tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post1179810116242883856..comments2024-03-18T22:03:28.458-07:00Comments on Monitor on Massacre Marketing: Early Special Forces Operations in LibyaCaustic Logichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-27052973608145141802012-02-22T03:44:35.293-08:002012-02-22T03:44:35.293-08:00http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/victory+what+pri...http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/victory+what+price/6178774/story.html<br /><br />A victory, but at what price?<br /><br /><br />http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Learning+about+Libya/6188362/story.html<br /><br />I do feel ashamed we helped to kill civilians, took a side in this internal conflict and were responsible for the death of Moammar Gadhafi directly or indirectly. We fuelled this conflict by supplying the rebels and allowing rebel supplies to get through when there was an embargo. Also, we manipulated a UN resolution to our selfish interests of regime change in Libya.hurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-30129321633594793362012-02-22T01:04:55.457-08:002012-02-22T01:04:55.457-08:00What about HMS Bangor, which according to this vid...What about HMS Bangor, which <a href="http://www.bfbs.com/news/uk/homecoming-minehunter-hms-bangor-53753.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter" rel="nofollow">according to this video</a> arrive back at (nuclear) Faslane in Scotland on 25 November 2011. <br /><i>Around 35 men and women spent 120 days at sea in the Mediterranean clearing mines off Libya as the battle against Gaddafi's regime raged.<br /><br />The Sandown-class ship found and destroyed a 2,400lb (1,089kg) mine and a torpedo as it scoured the seabed off the Libyan port of Tobruk.<br /><br />Lieutenant Commander Neil Marriott said: "To find two pieces of ordnance and destroy them safely was a great result for my ship's company. We were hunting for mines from June, working from port to port, and a success like that meant shipping into Libya is that much safer."<br /><br /></i><br />And who had laid the mines? Not good productivity, one mine and one torpedo (WW2 remains??) in 4 months of "operations". Or was there some other purpose??felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-81551915273387211442012-02-21T14:07:51.538-08:002012-02-21T14:07:51.538-08:00the vid showing the canadians let a rebel boat ful...the vid showing the canadians let a rebel boat full with weapons from benghazi to misrata pass freely has suddenly become private<br /><br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbIslLpRais&feature=player_detailpage · الناتو يتعاون مع العصابات المسلحة لتهريب الأسلحة إلى مصراتةhurriyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-89643301665761124072012-02-20T21:23:26.019-08:002012-02-20T21:23:26.019-08:00Stan comments on Facebook on the Ottawa Citizen a...Stan comments on Facebook on the Ottawa Citizen article:<br /><a href="http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/rules+engagement/6176584/story.html" rel="nofollow">The rules of engagement</a> <br /><br /><em>What the article doesn't say is that British tactical commanders in a tactical a tactical command centre on a British warship off the coast was providing tactical instructions and advice by radio to the rebel rats, and directing rebel ground operations in Libya. This was revealed at the time by al-Jazeera, in a rare moment of candour.</em><br /><br />The reference to British war ships reminds me of an extremely important and totally overlooked chapter. <strong>British warships were in Benghazi harbor on August 24, 2011.</strong> At the same time a group of British SAS was openly acknowledged to be operating in Libya, ostensibly to help in "evacuating British civilians and oil workers".<br /><br />I never had any doubts about the real mission of the special forces operating in Benghazi on February 23th; to set up the NTC puppet government: <em>"You are Prime Minister, you are Oil Minister you are Finance Minister and you (al-Qaeda) shut up and stay out of sight."</em><br /><br />I made some quick searches for <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=British+warship+Benghazi" rel="nofollow">British warship Benghazi</a>. Here are some results.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.spacewar.com/reports/British_warship_ferries_Benghazi_evacuees_to_Malta_999.html" rel="nofollow">British warship ferries Benghazi evacuees to Malta</a><br />AFP (Valletta), Feb 26, 2011<br /><br />One of theships was the frigate HMS <em>Cumberland</em>. Searching for <a href="https://www.google.com/search?ix=seb&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Cumberland+Benghazi" rel="nofollow">Cumberland Benghazi</a> gives even more results:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/MilitaryOperations/HmsCumberlandEnRouteToMaltaFromLibya.htm" rel="nofollow">HMS Cumberland en route to Malta from Libya</a><br />25 Feb 2011<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFjDVbGO2rM" rel="nofollow">HMS Cumberland in Benghazi, Libya</a><br />Uploaded by defenceheadquarters on Feb 25, 2011<br />(<a href="http://www.mayomo.com/95527-british-ship-hms-cumberland-rescues-foreign-nationals-from-benghazi-libya" rel="nofollow">Same video</a> uploaded February 24th)<br /><br />Notice the Royal Marine commandos in green beret <a href="http://michaelgraae.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Libya/G0000.fhR3MUyQPA/I0000l6P3Trl4iG4" rel="nofollow">disembarking</a> at 1:07 with 50kg backpacks. Planning a long stay?<br /><br />This <a href="http://convenientflags.blogspot.com/2011/02/hms-cumberlandlands-sas-sbs-at-benghazi.html" rel="nofollow">blog post</a> speculates they may have "fanned south into the country's huge desert."<br /><br />Other SAS units arrived by Hercules transport planes:<br /><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361008/Libya-protests-SAS-Blades-rescue-150-terrified-Britons-desert-nightmare.html" rel="nofollow">SAS 'Blades' rescue 150:</a> Crack team of commandos snatch terrified Britons from desert nightmare in war-torn Libya<br />Mail Online, 27th February 2011<br /><br />Look at the photographs. Do you see any SAS members <em>returning</em> from this daring rescue mission? I guess they would have been given a heroes welcome!<br /><br />***<br /><br />Here is an important collection of 20 photographs from Eastern Libya from around February 20th to 23rd, with <a href="http://michaelgraae.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Libya/G0000.fhR3MUyQPA/I0000gVkaSejJnnQ" rel="nofollow">Shahat Barracks</a>, La Abraq Airport ("Lubrique"), <a href="http://michaelgraae.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Libya/G0000.fhR3MUyQPA/I0000DIb7msPVDJM" rel="nofollow">burnt barracks</a> in Benghazi:<br /><a href="http://michaelgraae.photoshelter.com/gallery/Libya/G0000.fhR3MUyQPA" rel="nofollow">Michael Graae Photography</a>Petri Krohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630751579069253718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-79824999111282323062012-02-18T23:33:22.280-08:002012-02-18T23:33:22.280-08:00Here is another revelation article from today, by ...Here is another revelation article from today, by David Pugliese of the <em>Ottawa Citizen</em> in Canada:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Libya+Mission+Year+Later+rules+engagement/6176389/story.html" rel="nofollow">The Libya Mission One Year Later: The rules of engagement</a>Petri Krohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630751579069253718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091580307813686433.post-5289360884488071132012-02-18T12:10:06.406-08:002012-02-18T12:10:06.406-08:00C.I.A. Agents in Libya Aid Airstrikes and Meet Reb...<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/world/africa/31intel.html?partner=rss&emc=rss" rel="nofollow"><b>C.I.A. Agents in Libya Aid Airstrikes and Meet Rebels</b></a> New York Times,Mark Mazzetti & Eric Schmitt, 30 March 2011. UK MoD tight lipped...<br /><br />As for those secret flights to relieve workers at the odd one or two oil wells in Libya - just look at the <a href="http://www.mudvillegazette.com/assets_c/2011/03/oiiiiil-1507.html" rel="nofollow">map of oil and gas installations in Libya...</a> from <a href="http://www.mudvillegazette.com/2011_03.html" rel="nofollow">this fascinating blog</a> : Check the gloss on the linked McClatchy story <i>"The initials "CIA" do not appear in [it]"</i> about <b>Khalifa Hifter</b> <i>"Interesting he could make it from suburban Virginia to Libya at that time, but by the 14th of March he was there, and being described as a "top rebel commander" in news accounts shortly thereafter. He got there just in time, too - just days before the UN authorized establishment of a "no fly" zone.<br /><br />Regardless, the rebels still need an army to defect before someone can command it.</i>"felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.com