tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post1057196822490147154..comments2024-03-18T22:03:28.458-07:00Comments on Monitor on Massacre Marketing: Shed Massacre Info Offensive / Kilani Figures it OutCaustic Logichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-75401684697657077752013-05-07T16:40:45.524-07:002013-05-07T16:40:45.524-07:009 March 2011 More than 10 percent of Libya's i...9 March 2011 More than 10 percent of Libya's inhabitants are immigrants.<br /> Among them, there are reportedly up to 70,000 Palestinian refugee settlers. <br />http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/03/09/the-forgotten-palestinian-refugees-of-libya/<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JnpRyE69kzQ<br /><br />*<br /><br />27 Feb 2011 BBC Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen, who was on the government-organised trip to Zawiya, says the centre of the city and its immediate outskirts appear to be wholly in the control of anti-Gaddafi forces. <br /><br />The BBC's Firas Kilani in Tripoli says the situation in the capital is calm <br /><br />http://www.sott.net/article/225181-Libya-Uprising-Anti-Gaddafi-Forces-Control-Zawiya<br />*<br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12695138<br />Feras Killani, a Palestinian refugee with a Syrian passport; Goktay Koraltan, who is Turkish; and Chris Cobb-Smith, British, were stopped at a checkpoint at Al-Zahra south of Zawiya on Monday 7 March. <br />*<br />“On March 8, 2011 I was picked up at an army roadblock near Tripoli “<br /><br />acc to the link the Beaumont/kilani story was originally written 8march : http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/08/libya-regime-ill-treats-<br />foreign-journalists/print).<br /><br />*<br /><br />http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/10/us-libya-zawiyah-city-idUSTRE7296P420110310<br /><br />10 march 2011 Libyan authorities have barred foreign journalists from the city without special permission, which rarely comes. The BBC said three staffers were detained this week trying to reach Zawiyah and some were beaten and subjected to mock execution.<br />*<br /><br /> Mohamed al-Kilani from Zawiya <br /> <br /><br />Bani Walid october 2012 : Despite this relatively weak support within the GNC, the military power of the revolutionary camp and the close connections between certain deputies and the evolutionary brigades involved made the operation possible.<br /><br />Salah Badi from Misrata and Mohamed al-Kilani from Zawiya,<br /><br />both leaders of revolutionary brigades as well as GNC members, participated actively in the military offensive.<br /><br /> The GNC spokes-man, Omar Ahmidan from Zliten, helped disseminate false reports <br /><br />about the supposed detention of one of Gaddafi’s sons in Bani Walid <br />that were intended to lend legitimacy to the military operation. <br /><br />http://www.swp-berlin.org/fileadmin/contents/products/research_papers/2013_RP04_lac.pdfhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-75949413538152704752012-12-21T17:14:44.699-08:002012-12-21T17:14:44.699-08:00The BBC journalists--Feras Killani, who is Palesti...The BBC journalists--Feras Killani, who is Palestinian, Goktay Koraltan, who is Turkish, and Chris Cobb-Smith, who's British--were eventually released, the BBC then posting a lengthy interview with them in which they described their ordeal.<br /><br />Why do their story looks so much alike this 1 :<br /><br />http://www.salon.com/2011/08/08/libyan_prison/<br /><br />The words sent chills through Dr. Ahmed’s already badly beaten body.<br /> He had been helping an Al Jazeera reporting team in March, during the early days of the Libya uprising,<br />when forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi surrounded the western city of Zawiya, capturing him and his colleagues. <br /><br />When Dr. Ahmed arrived in March, he was placed in a solitary cell with no windows and given just enough bread and water to stay alive.<br /> <br />Guards would summon him at all hours for interrogations, during which he was tortured — electrical shocks from a charged cattle prod applied to his head and groin, repeated blows to the head and whippings across his back with rubber hoses.<br /><br />The mock execution was his send off to another prison — Al Jadida, where treatment in communal cells much improved and he told GlobalPost this account.<br /><br />In Al Jadida he reunited with other Abu Salim veterans, who cried for joy thinking he had been executed that night.<br /><br />Dr. Ahmed was eventually freed and has left Libya for his own safety.<br />Monday, Aug 8, 2011 <br /><br />hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-42452915106882524562012-12-21T17:10:34.619-08:002012-12-21T17:10:34.619-08:00The Guardian, Ghaith Abdul-Ahad, has been missing ...The Guardian, Ghaith Abdul-Ahad, has been missing for three days, along with Brazillian reporter Andrei Netto.hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-40905496618726622952012-12-21T17:08:15.926-08:002012-12-21T17:08:15.926-08:00zawya early march 2011 :
7 march
1454Mr Zawi tel...zawya early march 2011 :<br /><br /><br />7 march<br />1454Mr Zawi tells al-Jazeera that three rebels and 26 pro-Gaddafi troops were killed in fighting in and around Zawiya on Sunday.<br /><br />Eleven soldiers were also captured, three of them mercenaries from West Africa, he adds.<br /><br />1452He adds: "The bombardment is still ongoing, yet the youths have returned to the square and regained control of it. The youths are still in control of the city of Zawiya."<br /><br />1425Pro-Gaddafi forces have resumed their attacks on the key western city of Zawiya with tanks and artillery, an exiled Libyan opposition group has told the Reuters news agency. <br /><br />The Libyan Human Rights Solidarity said in a statement that there had been heavy fighting on Monday morning<br /><br />9 march<br />Like many other details, the extent of the killing in almost a week of heavy fighting there is unclear. Ibrahim said the rebels lost nine fighters on Wednesday as Gaddafi forces took over the main square but were later pushed out again.<br /><br />10 march<br />Mohamed, a Libyan exile who got through to a relative on the outskirts of Zawiyah on Thursday morning, said a ring of loyalist forces had cut off the center of the city.<br /><br />http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/10/us-libya-zawiyah-city-idUSTRE7296P420110310<br /><br />Britain's Guardian newspaper said one of its correspondents, and a colleague from a Brazilian newspaper, had disappeared near Zawiyah. The press freedom group Reporters Without Borders said on Thursday the two had been arrested.<br />*<br />Brazilian reporter Andrei Netto was held eight days by the Libyan government. <br /><br />He says he was not physically abused, "but I could describe many psychological abuses, in special the fact that there were no charges against us, neither did we have any idea when we would be freed. <br /><br />http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/03/four-new-york-times-reporters-missing-libya/35874/<br />-<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-2839063950101410032012-12-21T17:04:39.460-08:002012-12-21T17:04:39.460-08:00acc to the link the Beaumont/kilani story was or...acc to the link the Beaumont/kilani story was originally written @ 8march :<br /><br />Many journalists are now beginning to ask what their role is in this media masquerade (see article<br />by Peter Beaumont:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/08/libya-regime-ill-treats-<br />foreign-journalists/print).<br />hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-25872880691179746512012-12-21T16:14:41.169-08:002012-12-21T16:14:41.169-08:00#Libya: Emerging reports that an unidentified grou...#Libya: Emerging reports that an unidentified group of armed men kidnapped Col Salim Lafi in front of Corinthia Hotel in #Tripoli on 20 Dec 2012<br /><br />Hussain Al Lafi and his three brothers were held at the same compound, as I was, for eight weeks accused of supporting the rebels.hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-30075733142091817312012-05-30T16:01:08.820-07:002012-05-30T16:01:08.820-07:00The share of Zjia journalist Firas Al Kilani of il...The share of Zjia journalist Firas Al Kilani of ill-treatment and torture <br />of the largest among the members of the team.<br /><br />And lived through the team during the detention conditions of prisoners who were in prison, mostly from the city of the corner as they were bound in jail and their hands are swollen because of the limitations and suffering from broken ribs and screaming in pain.<br /><br />Kilani says that the conditions of four of the detainees were very poor and showed signs of torture and provided assistance to discouraging for a period of six hours to drink water, sleep and eliminate the need.: <br /><br />http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/8433722-team-bbc-arabic-in-libya-of-being-arrested-and-beaten<br />Tripoli : Libya | Mar 10, 2011 at 9:24 AM PST/By Abdel Fattah Hussein <br /><br />A crew from the BBC Arab arrest, beatings and torture on Monday by security forces while trying to Allbiep team access to the city corner where battles between the opposition and forces loyal to the Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.<br />Has been the team that was comprised of three members kicked, punched and beaten with rifle butts by soldiers and security agents before being placed bags over their heads and are led to the detention camp.<br />The team remained in detention for 21 hours before being released.<br /><br />The highest responsible for human rights at the United Nations, Navi Pillay said what he experienced BBC team in Libya would amount to torture. <br />http://img3.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/480/73879066-united-nations.jpg<br /><br />http://www.facebook.com/SPG/posts/10150523736862632hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-62316224463051883652012-05-25T18:25:41.031-07:002012-05-25T18:25:41.031-07:00Islam Times: The BBC correspondent, Firas Kilani, ...Islam Times: The BBC correspondent, Firas Kilani, had been preparing a report on a farm in which he had been held and tortured by the Colonel Muammar Gaddafi’s forces last March while he was covering the events in Libya. During the shooting the BBC team was surprised to see a special security unit entering the area with dogs and special equipment to detect graves.<br /><br />The BBC correspondent became aware that the farm being searched contained corpses which are believed to belong to Libyan opposition and African figures<br /><br />http://www.islamtimes.org/vdcjioevhuqeyaz.92fu.htmlhurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-81842547738513399992012-05-23T17:26:11.630-07:002012-05-23T17:26:11.630-07:002:50pm: In paying tribute to the BBC journalists w...2:50pm: In paying tribute to the BBC journalists who were detained in Libya, Sir George Young, leader of the House of Commons, said they had gone through a “horrendous” ordeal. “We should never underestimate the risks that many people take in order to bring this country and the rest of the world the truth about countries like Libya.”hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-8754727060089669282012-05-23T17:14:16.546-07:002012-05-23T17:14:16.546-07:00Three BBC journalists--reporter Feras Killani, cam...Three BBC journalists--reporter Feras Killani, cameraman Goktay Koraltan, and producer Chris Cobb-Smith--were released on Tuesday after 21 hours of abuse that included beatings and mock executions, according to news reports.<br /><br />Killani told the BBC: "They were kicking and punching me, four or five men. I went down on to my knees. They attacked me as soon as I got out of the car. They knocked me down to the ground with their guns, AK47s. I was down on my knees and I heard them cocking their guns<br /><br /><br />The whereabouts of at least six local journalists remained unclear today, Mohamed al-Amin....<br /><br /><br />https://cpj.org/2011/03/in-libya-7-journalists-unaccounted-for-3-others-ab.phphurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-61809904258181513012012-05-23T10:58:48.862-07:002012-05-23T10:58:48.862-07:00: #Gaddafi regime disappears student Ounis Mohamm...: #Gaddafi regime disappears student Ounis Mohammad al-Tajouri, 26, from #sLanuf. #Libya #Gaddaficrimes<br /><br />#Gaddafi regime abducts and tortures BBC journalists. #Libya #Gaddaficrimes2011<br /><br /> In February alone, #Gaddafi regime disappears 370 from #Benghazi and #Al-Baida. Estimate is conservative. #Libya #Gaddaficrimes2011<br /><br /> For every name we know taken by #Gaddafi regime, there are hundreds we do not<br />http://www.scribd.com/doc/52232393/Untitledhurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-27205342407882136302012-05-17T15:41:18.888-07:002012-05-17T15:41:18.888-07:00Kilani gives an interview in arabic to Akhbar Alaa...Kilani gives an interview in arabic to Akhbar Alaan TV on 23 March here: <a href="http://akhbar.alaan.tv/video/world-news/Firas-Al-Kilani-London-BBC-news/" rel="nofollow">http://akhbar.alaan.tv/video/world-news/Firas-Al-Kilani-London-BBC-news/</a> from London about Libya.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-27238597485826187362012-05-16T14:23:30.635-07:002012-05-16T14:23:30.635-07:00The Gulf News story by Kilani is here: http://gulf...The Gulf News story by Kilani is here: <a href="http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists/libya-s-future-remains-uncertain-1.1015448" rel="nofollow">http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists/libya-s-future-remains-uncertain-1.1015448</a> <i> "The compound was the scene of one of the worst single atrocities of the conflict and I have returned to meet the perpetrator and two of his victims..... "<br /><br /></i>felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-85755205214566614732012-05-11T19:05:01.801-07:002012-05-11T19:05:01.801-07:00This is the disappeared site:
http://www.mapmonde...This is the disappeared site:<br /><br />http://www.mapmonde.org/africa/libya/baladiyat-tarabulus/buslim-444153/twitts/buslim-history-2hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-88345770045637246832012-05-11T18:59:52.072-07:002012-05-11T18:59:52.072-07:00O.k : also disappeared : buslim tweets , informati...O.k : also disappeared : buslim tweets , information about what happened in Libiya. <br />What do some groups have to hide ?<br /><br />A group who had many tweets on this site :<br /><br /> Libya Outreach Group <br />http://www.berthoudrecorder.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Libya_10_4_SR.1.pdf<br />http://gallery.mailchimp.com/5f65a9cec4e6a406f5ece6d57/files/Financial_Report_June_10.2011.pdfhurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-36629467727074663062012-05-08T23:33:24.568-07:002012-05-08T23:33:24.568-07:00There is a better wide angle picture of Kilani'...There is a better wide angle picture of Kilani's "torture room" <a href="http://akhbarelyom.org.eg/news28891.aspx" rel="nofollow">here at Akhbarelyom</a>. The shed photo with Kilani is similar to that at UJC but better quality.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-7074066429478304622012-05-07T23:47:34.526-07:002012-05-07T23:47:34.526-07:00the always biased&sneaky reporting with a hid...the always biased&sneaky reporting with a hidden,obsessive,evil goal :<br /><br />He faces charges over the massacre, but he waived his right to anonymity to tell his story. He alleges he was following orders from his superior.<br /><br />"When the rebels entered Tripoli, -Mohammad Mansour - the prison commander - gave orders to kill the prisoners.<br /><br /><br />Perhaps what they did not appreciate was the -“Saadi effect”.-<br />http://www.libyaherald.com/are-they-looking-at-the-same-libya/hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-32200435602134465212012-05-07T23:40:23.191-07:002012-05-07T23:40:23.191-07:00He names a man who he says took a leading role in ...He names a man who he says took a leading role in the attack.<br /><br />"Between the second and third grenade, Ibrahim Tajouri came in and started shooting," he said.<br /><br />Hussein told me how he called out to his three brothers in the warehouse, but none of them survived the attack.<br /><br />"After the shooting stopped, I pushed the dead bodies off me."<br /><br />Hussein's first brother Jamal was lying on top of a pile of bodies. "His eyes were open, I called him, 'Jamal, Jamal' and he didn't answer."<br /><br />His second brother Usama had been hit in the heart and in the shoulder and the bottom of his leg was missing.<br /><br />His older brother Mohammad was next to the wall. "I touched him and I could feel that his leg was missing. He said to me: 'Run away, save yourself, and go tell the world that we've been slaughtered'."<br /><br />In the confusion of the explosions and the shooting Hussein was one of the few prisoners who managed to escape.<br /><br />Those left behind did not stand a chance. The soldiers finished off any wounded survivors one by one and set the place on fire.<br /><br />A few days after the massacre, Ibrahim Tajouri gave himself up to the rebel authorities who had now taken over the city. He has been in custody ever since.<br /><br />He faces charges over the massacre, but he waived his right to anonymity to tell his story. He alleges he was following orders from his superior.<br /><br />"When the rebels entered Tripoli, Mohammad Mansour - the prison commander - gave orders to kill the prisoners.<br /><br />"He came to the detention centre where the prisoners were being held, he threatened us with his gun and said that we must kill them now, so we got some hand grenades and threw them at the prisoners."<br /><br />I asked Tajouri how he feels about what he did now.<br /><br />"I took drugs, I wasn't in control of my actions. My conscience is full of guilt because of what I have done. I ask them for forgiveness."<br /><br />Another prisoner, Bashir al-Sadeq, was also held in the warehouse and witnessed Tajouri's role in the attack.<br /><br />"Yes, he came inside and emptied more than three magazines," he said.<br /><br />Hussein and Bashir agreed to come with me to face Ibrahim Tajouri for the first time since the massacre.<br /><br />http://www.campusdaily.com.au/read_university_news.php?title=eyewitness_to_a_libyan_massacre_66932hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-37575887514969706622012-05-07T16:21:30.405-07:002012-05-07T16:21:30.405-07:00Ooh, new video runs longer. Close-up of some of th...Ooh, new video runs longer. Close-up of some of the martyrs' hand and finger bones and femurs remaining. Several. Took out skulls and spines anyway for proper burial. <br /><br />See 2:50 for a new thing: a smoke-stained peg in the wall, with smoke-stained <b>keys</b> hanging on it, inside the shed. Added later, or there for the prisoners to ... ??<br />2:56, shell casings finally. Cannot place them, but they look ancient -WWII vintage, perhaps? <br />These things might all be in the side-chamber, actually. This dishes are.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-46561467090150326842012-05-07T16:15:05.684-07:002012-05-07T16:15:05.684-07:00I was hoping someone would notice and have a thoug...I was hoping someone would notice and have a thought on my new slow discovery that Allafi = Al-Lafi and Bashir allegedly named this man, Hussein's brother, as his own. <br /><br />I think I have the spot, 0:27 in that new shorter video, near the start of his monologue, 0:27. He does also point to Hussein, who nods. (the Facebook screen flashed here for a few frames). Hussein nods and says something. Maybe this was all a mix-up. <br /><br />Wish I had learned Arabic by now...Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-68463356132601129472012-05-07T16:05:19.687-07:002012-05-07T16:05:19.687-07:00Better quality video (by a touch) and no stamp. Th...Better quality video (by a touch) and no stamp. Thanks. I already started my video re-mix with the other, will suffice.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-68189415430747090602012-05-07T16:01:53.988-07:002012-05-07T16:01:53.988-07:00"His name is Craig Williamson. And he is the ..."His name is Craig Williamson. And he is the ‘real’ Lockerbie bomber"<br />Without even looking, doesn't sound right. If his connection to Abu Elias, the Heathrow airport break-in, the Bedford suitcase(s) or something else I'm fairly sure is linked, probably another bogus distraction. <br /><br />The only existing name I can connect as a likely bomber is Basel Bushnaq, Reston or Herndon, Virginia.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-9363010957706902722012-05-07T15:57:28.477-07:002012-05-07T15:57:28.477-07:00Looks like I missed something disgusting. Did this...Looks like I missed something disgusting. Did this filter just get turned off back when the world "needed" to be shocked by "Gaddafi crimes?" Switched back on as soon as he's dead? <br /><br />What kind of thing did it show?Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-77859579988535581322012-05-07T13:39:31.590-07:002012-05-07T13:39:31.590-07:00There is another version of the video here:
2012-...There is another version of the video here:<br /><br />2012-04-30_20-53-50.mp4<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYuYuySIGgc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYuYuySIGgc</a><br />Published on Apr 30, 2012 by drrazadPetri Krohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630751579069253718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-63086263644838332602012-05-07T10:47:12.509-07:002012-05-07T10:47:12.509-07:00@petri :
This video has been removed as a violatio...@petri :<br />This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy on shocking and disgusting content.<br />Sorry about that.<br /><br />@ caustic :His name is Craig Williamson. And he is the ‘real’ Lockerbie bomber.<br />http://libyasos.blogspot.com/p/news.htmlhurriyanoreply@blogger.com