the roof, only onto the balcony.Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-26076970612153244052019-05-13T22:30:38.475-07:002019-05-13T22:30:38.475-07:00https://twitter.com/iridium_tea/status/11280867061...https://twitter.com/iridium_tea/status/1128086706144591872<br />https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1101606181347487749<br /><br />Like credentials, it seems computer model importance varies wildly. Depending on the outcome of course.<br /><br />I assume the assessment is genuine? In any case it addresses key issues omitted from the FFM report such as valve and helicopter altitude. Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-12125752808422162592019-05-13T09:20:17.069-07:002019-05-13T09:20:17.069-07:00Scott Lucas responds
"Henderson's model ...<a href="https://www.facebook.com/EAWorldView/photos/a.1820058271609914/2305766406372429/?type=3&theater" rel="nofollow">Scott Lucas responds</a><br /><br />"Henderson's model appears to have only considered a cylinder dropped directly onto the building's roof balcony, without striking walls or another part of the roof in its descent." <br /><br />Apart from number 23?<br /><br />I read somewhere that EA Worldview was valued at $5m - surely that cannot be true. Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-89439180681482036902019-05-13T06:59:10.107-07:002019-05-13T06:59:10.107-07:00Good to see another expert opinion that seems to m...Good to see another expert opinion that seems to make sense ("Henderson is a misguided foreigner putinian troll who isn't Syrian or a chemist" etc.)<br /><br />The suggestion is that the fire was lit below to cover pre-existing scorching by explosion? Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-60457185442960562562019-05-13T04:06:07.419-07:002019-05-13T04:06:07.419-07:00Replies under Michael full, but this starts a new ...Replies under Michael full, but this starts a new (thread). My quibbles aside, OPCW's own engineering experts agreed totally on that point, way back when. Amazing development. <br />https://twitter.com/CL4Syr/status/1127879454053634049<br />http://syriapropagandamedia.org/working-papers/assessment-by-the-engineering-sub-team-of-the-opcw-fact-finding-mission-investigating-the-alleged-chemical-attack-in-douma-in-april-2018Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-26675881387283658002019-05-12T17:21:12.543-07:002019-05-12T17:21:12.543-07:00Cylinder doesn't fit; maybe, but seems to me i...Cylinder doesn't fit; maybe, but seems to me it could fit at another angle (not flat flat but a bit nose-down, it wouldn't take its full length). <br /><br />As for neighboring buildings - had to check it was so similar, but that's a different entrance. Is that supposed to be the third device there? I never noticed that.<br /><br />Trump deterrence: Shayrat airfiled was hit 7 April. By GPPI list, they had just done 2 attacks across the country that same day (both at verification level 3 of 3, so very clear and real), then stopped for a couple of weeks. Resumed long enough to be a nose-thumbing at us, then pauses 2 months for some other reason? Wow. <br />3 07/04/2017 Mashhad Aleppo Unknown Assad regime<br />3 07/04/2017 Qaboun Damascus Chlorine Assad regime<br />2 22/04/2017 Zamalka Reef Damascus Unknown Assad regime<br />1 25/04/2017 Al-Mayadeen Deir Ezzor Unknown Assad regime<br />1 29/04/2017 Al-Tamanah Idlib Chlorine Assad regime<br />1 30/04/2017 Massassina Hama Chlorine Assad regime<br />2 22/06/2017 Jobar Damascus Chlorine Assad regime<br />3 01/07/2017 Ein Tarma Reef Damascus Chlorine Assad regime<br />3 02/07/2017 Zamalka Reef Damascus Chlorine Assad regime<br />...Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-41318257359419170302019-05-09T09:19:12.160-07:002019-05-09T09:19:12.160-07:00Possible explanation for a lack of yellow cylinder...Possible explanation for a lack of yellow cylinders (Russian air strikes have blown up storage?)<br />https://youtu.be/CAACCCRiCL0?t=443<br /><br />+ SyAAF helicopters reportedly haven't started flying around at low altitude in dangerous places (such as over Douma)<br />https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/1123570757102133250Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-87644454283574161362019-05-09T05:59:03.071-07:002019-05-09T05:59:03.071-07:00After being told Assad "signed off" the ...After being told <a href="https://thehill.com/policy/defense/405856-syrias-assad-has-approved-use-of-chlorine-gas-in-idlib-report" rel="nofollow">Assad "signed off" the use of chlorine</a>, the yellow cylinders supposedly <a href="https://www.gppi.net/media/GPPi_Schneider_Luetkefend_2019_Nowhere_to_Hide_Web.pdf" rel="nofollow">following Tiger Forces around</a> and it being used as a 'terror weapon' to scare people out of the area (as per theory of Postol and others)... if chlorine use was a genuine strategy, with widespread bombing of Idlib in preparation for the latest offensive shouldn't there have been yellow cylinders everywhere? <br /><br />Why the change of heart - did Trump <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/syria-threat-trump-chemical-attacks-629786" rel="nofollow">stop them with another threat</a> (like 2017 when he stopped them for an incredible 5 whole days according to the GPPi list).Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-34053680740353384982019-05-08T05:42:55.220-07:002019-05-08T05:42:55.220-07:00https://twitter.com/syrianviews/status/11258917967...https://twitter.com/syrianviews/status/1125891796788080640<br /><br />The basement entrance was in nearly every video including NYT and the FFM even describes the basement access in 8.25 + Figure 6. Why would whoever it is spend all their time arguing something they don't know anything about? It is bizarre. <br /><br />But.. to try and get something more interesting from that, the FFM has marked 3 buildings that are presumably the 3 basements in the street. If it is unusual to have just one entrance onto the street, the basement to the left also looks like the same layout <br />https://imgur.com/NJIR46o<br />Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-11617498256765372452019-05-03T04:38:21.335-07:002019-05-03T04:38:21.335-07:00The third described as "device" not &quo...The third described as "device" not "cylinder" too.<br /><br />A good spot by Micha, I guess the FA model was made using limited views? <br />https://twitter.com/MichaKobs/status/1117734605476462592<br />https://imgur.com/qIQNgNP<br /><br />A bit more footage than in the other Russian news video here <br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1T8HZYv_ZE <br /><br />(probably seen already but not many video views- so just in case)<br />Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-37087806938451511052019-04-27T19:56:44.102-07:002019-04-27T19:56:44.102-07:00forgot about the date issue … ironically the grann...forgot about the date issue … ironically the grannies have hidden their tweets from me. And it would've been a good idea to check the FFM's map for hints like that to place the other site. Should be the south one, but maybe the north one is taken as ~50-60 from the front door of L2. But it's narrowed down, FWIW. Supposed CW bomb #3 landed out in the street there, but no one bothered to take a picture.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-66458127942070584582019-04-27T19:35:42.299-07:002019-04-27T19:35:42.299-07:00I meant two roofs were allegedly hit, so this does...I meant two roofs were <i>allegedly</i> hit, so this doesn't even fit the allegations well. Agreed on principle it was staged, probably would agree on that point...<br /><br />Interesting points on rising vapor, and smell. I doubt any wind could make it smelled everywhere, but point made it should be detectable some ways out, upwind especially. Here that should be N-NW, and allegedly smelled a little ways in a cross-direction anyway. Not so implausible.<br /><br />Still, there was a whole third bomb alleged, right in the street, yet no one ever mentioned it before or took any videos, despite it being just meters up the street from Location 2, allegedly. In fact, it might be possible to see the street far enough to rule it out … if there weren't so much junk everywhere.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-17834493270323748032019-04-27T02:45:45.612-07:002019-04-27T02:45:45.612-07:00"Only two rooftops were hit and had chlorine ..."Only two rooftops were hit and had chlorine released..."<br />I don't think these roofs were hit that day. The hole at location 4 is too small for a horizontal impact, especially an impact that left front-ring of the harness and valve completely undamaged. At location 2 the OPCW/FFM report shows the crater in the adjacent roof without any conclusion. The lateral deformed front ring of the harness found at the balcony doesn't fit the deformation of the cylinder dome but there is no plausible way to deform that ring after the cylinder fell out of that ring. In other words, both location show clear signs of tampering not addressed in the report.<br /><br />Witness report: "yellow or green cloud or smoke"<br />It is worth to mention that chlorine vapor appears like a "cloud or smoke" due to the fluid droplets. Such vapor quickly transforms into gas by consuming heat from the atmosphere. Once the vapor is transformed into gas (within seconds) the appearance dramatically changes. The gas will look like watching the scene through a yellow glas with fading edges to normal. A witness describing a "cloud or smoke" 50-100m away from the alleged release point isn't trustworthy.<br />Here is an image the demonstrates how fast the liquid becomes a gas and changes the appearance from "steam" (smoke) into gas:<br />https://twitter.com/MichaKobs/status/1111050563007991808<br />All green or orange "clouds" that were shown during the last years were anything but chlorine.<br /><br />"...a whole other chemical bomb no one else reported..."<br />The odor threshold for chlorine is 0.002 ppm in air. According to official MRLs (Minimal Risk Levels) you can survive such concentration for 364 days without health effect. <br />150kg chlorine (a full cylinder) expand to 50m³ gas at 1000000ppm or 100% concentration that dilutes to 25,000,000,000 m³ of chlorine smell at 0.002ppm. Depending on the wind direction everyone in Douma could have smelled the chlorine from a single cylinder and the smell doesn't indicate a danger or a 2nd or even multiple cylinders.M Kobshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06513182426140484821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-49851091623700927452019-04-20T05:03:39.522-07:002019-04-20T05:03:39.522-07:00That date discrepancy you found for the UNDSS reco...That date discrepancy you found for the UNDSS reconnaissance mission "security incident" also made it into the final report (2.2 April 18 but 17 in Annex 3). (People are still <a href="https://twitter.com/grannies4equal/status/1119248655096135683" rel="nofollow">bizarrely claiming evidence was somehow hidden</a>)<br /><br />As the only house 50-60m away marked as a place people were affected by a chemical in figure 4, 8.68 refers to here imo<br />https://imgur.com/mps6pAEAndrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-62489732465275374742019-04-14T12:27:56.531-07:002019-04-14T12:27:56.531-07:00Source for 75 in basement:
https://www.thetimes.c...Source for 75 in basement:<br /><br />https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-little-girl-whose-agony-set-the-west-on-path-to-war-gwv0d0rfl<br /><br />"Masa was wearing her purple T-shirt at around 6pm last Saturday. Her family were hiding in a basement in Douma with 75 of their neighbours, as they waited out another night of barrel bombs launched by the Assad regime."<br /><br /><br />I don't think you have a page for March 24 2017, just fyi:<br />http://sn4hr.org/wp-content/pdf/english/The_First_Anniversary_of_Khan_Sheikhoun_Chemical_Attack_en.pdf<br /><br />"Mohammad Kayyal, head of the Chemical Strike Respond Center at the civil defense ... - "We've collected samples from two sites. One ... at least was contaminated" <br /><br />Contacted via WhatsApp on August 3, 2017. Latamneh March 24 does not appear in SNHR's list.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12749505072348356868noreply@blogger.com