tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post4786830565419051128..comments2024-03-18T22:03:28.458-07:00Comments on Monitor on Massacre Marketing: The Tripoli Massacres: A Rebel Terrorist Maestro?Caustic Logichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-88478434361691799222011-11-07T04:17:39.869-08:002011-11-07T04:17:39.869-08:00More about the LIFG here in this 2009 blogpost ......More about the LIFG <a href="http://kufrakbar.blogspot.com/2009/09/libyan-islamic-fighting-group-and-uk.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> in this 2009 blogpost ...which lists at least 9 prominent LIFG members in the UK. The writer is mistaken in his speculations about <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8240997.stm" rel="nofollow">member AF</a>, subject to a control order (where evidence is too sensitive to come to court) although they are the same age (AF and Faraj Faraj Hassan Al-Saadi (identified as <a href="http://www.socialcohesion.co.uk/files/1301651552_1.pdf" rel="nofollow">AS subsequently)</a><br />The control order was subsequently <a href="http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/pdfid/4b3c82fb2.pdf" rel="nofollow">lifted on AS</a> at the end of 2009.<br />Subsequently, the plot thickens, because after a protest outside the US embassy, AS mysteriously died 12 hours later on 16 August 2010 in a motorcycle (a black Kawasaki ZX6R Ninja as <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kfactor200/5370813402/" rel="nofollow">here</a>!) crash near his home. Faraj also had a VW Golf at some stage, as documented <a href="http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2010/01/24/control-orders-take-another-blow-libyan-cartoonist-freed-detainee-dd/" rel="nofollow">here</a> when another Libyan Ziyad Ali Hashem had his control order revoked in January 2010, The circumstances to my eye were odd to say the least...within seconds two doctors, one with a stethoscope (!) were on the scene. The press photo shows no damage to the car. A man with a rare muslim sounding name Mohamed or Mohammad Fumoule, was due to come to trial in June 2011 at Barnet, but hasn't and I don't see any report of the inquest being reopened. <a href="http://www.harrowobserver.co.uk/west-london-news/local-harrow-news/2010/08/18/doctor-s-desperate-bid-to-revive-tragic-biker-116451-27089365/" rel="nofollow">a local press report is here</a> , the body was apparently returned to Libya and there is YouTube coverage of the victim (!) See <a href="http://moneyjihad.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/addendum-faraj%c2%a0hassan%c2%a0dead/" rel="nofollow">this blogpost from Money Jihad, 18 November 2010</a> where the blogger writes <i>"I always take a digital camera to funerals so I can document just how dead my friends and relatives are. Then I like to publish the video online so that everybody, including sanctioning authorities, also know about the death. It’s all perfectly normal and raises no eyebrows. <br /><br />It’s remarkable how quickly Treasury verified the death–presumably obtaining a copy of the the police report and death certificate from British authorities first–and delisted Hassan in only one month. That’s quicker than an average American can obtain a passport!</i><br /><br />it is all very strange. See also <a href="http://crescent-online.net/component/content/article/3067-british-hypocrisy-over-libyan-refugees.html" rel="nofollow">this article</a>,in Crescent Magazine by Fahad Ansari, <i>British hyprocisy over Libyan refugees</i>. I don't see any online judgement on DD. DD was namechecked in this <a href="http://z13.invisionfree.com/julyseventh/index.php?showtopic=1810&st=14" rel="nofollow">September 4 2011 article,captured in a thread, on Belhadj and the Madrid bombings.</a> (translation from <a href="http://www.elconfidencialdigital.com/Articulo.aspx?IdObjeto=29893" rel="nofollow">original Spanish article</a>)<br />Certainly, from his biography in the <a href="http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/pdfid/4b3c82fb2.pdf" rel="nofollow">judgment of the control order lifting </a> of AS had made some interesting contacts in some interesting countries.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-72415220548330403582011-09-06T05:07:01.734-07:002011-09-06T05:07:01.734-07:00I might well be under-estimating the danger of an ...I might well be under-estimating the danger of an extremist takeover. In pert, it's to be different, to snub the "standard concerns." If I'm proven wrong, well, that's just another problem this goddamn war has created. <br /><br />France is lovely in spots. You should go and enjoy. But before you do, if you haven't already, you should look at the new photo (the lower one of the hospital floor) I added to the trauma hospital post. What do you make of that? Comment there, not here, if you have any immediate thoughts. <br /><br />Cheers!Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-27702764353520204272011-09-05T08:17:05.291-07:002011-09-05T08:17:05.291-07:00Thanks again for the great job you're doing he...Thanks again for the great job you're doing here once again. Im going to France for two weeks holiday now, so I probably will not have much opportunity to follow or give any assistance.<br />If I'm not brainwashed by the mass media in the meantime, I will be glad to read your further postings then;)Peet73https://www.blogger.com/profile/18380551847626151514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-17278952951652480282011-09-05T08:04:57.216-07:002011-09-05T08:04:57.216-07:00Fine story, this is actually really a good clue.
...Fine story, this is actually really a good clue. <br />The simple (and probably only) reason why Belhadj never could be an al-Qaida member is, that he was imprisoned when the LIFG joined the network in November 2007.<br /><br />http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2007/11/libyan_islamic_fight.php<br /><br />But he had to leave Afghanistan after the US.-invasion in 2001 - and he was probably not there for holydays. CNN interviewed him about that two days ago:<br /><br />http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/09/02/libya.belhaj.profile/index.html?hpt=hp_c2<br /><br />I do completely agree about the parallels to the Kosovo war, that's a good point. But my feeling is, that the influence of the islamist is bigger than you expect. I think it's clear that they played the main role at the beginning of the armed uprising and I think they care not to loose control since that. Is there any military commander within the rebels forces who was not in the LIFG before? I don't know, but I think not. Fatah Younis was not, but that was most probably the reason, why he had to disapear. At least if we trust his fellow officers:<br /><br />http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=644296&vId=2597554&cId=Top%20Stories<br /><br />I think the NTC has no power at all without the former LIFG fighters. And these guys know of course, that their western allies and parts of the NTC wants to sideline them one day, so they are surely prepared. I think already the killing of Fatah Younis war a part of these preparations.<br />I don't know who finally will be the others usefull idiots - The LIFG or the NATO? Both sides probably think they are smart enough to win the game. The loosers are in any case the people of Libya.Peet73https://www.blogger.com/profile/18380551847626151514noreply@blogger.com